coolhand's Account Talk

I do not enter my trades either...but in case you want to know more about who else is doing what...I'm down 15.1 percent year to date and all in 100 percent C. My case for being in...don't fight the FED/Christmas Effect/Only narrow short term window to make money is expected...therefore...back to the lilipad within 10 days. Take care, Merry Christmas.

By the way...29 of 30 Dow component stocks are up as we speak. That bodes well for the market today.
 
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Trader's Talk has a one day buy signal that's good until Tuesday, unless things get crazy to the upside today in which case the signal would be finished at the close of trading. It might be a good idea to hold on a little while longer, which is what I had intended to do. Hopefully the gains we see today will be moderate and keep that buy signal in play a little while longer. :)

Thanks for posting. Have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
 
The buy opportunity I got for early this week was a good one, except we haven't seen much of a bounce yet. Things are probably going to go dead now that the holidays are upon us. Seasonality has so far been a disappointment for stocks.

I am traveling to San Diego Friday for a one week vacation, so I will not be watching the market much. I've decided to go flat at this point, rather than take any chances. All G by the end of the day.

Happy holidays everyone! A new year is upon us. :) Hopefully it will be better than this one. :blink:
 
Coolhand,

Best of luck. Enjoy your vscation.
Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to you and all!:)

The buy opportunity I got for early this week was a good one, except we haven't seen much of a bounce yet. Things are probably going to go dead now that the holidays are upon us. Seasonality has so far been a disappointment for stocks.

I am traveling to San Diego Friday for a one week vacation, so I will not be watching the market much. I've decided to go flat at this point, rather than take any chances. All G by the end of the day.

Happy holidays everyone! A new year is upon us. :) Hopefully it will be better than this one. :blink:
 
I sure enjoyed a break from the markets this holiday season. Almost sorry it's ending. I guess it's time to roll up the sleeves and get back to it.

I'm neutral at the moment, but seasonality still favors the bulls. I'd like to see us test the November lows soon now that the new year is upon us, but I suspect it won't happen in quick fashion. The SC rally came right after I got out, but of course it was on light volume. It could continue yet, and if volume follows it'll put me in a tough situation as I'd much prefer to buy weakness. I'd like to think it's getting tough to sit on profits for those still in the market, but the Government's hand is still manipulating things, so it's very tough to gauge what to expect.

All G for the moment with 2 new trades in my hip pocket.
 
Bad News Restrains the Optimism
Last Update: 07-Jan-09 08:39 ET

http://www.briefing.com/GeneralCont...me=Investor&ArticleId=NS20090107084021PageOne

There are reminders this morning that it may be too early to anticipate an improvement in the economy and corporate earnings. S&P futures suggest a down open of about 14 points.

The December ADP employment survey showed a decline of 693,000. This was much worse than an expected decline of 475,000 to 500,000. It is also worse that the 472,000 decline in November. The data suggest that the decline in nonfarm payrolls for December could easily exceed 500,000. That would bring the job losses for November-December to over 1,000,000. The trends in the economy remain very poor.

Alcoa (AA) reported yesterday after the close that it would eliminate about 15,000 jobs and cut capital expenses 50% next year. This was a stark reminder that businesses are in full retrenchment mode. Upcoming earnings reports may indicate widespread cutbacks for 2009.

These two news items have (at least temporarily) taken the wind out of the recent stock market rally. Action the past few weeks has reflected good resilience with buying on dips and few periods of heavy, accelerating, selling. The S&P 500 closed yesterday at 935, up a surprising 8.7% from 860 (intraday) just a week ago Monday on Dec. 29. Over the past six trading sessions the market has firmed steadily.

The current bad news probably won't push the tone back to the fear levels of October and November, but it may curtail the underlying optimism that had been building. It is a reminder that risks remain high even as the market begins to anticipate better fortunes for the economy six months or so down the road.

Family Dollar (FDO), Monsanto (MON), and Supervalu (SVU) all reported earnings above expectations although Monsanto lowered 2009 expectations slightly. There are no government economic releases today. Oil is down $0.50 at about $49.05 a barrel.
 
Bad News Restrains the Optimism
Last Update: 07-Jan-09 08:39 ET

http://www.briefing.com/GeneralCont...me=Investor&ArticleId=NS20090107084021PageOne

There are reminders this morning that it may be too early to anticipate an improvement in the economy and corporate earnings. S&P futures suggest a down open of about 14 points.

The December ADP employment survey showed a decline of 693,000. This was much worse than an expected decline of 475,000 to 500,000. It is also worse that the 472,000 decline in November. The data suggest that the decline in nonfarm payrolls for December could easily exceed 500,000. That would bring the job losses for November-December to over 1,000,000. The trends in the economy remain very poor.

Alcoa (AA) reported yesterday after the close that it would eliminate about 15,000 jobs and cut capital expenses 50% next year. This was a stark reminder that businesses are in full retrenchment mode. Upcoming earnings reports may indicate widespread cutbacks for 2009.

These two news items have (at least temporarily) taken the wind out of the recent stock market rally. Action the past few weeks has reflected good resilience with buying on dips and few periods of heavy, accelerating, selling. The S&P 500 closed yesterday at 935, up a surprising 8.7% from 860 (intraday) just a week ago Monday on Dec. 29. Over the past six trading sessions the market has firmed steadily.

The current bad news probably won't push the tone back to the fear levels of October and November, but it may curtail the underlying optimism that had been building. It is a reminder that risks remain high even as the market begins to anticipate better fortunes for the economy six months or so down the road.

Family Dollar (FDO), Monsanto (MON), and Supervalu (SVU) all reported earnings above expectations although Monsanto lowered 2009 expectations slightly. There are no government economic releases today. Oil is down $0.50 at about $49.05 a barrel.

coolhand,

This is just part of the other shoe that I've been waiting on to fall. Good blog this morning, I liked it. I'm an optimist/bullish also, but sometimes you just have to look at the reality of the situation and make prudent decisons.

CB
 
coolhand,

This is just part of the other shoe that I've been waiting on to fall. Good blog this morning, I liked it. I'm an optimist/bullish also, but sometimes you just have to look at the reality of the situation and make prudent decisons.

CB

Yes, with a crummy two trades a month to work with, one has to have patience for a decent set-up. This market can still go either way right now.
 


Did you have to do that.

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Hmmmm, bearish levels rising already after one good down day (Wednesday). Today's action was encouraging for the bulls. I'd certainly like to see more downside action here, but if we don't get it, things may get very uncomfortable for those in cash (me included). Just trying to look both ways here.

The Intermediate Term buy signal is still in effect for the Seven Sentinels and until breadth and prices begin to deteriorate, it will continue to signal a stock position.

Still watching and waiting. :cool:
 
High Risk, High Potential Reward
Last Update: 05-Jan-09 08:36 ET

http://www.briefing.com/GeneralCont...estor&ArticleId=NS20090105083904TheBigPicture

Investors face a potentially high reward over the coming year. There is also a great deal of risk. The economic outlook depends significantly on the uncertain success of a stimulus plan. Earnings prospects are highly uncertain. The proper management of these conditions depends greatly on individual considerations.


In Government We Trust

Economic conditions are very poor. The current trends would suggest prolonged recession.

There is, however, scattered longer-term optimism. This is due mainly to the hope that a massive government stimulus plan will stabilize the economy and might even lead to a significant recovery in the second half of the year.

Here are some background numbers to consider:

1) The annual rate of U.S. GDP in the third quarter was $14.4 trillion.

2) There is talk of a $1 trillion (or larger) stimulus package.

3) A stimulus package of that size would amount to 6.9% of GDP.

It is far too early to guess at the timing and nature of any fiscal stimulus plan. Nevertheless, it is clear that the amount of stimulus being discussed is huge.

This does not mean that the stimulus plan will necessarily be successful. Hopefully, the spending will be done in a manner which stimulates demand beyond the initial spending, and in a way which ultimately increases economic efficiency.

The Japanese implemented massive stimulus plans on a regular basis over the past decade with little effect. There is no guarantee that a government managed stimulus plan will work.

The current stock market thinking is that the U.S. plan will be far more efficient than the Japanese failures. This partly explains the recent stock market bounce. There seems to be a consensus that the U.S. needs massive infrastructure spending.

Of course, in 2005 when a massive four-year highway spending bill of $285 billion was passed by Congress, it was widely panned as unneeded pork barrel spending. Such criticisms have faded, and now suddenly it appears as if the country does in fact need many more bridges and highways (and 600,000 or more new government employees).

There is a risk that market opinion turns to skepticism as the actual stimulus plan is subjected to debate among 535 congressmen all eager to get more money for their constituents.

Here are some other facts to consider:

1) The current U.S. federal debt is $6.37 trillion (Excluding intra-government debt in which Social Security, for example, holds U.S. government securities. The debt is $10.7 billion including intra-government holdings).

2) This amounts to about 44% of GDP (74% including intra-governmental debt).

3) This compares with about 59% for the European Union 27 nations as a whole, 66% for the core 15 EU members, and about 170% for Japan.

4) Another $1 trillion in debt would raise the debt/GDP ratio for the U.S. to 51%. $1.5 trillion would put the ratio at 55%.

(Note: Intra-governmental debt should not be included in debt/GDP calculations. There is no difficulty in having one U.S. department owe debt to the Treasury. It is an accounting fiction.)

The numbers above suggest that the U.S. is capable of handing the massive stimulus plan -- if it works. That is, the effective debt ratio for the U.S. would not in itself be worse than that of most western countries. As long as the economy picks up in 2010 and the deficits are subsequently narrowed, the debt is indeed manageable.

Of course, there is again a great deal of hope involved in current stock market expectations. In 2003 when the U.S. federal deficit went over $400 billion, there was extensive handwringing over the long-term implications.

Now, the financial markets seem more focused on the immediate benefits that might result from increased spending, and less concerned with long-term issues. A shift in sentiment toward skepticism regarding excessive government deficits is possible.

Earnings Outlook for 2009

There is still a fair amount of optimism toward 2009 earnings.

The current forecast for operating earnings for the S&P 500 in aggregate for the year as a whole is $81.80.

For as-reported earnings (all charges included) it is $42.40.

That is a huge difference between operating and as-reported earnings. There are expected to be a lot of charges throughout the year.

The price/earnings multiple on year-ahead operating earnings is a very reasonable 11.4.

The price/earnings multiple on year-ahead as-reported earnings is a more troublesome 22.0.

These numbers reflect the high risk that investors face in 2009. There will certainly be a lot of lousy earnings numbers. There will be a lot of charges. If the economy does not start to recover in the second half of the year, stocks are not cheap.

If, however, the operating earnings forecasts reflect a truer underlying trend and charges fade as the year progresses and 2010 looks like a more stable year, then stocks are quite cheap at present, particularly given extremely low interest rates.

What It All Means

The outlook is highly uncertain. There is still clearly a lot of risk in stocks. If the stimulus plan does not work, then the economy will simply be saddled with government debt at a time when demand remains sluggish. The Japan comparison will grow.

If, on the other hand, the economy does stabilize and the earnings outlook for 2010 improves, then there is a great deal of upside potential for the stock market.

It is very easy, for example, to construct a realistic scenario in which the S&P rises 25% this year. That implies a year-end level of 1129. That would still be down sharply from the highs of 2007, but would still represent a fantastic gain for new money invested in 2008.

This high reward/high risk situation has significantly different implications for investors depending on their personal situation.

A young person in their late 20s, for example, could find this the opportunity of a lifetime.

An investment in a 401k twice a month at current stock prices is likely to pay off substantially decades down the road. In fact, a person in this situation, with little invested now but investing a new amount each month, will benefit further if the stock market does not recover in 2009. This person will simply be buying more stocks cheaper for the long run.

An older investor, however, with high risk aversion, has to look at the market differently.

It matters a great deal how much risk a person can accept and when access to capital will be necessary. Many investors have seen a significant decline in wealth the past two years, and may not be able to accept much more. Even a 25% rebound in the stock market in 2009 would not seem like much to many older investors. Nevertheless, the possibility of a solid gain should not be totally discounted in planning asset allocation.

The coming year is likely to remain highly volatile with continuing high levels of risk, but also some potentially high rewards.

--Dick Green, Briefing.com
 
I think we have some basic market movers…

Folks got pinched when the FED jumped interest rates early last year. Those not on the bread lines didn’t like the debt crunch their Home ATMs and Prime based credit cards were generating. The smart folks stopped buying stuff they didn’t need and started paying down their debt. And, now, I think they like the debt reduction snowball. So, the end result is we will have very limited consumer spending till Christmas of 2009 (that is, about 18 months after folks start paying down their debt).

The Baby Boomers are now reaching the age where that 12 year old car ain’t so bad. Time to sell that McMansion retirement plan and downsize to a condo. Who needs to go out to eat when one can enjoy oatmeal at home. Maybe some geezer (a status to which I aspire) will buy the Jag or the Escalade or whatever, but…

I think we will be in a broad trading zone for the entire year. The only way to grow the account is to flex it between the end points. Not being a trader, I don’t really know how to take advantage of this. However, my guess is that we are looking at the C fund banging from $9.50 to $10.50 or so – and let the winners ride.

I think I will flex between 40% in CSI to 60%.
 
It is rather strange to read a bunch of articles informing us that folks are no longer investing new contributions to their 401(k) accounts. And, that over 50% of new contributions to TSP are being placed into the G fund.

Why would anyone invest new assets in cash?
 
It is rather strange to read a bunch of articles informing us that folks are no longer investing new contributions to their 401(k) accounts. And, that over 50% of new contributions to TSP are being placed into the G fund.

Why would anyone invest new assets in cash?

I know several people at work who stopped making contributions to their TSP account due to the recent market carnage. Just goes to show how little average investors understand about time and money. If one has over 10 years till retirement, they should be jumping for joy to buy in at these prices.

Of course, I'm talking about buy and holders. While I'm all cash at the moment, I'm merely waiting for a better reentry point, which is also where my new contributions are going. It's not an investment in cash, but a very short term place to park cash while waiting for lower prices.

Unfortunately, too many folks have a poor or no understanding of these methods.
 
I know several people at work who stopped making contributions to their TSP account due to the recent market carnage. Just goes to show how little average investors understand about time and money. If one has over 10 years till retirement, they should be jumping for joy to buy in at these prices.

Of course, I'm talking about buy and holders. While I'm all cash at the moment, I'm merely waiting for a better reentry point, which is also where my new contributions are going. It's not an investment in cash, but a very short term place to park cash while waiting for lower prices.

Unfortunately, too many folks have a poor or no understanding of these methods.
And don't forget the tax advantage too.
Keeping up with inflation -- well, not so much.
Looking more towards the I fund when the $ start to fall. When is anyone's guess. What do you think Coolhand?
 
It is rather strange to read a bunch of articles informing us that folks are no longer investing new contributions to their 401(k) accounts. And, that over 50% of new contributions to TSP are being placed into the G fund.

Why would anyone invest new assets in cash?
Back when I was still investing new money in my TSP (I'm retired now) I always put my contributions in G. Then I could move them where I wanted them. I did that so I didn't have to worry about a contribution fund having a terrible down day on the day that my contribution went into that fund. Of course, that was when we could still IFT whenever we needed to. :rolleyes:

Lady
 
Coolhand - you're right. I have over 10 years left and I am jumping for joy over the current prices. I figure, while it stinks to be "down", in the "long" run, I will end up pretty well off. Thanks for all of your insight on the MB.
 
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