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Our monetary system is getting so close to changing drastically. When we have every world leader, including the U.S. President, talking about a "coordinated" financial response and financial reform, we really need to take it seriously. France, China, European Commission, and now Russia are all saying that we need to reform the world's financial system to reduce our reliance on the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency. You think the dollar's value is bad now? Wait until the day all the world decides to stop using it as a reserve currency. Combined with the super low rates we have now and we'll probably go even lower .... hyperinflation. We are in for one hell of a ride.
 
Our monetary system is getting so close to changing drastically. When we have every world leader, including the U.S. President, talking about a "coordinated" financial response and financial reform, we really need to take it seriously. France, China, European Commission, and now Russia are all saying that we need to reform the world's financial system to reduce our reliance on the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency. You think the dollar's value is bad now? Wait until the day all the world decides to stop using it as a reserve currency. Combined with the super low rates we have now and we'll probably go even lower .... hyperinflation. We are in for one hell of a ride.

Or the world currency will become the dollar.:D:D
 
Or the world currency will become the dollar.:D:D

It pretty much was that. That was decided on at the Bretton Woods conference in 1944, but the system collapsed in 1971 when the U.S. finally chopped off gold from being the backer of the dollar.

And if you don't want to take China seriously, they've been propping up the U.S. dollar by pegging their currency to ours. This is kind of known as Bretton Woods II.
 
It was a pain in the neck keeping track of all that gold, especially when the French insisted on receiving gold bars for the dollars they accumulated. The goldstandard also lead to gold hoarding and stealing, and curtailed its use for anything besides jewelery or currency.
 
Looks like the market won't decide where it wants to go until after November 15. That's when the leaders and financial organizations of the world meet in Washington, D.C.
 
From the White House Press Briefing on Monday:

Q Earlier today -- or looking towards next week with this G20 summit here at the White House -- or here in Washington, French President Sarkozy said he hoped that it would yield concrete decisions, swift and concrete decisions on global financial regulation. Is that a view the White House shares?

MS. PERINO: We'll see. We think that there's a lot of -- a lot to work through on the agenda, and our sherpas are all working and talking amongst each other to figure out what the agenda will be, the principles for reform. That was -- the purpose of this meeting as it was set out in the conversations the President had with all the leaders before he sent the invitations was to organize with them the agenda, first of all, starting with identifying the underlying causes of the problem. That is something that we all need to do so that we all understand the basis from which we want to work to improve it.

Secondly, reviewing progress to date, which has been considerable. In our country we've got a long way to go, but we're starting to get there. The credit markets are starting to thaw out, and that is exactly what we are trying to do to try to solve -- help solve the problem. And then we said that we would outline principles for reform.

Could there be concrete issues that could be agreed to? I don't know. I would refer you to my briefing a week from now, a prospective referral -- as we get closer. (Laughter.) We just need to get closer to the meeting to see what we're going to be able to work out.

Q But there does seem to be a bit of a difference. The White House and the administration has talked about principles for reform. It sounds like the French are pushing for something much more --

MS. PERINO: I think that in the -- I do think there's been a tendency in the media to try to draw distinctions and differences, even hostilities, between us and the French. That is not the case. We are working in a cooperative spirit, trying to find the path forward together, principles for reform.

Could there be areas where we might be able to agree and be able to move forward? Yes. But remember, this is not just a meeting between the French and the United States. We have invited the leaders of the G20, which means that we have emerging markets here. The President wanted them to have a say in how we move forward, and so their voice is going to be very important. The President is not going to invite them here and then ignore them. So we'll let you know as we get closer how that agenda is shaping up.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/11/20081103.html

So, it looks like we might get a better idea on Monday, November 10, what sort of agenda will be on the table for the G-20 meeting.
 
I'm going to start a thread in the lounge about a North American Union so we don't clog fabijo's thread...
 
September 29, 2008 - Ron Paul giving his reasons to be against the bailout bill in two minutes on the House floor:

 
Something about this just doesn't look right. :blink:

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Hmmm. I may have actually been onto something for once in my life. Not that what I said was anything impressive.
At least I can take baby steps.

September 17, 2008
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=180985&postcount=1502
It won't be long before Americans start begging for government intervention. These bailouts still don't mean much for the average American. We're being led to the slaughter. First, everyone will complain about how these bailouts are costing us tons of money, so people will vote anit-Republican. Next, we'll have a serious economic meltdown, where unemployment numbers are skyrocketing. Then Americans will beg their government to save them with "An Even Newer Deal."

Why would the research have been done just recently on how Americans feel about increasing Executive powers? It sounds like the egotistical elitists want to show us how manipulative we all are. Today, we're against increasing powers, but tomorrow we'll be begging for it.

Poll: Public opposes increased presidential power
http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?articleid=40966&dcn=todaysnews
 
That drop to 850 on the SPX was generated by the compressed hedge fund margin call selling - the same can happen now on the upside. These folks have an estimated $400 billion in cash earning less every day - what's the incentive to stay in cash besides fear. Intelligent investors act out of patience and courage, not panic. They'll be back into the market in a rush - and they'll pull me along for the ride.
 
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