Market Talk / May 28 - June 3

vectorman said:

I think it is a given that Iran's nuclear enrichment program will proceed. I don't believe they will be attacked until U.S. troops are removed from the region. And, at least in theory, U.S. troops won't be removed from the region until 'democracy' rules. Leaving the region before 'democracy' is firmly established would be a tacit admission of failure.
 
James48843 said:
Wow.

That's about all I can say today.

For the "I" fund, dollar is tanking once again, and nearly all foreign markets posted strong or very strong gains overnight. Looks like the "I" fund will be up over 1% today.

"S" fund leads the recovery off the recent dips, and it looks like it is going to have a very nice day as well, as is the "C" fund, as both small and large caps are posting good size gains at the open today.

Thank goodness I am fully invested today- because it's going to be a nice, nice Friday.


Wow, I just noticed the F fund.

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/intchart/frames/frames.asp?symb=AGG
 
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Pilgrim said:
Consensus estimate is for 165,000. The sweet spot is usually a narrow range (consensus plus or minus a small number); not so low as to foreshadow a slowdown in earnings; not so high as to spook the Fed. The market may see 122,000 negatively if it is focused on earnings and the economy; positively if it is obsessed with the Fed. I have given up trying to predict what seems to be "mob" psychology.

If 122,000 is right, what do you think it will mean??

The battle for the hearts of minds of investors (speculators?) continues:
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By Mark Cotton, MarketWatch
Last Update: 10:35 AM ET Jun 2, 2006

U.S stocks traded mixed Friday after a weak jobs report stirred hopes the Federal Reserve may stop raising interest rates sooner rather than later, but also raised concern corporate profits may suffer because of a slowing economy.

"The fact that people think that this number will slow the Fed is one thing, but it's also a tell-tale sign that we're facing tougher times going forward," said James Park, managing director at Rodman & Renshaw. "The reality is that the economy is slowing down and people have fewer dollars in their pocket."

For Art Hogan, chief market strategist at Jefferies & Co, the "Goldilocks scenario would have been between 125,000 and 160,000 jobs created." Such numbers would have confirmed the economy continuing to grow at a steady pace.

In another sign that the economy may be slowing, new orders for U.S.-made factory goods fell 1.8% in April, led by a decline in demand for construction and mining machinery and aircraft parts, the Commerce Department reported. It was the largest decline in factory orders in four months and follows a revised 4.0% gain in March.
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So now what? When is the next market mover scheduled?
 
Wow, Tekno rarely moves that fast nor all in one fund. I'll have to do some research to see if I agree. I just went all G but Tekno does his research...
 
FundSurfer said:
Wow, Tekno rarely moves that fast nor all in one fund. I'll have to do some research to see if I agree. I just went all G but Tekno does his research...

Sitting all G fund and growing numb at lost gains, but today is likely to be a huge dollar drop and very big for I-fund. Do you really want to jump in after a really big day?
 
Wimpy said:
AUTHORITY GRANTED. William McLucas, the Securities & Exchange Commission's former enforcement chief.... added: "It could be that you have a bunch of books and records out there that no one knows about."
[URL="http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/may2006/nf20060523_2210.htm?campaign_id=rss_daily"]http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/may2006/nf20060523_2210.htm?campaign_id=rss_daily [/URL]

In the last paragraph - (my emphasis) :These obligations include keeping accurate "books, records, and accounts" and maintaining "a system of internal accounting controls sufficient" to ensure the propriety of financial transactions and the preparation of financial statements in compliance with "generally accepted accounting principles."

It appears that anything that has historically been `generally accepted' in any facet of our lives is now no longer considered relevant. There have always been managers, owners, CEO's who sidestepped to their personal benefit - Will this Negroponte be better able in his position to keep a sharp eye on those who have Double Books and to search, find, & keep a vigil over those accounts that are hidden from the stockholders? Will there be moles in every dept, bugs in every lapel pin, telephone, light switch???
 
The U.S. jobs report just released showed 75,000 jobs were created in May.
67 economists in a Reuters poll last week said there should be around 175,000 new jobs.
CONCLUSION: Reuters economists are out of touch and disconnected with reality.
Makes you wonder how many other area's thier judgement is out of calibration. :notrust:
 
Big day for bonds. With rates falling it's a little surprising stocks are off today. Probably just some profit taking and working off the overbought condition.
 
Pilgrim said:
... but today is likely to be a huge dollar drop and very big for I-fund. Do you really want to jump in after a really big day?

I decided to wait. You never know what the weekend will bring. I think we could have more Iran fireworks any day that sends international stocks on a tear one way or the other. I think I see what Tekno is looking at in terms of dollar turn back around, but we could get a bounce on Monday. If I'm going to get into I-fund...still undecided...I'd want to wait till after a potiential bounce following a big move day.
 
FundSurfer said:
I decided to wait. You never know what the weekend will bring. I think we could have more Iran fireworks any day that sends international stocks on a tear one way or the other.


With Bush's ratings in the dumpster at just 29%, I highly doubt we are in for any Iran action any time soon. They are hurting enough with all the press Iraq has brought. The American people would not put up with an Iranian adventure now, regardless of the validity of the need or not.

Have to wait until after at least november before anything could even be considered, and I have a feeling November will be a transition for at least one, if not both houses of congress.
 
You give the American voter too much credit. The religious RT wing put him in office and if the spin doctors have it their way it will happen again.
 
Fireworks in the stock market can be created by someone saying something stupid. Happens all the time. Fireworks does not necessarily mean dropped bombs.
 
vectorman said:
Hey Wimpy, should be a good time for some of that M3 money, so Iran can't have the pleasure of jabbing the U.S. markets.

Yeah, we'll put the gun to our own heads and pull the trigger before they do. :)
 
Not So Dynamic Duo

Peter Schiff


In today's style over substance economy, the job of Treasury Secretary has devolved into a pitch man for the government's economic disinformation campaign. To qualify, an aspiring Secretary must have the credibility and rhetorical skill to simultaneously instill enough confidence in America's creditors for them to keep lending, and in American consumers, to encourage them to keep borrowing and spending. It should be obvious to all that the very idea that the U.S. economy needs a spokesman indicates just how weak it really is. If our economy really were sound, it would speak for itself. It would not need a professional promoter to talk it up.

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_05/schiff060106.html
 
The JOB NUMBERS and the BULL / BEAR debate continues. Some articles on the subject. Some Bullish and some Bearish; you must decided!

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/

Closed out all long postions on Friday. On the sidelines for now. I'm waiting to go long again. It was not a positive trade for me. However, I'm a conservative investor. I'm like a little mouse eating away and the edges of a big piece of cheese in a BIG TRAP. I don't want to stick my head to far in the trap. I'll stay around the edges and nibble and nibble and nibble until I get my fill. Seven to Ten percent per year is my goal. I'm pretty close to retirement so I only go 100% long on extremly oversold conditions. When conditions are netural or overbought I wait!

Good Investing / Trading !



Weak jobs may mean Fed brakes -- for slow economy
By Emily Chasan
15 minutes ago

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Friday's anemic jobs report shows why investors should be careful what they wish for.

Sometimes they just might get it.

For months, stock investors have been betting that the U.S. equity market will take off once the Federal Reserve stops raising interest rates. That has driven many market players to take the view that any sign of weakness in the economy is good news for stocks because borrowing costs will ease, helping corporate bottom lines.

Hardly surprising then that stock index futures initially bolted higher Friday morning when the U.S. Labor Department reported that only 75,000 jobs were added to U.S. nonfarm payrolls in May -- or 100,000 jobs short of what Wall Street had forecast.

There's just one problem.

Weaker job growth may mean a weaker business environment and could spell trouble ahead for corporate profits. If the economy's growth is slowing, investors may have been betting in the wrong direction.

"The anticipation is that the Fed is going to be stepping aside in June, and the equity market's kneejerk reaction is that the Fed stepping aside is a good thing," said Paul Nolte, director of investments at Hinsdale Associates in Hinsdale, Illinois.

"Unfortunately, the reason the Fed may step aside is because growth is slowing, which will eventually hit earnings," he said.

In fact, earnings growth is expected to slow sharply this quarter. Earnings of companies in the Standard & Poor's 500 index (^SPX - news) are expected to grow just 7.2 percent in the second quarter, down from growth of more than 14 percent in the first quarter, according to Reuters Estimates.

What's more, expectations for second-quarter profit growth

have been diminishing in recent weeks after peaking at 7.7 percent in early May. That's not the best of signs.

ABOUT FACE!

On Friday, it didn't take long for stock investors to correct their take on the jobs data.

Stocks fell in less than 30 minutes after the opening bell, with market participants citing the weak jobs report as the main culprit.

That marked a 180-degree turn from the moments after the government reported that U.S. job growth in May was its slowest since October, in the aftermath of the hurricanes.

"Disappointing jobs growth in April and May indicate the economy is slowing more than Wall Street analysts and Federal Reserve policymakers have anticipated," said Peter Morici, a professor at the University of Maryland School of Business.

"The slowdown in the housing market and higher gas prices have dampened auto and other retail sales, and the jobs data indicate the economy is headed for much slower growth and perhaps a downturn," added Morici, who formerly was a chief economist at the U.S. International Trade Commission.

Despite the weak jobs growth picture, the U.S. unemployment rate slipped to a five-year low of 4.6 percent in May, the Labor Department said.

The drop in the monthly jobless rate followed a report on Thursday showing that planned layoffs fell 10 percent in May to the lowest level in 5-1/2 years, according to Challenger, Gray & Christmas Inc., an employment consulting firm.

But a low unemployment rate doesn't mean an economic slowdown is not coming.

"Whenever the economy makes the transition from faster to slower growth, there is a brief period of confusion about what's really going on," said Bernard Baumohl, executive director of the Economic Outlook Group in Princeton Junction, New Jersey. "We'll get simultaneous reports showing economic activity to be fairly robust ... as well as evidence of sluggish growth ..."

"But today's weak employment report represents one of the more concrete signs that we are about to enter a sustained economic slowdown in the second half," Baumohl added.
 
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Looks like the end of the week, and the thread.
Will be starting a new one for next week.
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Regards, and be careful!............Spaf​
 
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