Market Talk / February 25th - March 3rd

Explaining the huge drop around 2pm yesterday

http://www.cnbc.com/id/17369561

NYSE Trading Delays Linked to Messaging System

Trading delays during Tuesday's late-afternoon selloff resulted from problems with the New York Stock Exchange's messaging system, not a failure of the new hybrid trading system, according to CNBC's Bob Pisani and Melissa Lee.
"It was a surge in volumes in orders as well as messaging that caused some technical difficulties here at the exchange,” Lee said.
 
Jim Rogers is using the bounce to lighten up. Expects "real" correction (5%, 10%, or more) just because it's overdue.
 
Wow. I wasn't a daily visitor to Maddog's thread. I am now. Great stuff. Thanks for the all the hard work.
Hey Wheels, I thought you said that kind of info wasn't that valuable. He has more of the same of what Spaf has been posting (not a knock MD, been an occasional viewer of your thread for a while.) I think it is a great indication of sentiment.
 
Ok-

"C" closed only fractionally higher than yesterday, and "S" actually closed lower than yesterday's ending.

Definately "dead cat" today.

I think that tells us more downside ahead.
 
Ok-

"C" closed only fractionally higher than yesterday, and "S" actually closed lower than yesterday's ending.

Definately "dead cat" today.

I think that tells us more downside ahead.

If Shanghai drops tonight, we'll be in big trouble. I do believe the trend from now on will be down until the Fed start cutting rates. If tomorrow's ISM falls below 50 again, following the PMI, the Feds might start hinting at a rate cut. Or they might wait until we get 0% or negative GDP.
 
The Kingdom of TSP
Daily Edition
February 28, 2007 Closing

Yak, Le Charts, Doodles, Tea Leaves & The Tally Can

Kingdom Yak:
Pro-Yak....................................Socks bounce in a slow choppy recovery!

Con-Yak...................................Lube up 5% for February.

Jester-Yak................................Leaders go 90% bullish!

Le Charts
Notice the Bollinger bands!
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Charts courtesy of www.stockcharts.com

Doodles:
Stops.......................................Alert (-1%)....Trail (-2%)
.....SPX........1406.82 +7.78.........XXXX.............XXXX

Dollar........................................83.54 -0.06 for the day.

Lube (NYMEX) Closed at...............61.75 +0.25 for the day.
Oil Markers.................................<60= ok, 60-65= worry, >65= panic.

Tea Leaves:
Yakndoodles................................Green.

Tally Can
Top 10 last 12 mo.........................1.0 ......0.0 ......1.8 .....1.3 .....6.0
TSP Funds...................................G-fund, F-fund, C-fund, S-fund, I-fund.
 
Hey Wheels, I thought you said that kind of info wasn't that valuable. He has more of the same of what Spaf has been posting (not a knock MD, been an occasional viewer of your thread for a while.) I think it is a great indication of sentiment.

Did you see my last PM? I thought that Spaf was updating the entire top ten list, not just the allocations. I conceded the point. Done correctly, I think this info has value.
 
Well Tom u got the index right, and the time, but the reasons are much different than then....we have a lot of reasons today for a more severe correction than then, the reasons are endless.....and the reaction will be more pronounced.....yesterdays drop was a significant event.....but I do expect a rebound to comeback sooner because of the future economics, which I would be will to say is going to be US economics driven...OS economics are just going to have to take a back seat for a while....even though they will still be around.....the world economics could just be going down for another 60 years or so according to Fibronnacci theory.....we sure could use an advance in energy technology that is economical right now......



From Stratfor:

In March, state-run Japan Oil, Gas and Metals National Corp. (JOGMEC) will begin test production of natural gas from methyl hydrates -- natural gas trapped in frozen water -- extracted from Canadian permafrost. In conjunction with Canada's natural resources ministry, JOGMEC drilled a test well Feb. 23 in Canada's Arctic Circle permafrost. If Japan, or anyone else, can develop a successful method of extracting methyl hydrates, even the conservative estimates predict a tenfold increase in global natural gas supplies. This would completely restructure the energy industry worldwide.

Reserves of traditional natural gas that can be extracted with current technology are predicted to last about 60 years at current consumption levels. Though these reserve estimates total about 370 trillion cubic meters (tcm), rough estimates of methyl hydrate deposits range from 2,800 tcm to 8.5 million tcm, according to the U.S. Geological Survey. The Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution estimates that the United States alone has as much as 8,500 tcm. If a reliable technology can be found to harvest natural gas hydrates, it could hugely increase world reserves.

Methyl hydrate is natural gas trapped in a solid matrix of frozen water. Once released, it becomes just like normal natural gas. Methyl hydrate is found in and under permafrost, and on the ocean floor at depths greater than about 1,600 feet. An increase in temperature or a decrease in pressure can trigger the release of the methyl hydrate as natural gas. The most recoverable deposits of methyl hydrate are found in coarse, porous sandstone deposits, which primarily occur on land in permafrost conditions in the Arctic. Deep-sea deposits are more liberally distributed around the globe, but are characteristically made up of tightly packed grains of silt, which make for thinly distributed deposits that are harder to recover.

These characteristics make extracting methyl hydrate extraordinarily difficult. If ocean-floor deposits are disturbed by poorly implemented extraction attempts, or by earthquakes, it can cause the sea to "boil" as natural gas bubbles up from the bottom. The resultant high waves and lowered water density can sink both ships and drilling platforms.

Three methods are being explored for releasing natural gas from its methyl hydrate form. The first is to heat the hydrate reservoir with hot water or steam to initiate vaporization. This method, however, often uses more energy than it actually recovers. The second is to inject an inhibitor -- like methanol or glycol -- that reduces the hydrate stability, but this requires that a relatively large amount of inhibitor be applied across a large area, and is also cost-ineffective. The final method, the one being tried by the Japanese, is to reduce the pressure, allowing the hydrate to vaporize in the drill well, which then allows the harvesting of natural gas by more conventional means.

The development of methyl hydrate deposits is not a short-term goal. Not only does a reliable technology need to be implemented, but a reasonable infrastructure must also be built. Natural gas is difficult to store and ship, so natural gas producers must build extensive pipelines and storage facilities if they are serious about exploiting hydrates. In places like the North Slope of Alaska, where there are established pipelines and roads, methyl hydrate extraction could develop relatively rapidly. For the frozen wastelands of Siberia or the floor of the ocean, it would be a different story.

If any of these methods could be made to work on a wide scale, it would revolutionize the world energy market, as it would mean the near-global availability of abundant natural gas, which could potentially turn major natural gas importing states such as the United States or the United Kingdom into net exporters.
 
Briefing.com:
08:00 am : S&P futures vs fair value: -12.8. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: -19.0. Early indications continue to deteriorate, suggesting yesterday's modest rebound will be met with another day of aggressive selling. In fact, recognition that Wednesday's recovery effort wasn't all that convincing when measured against such a meltdown on Tuesday creates an added sense of uneasiness.
With Tuesday's sell-off shifting the balance of sentiment and focus to everything negative, the implications that today’s influential economic data can have on Fed policy and the market's mentality on consumer spending activity are also weighing on sentiment. The upcoming personal income and spending report (8:30 ET) will be watched most closely since it contains the core-PCE deflator -- the Fed's favored inflation measure.
 
BRIEFING.COM] S&P futures vs fair value: -16.6. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: -28.5. Futures trade continues to languish well below fair value as the yen strengthening considerably within the last 45 minutes continues to fuel fears tied to the unwinding of carry-trades. Meanwhile, January personal income rose 1.0% (consensus 0.3%) while personal spending rose 0.5% (consensus 0.4%). The more closely watched core-PCE rose 0.3% to leave the year-over-year rate at 2.3%. That is above the Fed's comfort zone of 1.0% to 2.0% and raises added concern due to its potential to swing policy expectations. Initial claims unexpectedly rose 7K to 338K (consensus 325K).
 
With the econ. numbers that came out this morning, U.S. futures keep falling. I am hearing on Bloomberg TV, that there is great liquidity in the markets. Speculation on my part is that we might get his early-on to the downside, thus creating a buying opportunity for mutual funds, and institutions. It is my understanding that the 1st day of each month usually is a buying opportunity for the "Big Guys". Provided all of this is true, we could stabilize during the trading day. I already placed my IFT today to go 100% G at COB. If inflows of new money were to come into the market today, this buffer the downside and would lessen my losses. I will appreciate other views.
 
With the econ. numbers that came out this morning, U.S. futures keep falling. I am hearing on Bloomberg TV, that there is great liquidity in the markets. Speculation on my part is that we might get his early-on to the downside, thus creating a buying opportunity for mutual funds, and institutions. It is my understanding that the 1st day of each month usually is a buying opportunity for the "Big Guys". Provided all of this is true, we could stabilize during the trading day. I already placed my IFT today to go 100% G at COB. If inflows of new money were to come into the market today, this buffer the downside and would lessen my losses. I will appreciate other views.

I agree. I think were going way down this morning (100 pts) then by closing were either flat or up a little. I'm thinking today wil be a +FV in the I fund. I'm also moving to the G today.
 
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