Corn and Ethanol.

I wish them luck but I also wish they weren't using (couldn't use) tax money to do it. Either make it on your own or go home.
 
Ground broken on a new algae-to-ethanol pilot-size plant in Florida, capable of producing 100,000 gallons of ethanol a year from algae. This is a scale up from an earlier prototype plant. This is to test larger scale production figures. It is calculated to be able to produce roughly 6,000 gallons per acre per year, compared to 400 gallons per acre for corn ethanol. This is a mid-size pilot project test, done in part with a $ 25 million research and development grant from the Department of Energy (DoE).

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More:
http://www.algenol.com/alghome.htm
 
You buy more expensive cuts than I do, Jim. more power to ya. I buy grass-fed from Farmers Market when I'm feeling rich or health-concious anyway.
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alevin said:
Either I can't do basic math or the reporter can't. Math is math, 2=2, 2>1.

Original "assumption" per the article.....1/3 of 56 pound bushel (original "assumption") = 18.57 pounds (distillers's grain feed produced). Department of Ag is now saying only produces 17.5 pounds of distillers grain- a pound less than previously believed. and somehow that's an increase in feed produced? something wrong with this picture.
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Poor writing, I think. One metric ton of DDG replaces 1.22 tons of corn/soybean feed. That's the mulitplyer that should have been in the equation.

Irregardless of what the writer was trying to say, I think the message was supposed to be- hey, when you do ethanol, you get both fuel, AND food for animal feed.

And I think I'd eat a nice t-bone to see if that holds up.

Medium well, if you please.

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Good info on distillers's grain feed

Feeding Distillers’ Grains to Beef Cattle
Inclusion in Diets
The energy value of wet and dry distiller’s grains were estimated to be 110% and 95% that of corn grain, respectively. Optimum inclusion rate for enhanced gain and feed efficiency using wet distiller’s grains in feedlot diets is between 15% and 25% of the diet dry matter. Use of protein supplements containing rumen-degradable true protein sources (soybean meal, canola, etc.) is recommended over urea (limit to no more than 0.5% of diet dry matter). Because of lower energy than corn grain, inclusion rate for dry distillers’ grains in feedlot diets must not exceed 15% of the diet dry matter.
Distillers’ grains use is highly recommended when diets of beef cows, replacement heifers or calves require supplementation of energy or protein. However, because of its high phosphorus, and rumen-undegradable protein content, caution must be exercised to ensure that the calcium:phosphorus ratio of the diet does not fall below 2:1, or that sufficient degradable protein is supplied to optimize forage use.
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http://www.cattle.com/articles/title/Feeding+Distillers’+Grains+to+Beef+Cattle.aspx
 
James48843 said:
Feed value of ethanol by-products long underestimated

A new report from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) found that the animal feed produced by U.S. ethanol plants (known as distillers grains or DDGS) is replacing even more corn and soybean meal in livestock and poultry feed rations than previously thought.

According to the report by USDA’s Economic Research Service (ERS), “Findings demonstrate that, in aggregate (including major types of livestock/poultry), a metric ton of DDGS can replace, on average, 1.22 metric tons of feed consisting of corn and soybean meal in the United States.”

Every 56-pound bushel of corn processed by a dry mill ethanol plant generates 2.8 gallons of ethanol and approximately 17.5 pounds of animal feed. In essence, the new ERS report dispels the conventional assumption that every bushel of corn processed by an ethanol plant generates an amount of feed equivalent to just one-third of the original corn bushel. more:
http://southeastfarmpress.com/livestock/feed-value-ethanol-products-long-underestimated
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Either I can't do basic math or the reporter can't. Math is math, 2=2, 2>1.

Original "assumption" per the article.....1/3 of 56 pound bushel (original "assumption") = 18.57 pounds (distillers's grain feed produced). Department of Ag is now saying only produces 17.5 pounds of distillers grain- a pound less than previously believed. and somehow that's an increase in feed produced? something wrong with this picture.
 
Feed value of ethanol by-products long underestimated

A new report from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) found that the animal feed produced by U.S. ethanol plants (known as distillers grains or DDGS) is replacing even more corn and soybean meal in livestock and poultry feed rations than previously thought. The report’s findings have important implications for discussions regarding ethanol’s impact on feed grains availability, feed prices, land use effects, and the greenhouse gas (GHG) impacts of producing corn ethanol.

According to the report by USDA’s Economic Research Service (ERS), “Findings demonstrate that, in aggregate (including major types of livestock/poultry), a metric ton of DDGS can replace, on average, 1.22 metric tons of feed consisting of corn and soybean meal in the United States.”

Every 56-pound bushel of corn processed by a dry mill ethanol plant generates 2.8 gallons of ethanol and approximately 17.5 pounds of animal feed. In essence, the new ERS report dispels the conventional assumption that every bushel of corn processed by an ethanol plant generates an amount of feed equivalent to just one-third of the original corn bushel.
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more:
http://southeastfarmpress.com/livestock/feed-value-ethanol-products-long-underestimated
 
I'm feeling much better now.

Just got back from the meeting, paid up for another week, absolved. Normally I wait until Monday to start up again but it's such a nice day out there.

C'mon in, the water's fine.

 
Thanks you guys for being so understanding, I have a passion for corn.

If we lose it, it's not long before everything is gone.

It's not a canary, it's the coal mine.
 
Re: Corn and Ethanol and unicorns and acronyms

burrocrat said:
Sorry, I got a little off track there.

What I really meant to convey was:

Hot diggity I'm buying ADM on Monday and thank goodness for unicorn fart plants.

Where's PO when you need him?
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Yes, thank goodness for ADM, where would we be without genetically altered crops and patented, sterile seeds.

The unicorn byproduct generation initiative is probably well hidden somewhere under ARRA, TIP, Hoover Generation Act as amended or wherever. TIP is supposed to be about building power lines but has the usual clause about "other infrastructure as needed..."

Rumor has it the unicorns are no longer in Tooele. Further rumor is that the 15 GS-99s and 7 SES types administering the program are baffled. Word is a PFC on duty when they vanished will be attending a Summary Courts Martial.

Back to the subject of corn, yeah I love it too. Back in the day when picking it for $.55 per hour at the end of a long day I would buy a dozen from the last basket I picked. I can't guarantee I got it home within 30 minutes since I was hitch hiking but when Mom cooked it up it was the star of the meal. Only problem was with eight of us there were only seconds for half of us.

I proudly filled up my old vehicle with 10% ethanol fuel today and was privileged to only pay $3.25 per gallon.

Future references to UBGI and the other acronyms here likely belong in another thread. There probably is something out there about alternative energy sources. I didn't look.

PO
 
I'm with you about Corn BC, I used to grow my own Sweet Corn. There's nothing like freshly picked Sweet Corn, eat it within 30 minutes after picking and it's really sweet, after 30 minutes the sugars start turning to starch. Fresh Sweet Corn on the Cob used to be cheap when it was in season, buy it now and the price is way up there.:o
I wonder why?:suspicious:
This year is said to be a Bumper Crop the price is falling, I hope it does because Groceries are up big time. Might not help that we are selling so much corn to China.:nuts:
VIDEO:
[h=1]The 'corn factor' in rising food prices[/h][h=6]8:42 AM, Aug 23, 2011 | http://www.kare11.com/news/article/935306/391/The-corn-factor-in-rising-food-prices[/h]​
 
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