Griffin Account Talk

Given that the USM markets went down today, as did the I fund, and we lost some ground in F today (sorry Nnut)....what's in the wind for tomorrow, more decline or a bounce?

Asian markets are slightly down right now..sounds like the beginnings of trouble except that we have Productivity data coming out tomorrow (and who knows - it might be good)..any thoughts?

FS
 
Given that the USM markets went down today, as did the I fund, and we lost some ground in F today (sorry Nnut)....what's in the wind for tomorrow, more decline or a bounce?

Asian markets are slightly down right now..sounds like the beginnings of trouble except that we have Productivity data coming out tomorrow (and who knows - it might be good)..any thoughts?

FS

Sorry I didn't get back yesterday, not that it would have mattered.

I am still considering buying today's dip. But I want to see the action before I make that call. There are three possibilities, we get a 1-2% consolidation and were into the next rally. This is the most likely scenario given the unbelieveable strength of this market. However, the RSI, MAC-D and Slo Sto are all set to take a dive so we could see todays drop extend into a 5-6% correction over the next couple of days. 5-6% fits the channels and would be inline with what we got back in February. There is also the very real possibility that we get a slight rally from there before decending another 5-6% to the bottom of the much larger multi-year channel. The problem with the big drops, is that the incentive to buy in at each stage to catch the bounce, keeps sucking you down. Go back to the pullback we had last May. Almost everybody (and I can not think of an exception) bought into that pullback at some point for a minor to major losses. The 5.0% thing, China and the weaker six months are all very valid reasons to suspect that this may extend beyond just the next dip. If I see anything that looks like an uncontrolled freefall, I will probably give it another day before considering, but a controlled step down might be the ticket.
 
Darn...productivity came out the wrong way...not that I'm surprised..I may take a chance on I Fund..I'll be watching the action...

Thanks,

FS
 
There are three possibilities...

Good conceptual summary of where we're likely going from here. I hope you don't mind that I quoted you in my Account Talk. Like you, I'm likely going to buy the dip today unless the bottom falls out before noon.
 
Good conceptual summary of where we're likely going from here. I hope you don't mind that I quoted you in my Account Talk. Like you, I'm likely going to buy the dip today unless the bottom falls out before noon.

No problem, I decided to buy the dip and moved 100% into the S

The EU seems to be stablizing so I decided to move in.

I expect Japan to follow suit tomorrow and the dollar seems to be finding support, so I see no reason to deal with the I fund, since the FV situation tends to be more aggravating then it's worth.
 
The EU seems to be stablizing so I decided to move in.

I don't like the way that EU smart money (their last trading hour) sold off. This might get real ugly. If the US takes the EU's lead and decides that more downside is in the future, let's hope it happens in the next hour, so we have time to step down to the next level of support before we all buy in tonight. At least that way we might catch some kind of dead cat bounce tomorrow before it falls again.

I suspect I am going the way of the ebbtracker and punching out tomorrow to lick my wounds in the safety of the G.
 
:nuts: The good news is...I'm finally ahead of the C-fund :nuts:

I don't mind lagging the S and I since there hasn't been a pullback in a year, but being behind the C has been hard to swallow.
 
The trade deficit report came in 3.9B better then expected, good news for us looking for a bounce today. The dip buyers are starting to step up already as the EU and futures are headed for a turn around. MSNBC was all bears this morning, as are the headlines.

What does the market have to fear? A rate hike to 5.25%.....that's still cheap money.

The move in the bond market has reinvigorated the inverted yield curve discussions. Typically an economic slowdown or recession occurrs within 3-5 quarters of the initial inversion (which was December 05). So we are now wrapping up the 6th quarter since the initial inversion - and we have evidence that we did indeed see some slowdown (although it was fairly minimal) and may see some slow growth in the quarters ahead.

So the question to go up or down (over the next couple of weeks), boils down to how much fed rate cut/high growth speculation is built into the current prices. There is plenty of reason to still be bullish, so I am still skeptical of a pullback although market momentum is to the downside. If it does not reverse early into the trading day (which appears to be happening at this moment), the bears may get another victory.

When you have taken a beating, it's hard to walk away from the table, but what you lost over the last couple of days is gone and when you get it back has everything to do with the future and nothing to do with yesterday. Keep that in mind as you make decisions moving forward - if your in, ask yourself: if you were out, would you buy in? that's a pretty good indicator of what you should be doing.

Any further down side will scare away the dip buyers simply because we will be approaching the line where we go from correction to pullback - which is no longer a dip.
 
The trade deficit report came in 3.9B better then expected, good news for us looking for a bounce today. The dip buyers are starting to step up already as the EU and futures are headed for a turn around. MSNBC was all bears this morning, as are the headlines.

What does the market have to fear? A rate hike to 5.25%.....that's still cheap money.

The move in the bond market has reinvigorated the inverted yield curve discussions. Typically an economic slowdown or recession occurrs within 3-5 quarters of the initial inversion (which was December 05). So we are now wrapping up the 6th quarter since the initial inversion - and we have evidence that we did indeed see some slowdown (although it was fairly minimal) and may see some slow growth in the quarters ahead.

So the question to go up or down (over the next couple of weeks), boils down to how much fed rate cut/high growth speculation is built into the current prices. There is plenty of reason to still be bullish, so I am still skeptical of a pullback although market momentum is to the downside. If it does not reverse early into the trading day (which appears to be happening at this moment), the bears may get another victory.

When you have taken a beating, it's hard to walk away from the table, but what you lost over the last couple of days is gone and when you get it back has everything to do with the future and nothing to do with yesterday. Keep that in mind as you make decisions moving forward - if your in, ask yourself: if you were out, would you buy in? that's a pretty good indicator of what you should be doing.

Any further down side will scare away the dip buyers simply because we will be approaching the line where we go from correction to pullback - which is no longer a dip.

A rate increase would kill housing and the US markets. Not gonna happen. Still sticking to my rate decrease 1st quarter 08.
 
Keep that in mind as you make decisions moving forward - if your in, ask yourself: if you were out, would you buy in? that's a pretty good indicator of what you should be doing.

Any further down side will scare away the dip buyers simply because we will be approaching the line where we go from correction to pullback - which is no longer a dip.

Excellent advice Griffin....Thanks...:)

FS
 
Griffin:

Why 100% S today..

The way I'm looking at this : I Fund is due for a small pop (per Paladin and 12%) but inflation woes and rising interest rates look to pose a problem in the short term..

Good news is that their currencies are down against the dollar..

S and C look to be down today, PPI and CPI data is on the calendar as well as more discussion ffrom Uncle Ben, bond yields have the market jittery, and M&A's seem to be slowing...

Several TSP'ers see a retest of last Thursday on the horizon..

I'd appreciate your thoughts..

Thanks,

FS
 
I'm out of the office again today (this week actually), so my move yesterday and today were totally based on an expectation of catching a retest. So far it looks like I may have made a decent move. I am through with playing the FV game with the I-fund, unless I am relatively sure that the dollar is going to work in my favor.
 
Thanks for getting back to me..I reduced my exposure but left a small amount in I and S...Right now..the Asian markets are down...we need some good news for a rally...but the saber rattling with Iran may be just the thing to keep everyone jittery..

FS
 
I suspect the market is going to react favorable to today's reports and the dollar is going to have a very strong day, since it broke through some long term resistance yesterday (see chart). I moved from the S to the I fund today, expecting the dollar to retrace today's gains tomorrow. In addition, we may get a good setup on the I as it gives back last night's FV resulting in very little movement today. At this stage, I am tentiatively planning on moving back to the G as soon as we get close to the previous highs. I have said that I don't like the I-fund and I am avoiding it.... this is still true but today is panning out into one of those setups that is worth the risk.

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Yesterday did not quite pan out the way I wanted with the dollar. The OSMs are looking good so far today, but the Nikkei and FTSE are both getting near the top of their recent channels. The US markets have a way to go, but could cover that today. As I said in my last post, I am going to take up a defensive position now that we are approaching the top. The F is now really primed to cough up some returns. We haven't see these prices as a norm since '06 and when it moves, it should be worth it.
 
As it turned out the I-fund move worked out very well and so did the move to bonds which is where I am now sitting. As of yesterday I was a mere .70% behind what I ocnsider to be my benchmark: 50S/50I buy and hold strategy.

I now find myself sitting in bonds with the potential to gain ground if not surpass the benchmark this week. That has me tempted to move into stocks, but this market looks tired and I am more concerned with a steady run down of stocks, then missing the next surprise turn-around rally. Buying Big Red has been a very successful approach, however, I am giving it a rest and staying with bonds since there seems to be plenty of room for profits in the very near future. Not sure what I'll do if the yields drop down to 5.00 level, yet. If I see a sharp decline in stocks I will probably buy the dip again, but the current ill-wind strikes me more like the calm before the storm then an opportunity.
 
The UK had a rough close as it gets ready for tomorrow's M4 reports and BoE minutes (the UK's version of the FOMC). If the rest of the EU follows the UK's lead, tomorrow could be very tough for the I-fund.
 
If I see a sharp decline in stocks I will probably buy the dip again, but the current ill-wind strikes me more like the calm before the storm then an opportunity.
Obviously the opportunity to jump on this did not become apparant until after the deadline...but I am not going to enter my IFT just yet.

Take a look at this chart and look at the pattern that is developing compared to the period starting 2006. If a similar situation manifests, we may see another solid red day and some floundering as the market struggles at the 50 day moving average seraching for support. In such a situation, the looming possibility of a pullback and the end of the second quarter may weigh on the dip buyers, and we may not get the nice next day recovery that we are becoming accustomed too. I will probably buy the dip just because it's been successful so far, however, I will do so with the understanding that if the market moves lower, I will eat the loss and bail back to safety.

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Read this from Yahoo's Market Summary:

4:25 pm : The stock market struggled today, but not the entire day as a blowout earnings report from Morgan Stanley (MS 87.32, -0.48), word from Home Depot (HD 40.03, +1.76) that it is increasing its stock buyback authorization by a massive $22.5 billion, and a drop in oil prices all helped to keep selling efforts in check during the morning session.
The bulls, however, never quite stepped up to the plate with any conviction; and the afternoon trade played out in a decidedly bearish fashion when bids all but disappeared around 1:00 ET.

A backup in the 10-year note yield from 5.09% to 5.14% will garner much of the blame for the reversal of fortune, but that is a dubious excuse when taking into account that the drop in yield last week from 5.32% to 5.17% was viewed as a rallying point.

So, with the yield still below its best level from last week, it doesn't make a great deal of sense that the bump to 5.14% would cause such a negative reaction today.

What did then, you ask? There isn't a definitive answer, but a plausible explanation relates to reports that Bear Stearns may be shutting two mortgage hedge funds due to losses suffered in the wake of the subprime fallout.

A whiff of this possibility sparked spillover concerns that hit the broader market in a sell-first-ask-questions-later move that manifested itself in vivid form in the financial sector (-1.7%) which sold off in the afternoon trade. Incidentally, the financial sector began to weaken noticeably around 1:00 ET and closed at its lows for the session.
The fact that selling accelerated in the final hour when bond yields held fairly steady validated the idea that something other than the backup in yield got the better of today's participants.

Overall, there just wasn't any sector leadership to save the market. All ten economic sectors ended lower with energy (-2.9%) leading the way.
The latter sector got clobbered after a weekly inventory report from the government showed a much larger than expected 6.90 million barrel build in crude stockpiles versus expectations for a slight draw of 50K barrels. July crude futures dropped $0.91 to $68.19 per barrel, which was a boon for the airline stocks today.DJ30 -146.00 NASDAQ -26.80 SP500 -20.86 NASDAQ Dec/Adv/Vol 2186/848/2.02 bln NYSE Dec/Adv/Vol 2550/749/1.54 bln
 
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