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CP, The extended debt you cite is, in my opinion, the cliff that awaits. I'm not sure if the economy will step too far, over, out, or too quickly - but it lurks.
I know several households where higher expense to live is causing great difficult. The few recent difficulities and collapses in banks and mortgages may be also be toes-over-the-side already. On the other hand, perhaps the markets will scale a mountain of near disaster.
In any case, in the words of Warren Buffet, "when the tide goes out, you know who's been skinning dipping."
Oh, yea, SB - n i c e Bear.
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Jeff
That NYMEX guy sounds like he'll make you a day late and a dollar short!What I just heard was about the dumbest thing ever. On CNBC they were interviewing a guy at the NYMEX, and he said something like "crude is going down because Gustav weakening combined with nat gas news was very bearish". HUH?? Are they really that stupid? I mean, WHEN (not if) Gustav regains hurricane strength (major in a few days) and moves straight into the gulf, is he saying that gas will then RISE AGAIN?? How idiotic!
Anyway, as BIRCHTREE always says, the market looks forward. Therefore today's pump on LAST quarters GDP is ridiculous. It's mostly from Exports and that will decrease with strengthening dollar. Consumer going forward next few quarters is strapped. Holiday season? Worst in years. Too bad for those companies whose ENTIRE YEAR is based on the holiday season. Ouch. Oh and maybe oil will be 150 again too boot.
The bear is looking in a mirror and sometimes likes to flirt with himself.
What I just heard was about the dumbest thing ever... he saying that gas will then RISE AGAIN?? How idiotic!
Everyone enjoy the weekend. I have a feeling we may see some fireworks next week. Employment report is key. I can't imagine it being very good given 400K+ initial claims EVERY WEEK! I still feel that oil has found a short term base and we will go back into the 120s at least Watch 1240-1260 S&P.
Updated Tracker COB 8/29/08
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2008 YTD Return: +8.95%
Today: +0.03%
Current Allocation: 100G
Tracker Rank: 3
Tentative Next Move: Wait for < 1240 to buy after 9/1/08
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Oil will be $150+ Sunday/Monday before the Hurricane hits. Imagine the damage to the rigs. Once it hits Oil may hit $175+ This market will drop 1000 points next week if it remains as strong and on this track. I am 100% G Fund but this could really be the final straw. Gas will be $5 or $6 per gallon and the reserves will need to be used. It is the "PERFECT STORM" and could takes years to recover.
Wow Braveheart, that is quite a statement! Honestly, I really don't know how much hurricanes damage the rigs and such. But what I have known for several days is that the consensus forecast track and intensity of this storm have not changed and I have no idea why some of those traders have been dragging their feet. I'm sure there will be a spike in oil prices, especially once the "herd" sees the whites of it's eyes. Gustav will likely peak in the central gulf as a Cat 5 before weakening somewhat (but it should at least maintain a 3 rating). Katrina was really only a 3 or so when it hit New Orleans, but, since it was a 5 out in the Gulf, the storm surge generated with this storm was already developed, and acted as if a 5 at landfall (mainly MS where there was a record storm surge over 30 feet tall!). If this storm makes landfall as a 130+ mph hurricane, it will be as strong as or stronger then Katrina. Given the upper ridge over the southeast, the storm motion will slow once it approaches the northern gulf, and some models even indicate it could bend NW near landfall...which could actually maximize it's exposure to offshore platforms.
Tropical systems typically have huge bursts of convection overnight. Overnight tonight, Gustav will be clear of Cuba. Therefore, I predict that when you wake up in the morning, Gustav will be a CAT 5 hurricane.
After Gustav, there is Hanna (but it may stay over FL), and then ANOTHER hurricane is forecast to at least hit FL if not cross W back into the Gulf once again! The bottom line: No end in sight with these tropical systems coming in...the pattern has developed. Should keep upward pressure on oil prices.
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One way or another, I think we will see some more direction to this market this week. I assume volume will increase after labor day and with dell posting crappy earnings, tech as a leader may peter. Financials were up Friday...but yeah, like that's gonna last!
Market is range-bound. Since our initial rally out of the bottom (when we instantly hit 1292 intraday)...it has been 27 trading days now that we have essentially gone sideways. That is over a month. I don't call that consolidation, I call it confusion. One day Consumer disc. or Energy will be up, the next day, they will both we down equally hard and Financials and Tech will be up. They are simply playing a trading game and I feel the end is near and we will break one way or the other.
Really, how much upside near term can their POSSIBLY be? We've been dancing with this 1280 level for an awfully long time. Time to break down 1260, then 1240, then retest the 1200 low. Maybe support initially there, but if the bear comes out again, any bounce off of 1200 (maybe to 1230-1240) could then be eaten up quickly. I'm not going to get caught with my pants down so going to be very quick and nimble if playing the market.