College Football 2008-2009

Oklahoma is showing their Sooner Magic tonight! They have dominated both sides of the ball. The Sooners could end up in the National Championship game if they can get past OK. State next week.

Texas Tech G. Harrell loses my vote for the Heisman after tonight’s game.

Boomer........
Same here..Bradford should have it for sure..;)

Final: OU 65, Texas Tech 21


SOONER.......
 
Oklahoma is showing their Sooner Magic tonight! They have dominated both sides of the ball. The Sooners could end up in the National Championship game if they can get past OK. State next week.

Texas Tech G. Harrell loses my vote for the Heisman after tonight’s game.

Boomer........
 
I'd like to see Alabama play Texas or Texas Tech.

Hey, how'd you guys like when USC decided to 'Ice' the kicker with 6 seconds left and Harbaugh changed the play with the extra time to a pass resulting in a TD. Haha, I loved it. Icing the kicker is now about as bad a strategy as bringing in a left handed pitcher to face a left handed hitter.

Not much movement in the BCS this weekend. Next week Missouri/Kansas, USC/Notre Dame, to name a few I'll watch, but the big one is going to be Texas Tech/Oklahoma.
 
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...e-on-auburn-they-are-after-it-is-a-reckoning#

Alabama, It Is Not Revenge On Auburn They Are After, It Is A Reckoning!

by Franklin Crittenden (Scribe)
Editorial
November 16, 2008

Alabama sits 11-0, and is currently sitting at the top of the BCS rankings.

Alabama has accomplished more this year than any Alabama fan could have ever expected so soon after Nick Saban's arrival.

All of Alabama's loftiest preseason goals are either already accomplished or are now within their reach.

We are unbeaten and are heading to the SEC Championship Game in search of our 22nd SEC championship. If we are successful there we will head to Miami in search of our 13th National Championship.

It has been a long difficult road back to prominence thanks to circumstances beyond Alabama's control.

Along the way we have had a few debts to settle. Perceived wrongs that needed to be, shall we say, righted.

Wrongs like the following:

We have paid back the Georgia players for celebrating in the Student Section End Zone after Georgia's overtime victory last year with a sound whipping in their own stadium and ending their dreams of a national championship.

We have sent the cause of our NCAA misery, Tennessee's Coach Phillip Fulmer into an early retirement by handing Tennessee back to back lopsided losses.

We have broken LSU's five game winning streak that dated back to 2002 and shut Les Miles' sarcastic mouth for saying "It looks like Alabama loses to all the Louisiana teams," as well as put his future at LSU in doubt.

We have ended a humiliating two game losing streak to our closest neighbor school, Mississippi State, that is located just 82 miles down, coincidentally, highway 82.

Alabama has had its hands tied since its run in with the NCAA, and all of our rivals have had their fun beating up on a helpless Alabama team.

Those days are over now, and the world is spinning correctly on its axis again!

Many wrongs have been righted, but the most important wrong that needs to be righted is now in Alabama's crosshairs.

That worst of all wrongs, the smug Auburn Tigers!

The Auburn Tigers have also had their own brand of fun these last six years at Alabama's expense. They have enjoyed a humiliating six game winning streak over "The Tide" spanning all the way back to 2001.

Auburn fans have twisted the knife and rub salt in Alabama fans festering wounds day in and day out for 2,190 days. They have teased and taunted Alabama fans for over 26,280 hours.

You see, Alabama and Auburn fans live, work, and even go to church together. They are friends, relatives, and even husbands and wives.

There is 1,576,800 minutes of pent up frustration hiding just below the surface in millions of Alabama fans.

That adds up to over 94,608,000 seconds of pure Hell just about to be released on the Auburn nation.

So on November 29, 2008 it is not revenge Alabama is seeking, in the words of Doc Holliday in the movie Wyatt Earp, "It is a reckoning!"

For those of you not familiar with that term it means...The working out of consequences or retribution for one's actions.

We have had to suffer under Auburn's temporary reign of terror over Alabama for the past six years.

We have had to watch Auburn's head coach act like a child by taunting the Alabama fans and student holding up the number of fingers relating to the winning streak.

We have had to witness Auburn players celebrating on our field while Auburn students and fans celebrated in our stadium all holding up their fingers as well.

We have to go to work, school, and even church where Auburn fans waited with T-shirts depicting "Fear of the Thumb," and writing taunting messages on their windshields.

We have even witnessed a classless Tommy Tuberville disembarking Auburn's chartered plane over a month later arriving at Auburn's Bowl game wearing his Fear of the Thumb T-shirt.

Well, to quote Wyatt Earp again, we are Alabama and..."This stops now."

Alabama is ready to resume its rightful place in our state, in the SEC, and in the nation as one of the nations premier college football programs.

Alabama is ready to be Alabama again. Now it is our turn to have a little fun at our rivals expense.

Alabama has always tried to win with class, and lose with class, but in this case you may have to forgive us Bear, they have got it coming to them.

Make no mistake about it, Alabama is back!
 
Not much of an exciting week in college football unless you're into the rivalry week. Pretty much all the teams that were supposed to win won by hug margins. I always like the games when top 10 teams stack up against eachother. Even Utah and Boise St won big. Spent the afternoon watching the Notre Dame/Navy, Minnesota/Wisconsin, then flipped between the USC game and the Miss St/Alabama game. It took USC until the second half to get their act together.

Couldn't get the Maryland/UNC game yesterday but got to see some highlights from ESPN Overdrive. Maryland loves to play those ranked teams.

Looks like a few teams may have clinched bowl games already this year. USC/Penn State Rose bowl anyone? I'm looking forward to the BCS rankings later today.
 

It does a little bit but there are major differences. I assure you I've never seen that system before either. I does have some merit, however:

That system depends solely on ranking. Many objections, and valid ones at that, are raised that a team should not be playing for the national title if they can't win their own conference. I agree with that. Last year is a perfect example. I believe that at the end of the season, LSU and Georgia were the two best teams in the country (I'm a GT fan so it pains me to say that). Georgia was denied and Ohio State was plugged in --even though Oklahoma had won a much tougher conference (and had a legitimate claim as one of the two best teams in the country as well) and Virginia Tech was the #1 BCS team. This scenario has played out too many times in the BCS system with subtle variations and they all have to do with ranking and with bowls wishing to cash in on making sure they get at least one team with a national fanbase or a team whose fans "travel well."

I believe in a 10 game schedule as well. With the major conferences having a 10 game schedule, everyone is happy. Teams that have traditional rivalries (e.g. Georgia/Georgia Tech, USC/Notre Dame, UFlorida/FSU, UFlorida/Miami, Clemson/S.Carolina, Michigan/Notre Dame, etc.) that are out-of-conference, one game could be used as "traditional rivalry. For the Youngstown States, Jacksonville States, Central Arkansas of the world, another out-of-conference game is permitted because these boost revenue for the small school as well as assist in widening their recruiting base (they also are great for that once in a lifetime upset). For the other 8 conference games, 5 must be played against your in-conference divisional foes and the other three are cross-divisional games (i.e. Big 12 North vs. Big 12 South).

The 11th game is the conference title game.

For my "Mid-Major" conferences (e.g. C-USA, MAC, WAC, Independents, etc.) -- the allure to get a high ranking is still there because you have enough incentive to play a tough schedule to be one of the two highest ranked "Mid-Majors" at seasons end and play in whatever bowl won the right to host the Mid-Major championship.

16 games is entirely too much. 14 games maximum for the last two teams is plenty. Would anyone have a problem calling a team that ran through my system's championship filter the true national champion?
 
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This is my idea for a playoff system:

7 "Bowl Conferences":
ACC, SEC, Big 10 (11), Pac 10 (12), Big East, Mid-Majors, and Big 12

ACC: already has 12 teams
SEC: already has 12 teams
Big 10(11): 11 teams -- needs to add a team.
Pac 10 (12): 10 teams -- needs to add 2 teams.
Big East: already has 12 teams
Big 12: already has 12 teams
Mid-Majors: one-game championship between the two highest-ranked non FBS schools to determine the Mid-Major Champion who will represent the "Mid-Major" conference in the Bowl Series. (mid-level bowls could submit bids to host this championship).

That is 7 teams: the #1 ranking would still be the thing to strive for at the end of the season because that team gets a bye when the series begins.

so:
#1 bye
#2 plays #7 in game 1 (bowl name depends on conferences represented)
#3 plays #6 in game 2 " " "
#4 plays #5 in game 3 " " "

so, with 3 games left to decide the national championship, #1 team gets to play the lowest "ranked" team in game 4 -- and the other two teams are playing for the right to play in the national championship. The next game is of course the title game.

You have only added a maximum of 3 games to the schedule because, when the major conferences add a championship game, that necessitates paring back the conference and regular season to only 10 games. (Maybe this will have the unintended effect of taking at least one non-FBS school off everyone's schedule).

So, you have 6 "bowl" games --- Rose, Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, and the other two would have to bid for the right to be included in the series. With, much like today, the "title" game rotating between the six "bowls" or just between the main 4.

All the smaller bowls could still select schools and those schools that didn't make the "top 7" would be playing for the rights to play in the mid-level bowls--much like today anyway. There would have to be financial "caps" on the payouts each bowl provides. I don't think there would be a disincentive to select deserving teams simply because fanbases tend to be regional and tend to reflect how well that fanbase "travels."

If college football adopts this system, I will save this post because I want to get paid for thinking it up -- all who read this are my witness. I haven't seen this system or anything like it posted anywhere. :)
 
Great post Minnow.

I'm always kicking around re-shuffling teams in conferences as well, but the only problem is sometimes things change year to year. Air Force and Stanford should move Independent. Move Tulane, S Methodist and UAB out of Conference USA are other ideas I've pondered.

Big 10: Most overrated conference in College Football and has been for some time. Sure you've got Ohio State, Mich, Penn State, but then what? I'm right with you in saying that you want a college playoff, only the Big 12 and SEC count. Everyone else can do their own program.

Look at what one loss did to Penn State last week in the rankings.

Dark Horses.... I still like Chase Daniel for Heisman dark horse and Missouri as a team to watch out for. Colt McCoy is good, but he's the favorite for the Heisman. I thought USF would be the new Miami type of team this year but a few big losses killed them.

Oregon State: Don't forget, they gave Utah a run. If they would have beaten Utah, forget about Utah in the top 10.

I like Crabtree, Maclin, Ringer, Moreno and McCoy (Pitt).
 
Polls: Almost every year, I see something just blatantly wrong with where at least one or two teams are put in the polls. I mean I usually don't have too much problem with a position or two discrepancy in the polls with where I have them in my own personal opinion.

Minnow opinion: The big 10 (11) is horrible this year. I don't believe that even their best team (Penn State) could beat the ACC champion (the 3rd or 4th best conference this year) nor the runner-up on a neutral field. Yet Penn State was beaten by an unranked and still unranked Iowa team and they didn't fall out of the top 10. You get beaten by an unranked team this late in the year, no top 10 for you. USC got beat by Oregon State -- still unranked. The Pac-10 is horrible this year as well. While I believe USC could beat the ACC Champion on a neutral field, being beaten by Oregon State speaks volumes -- no top 10 ranking for you. Texas Tech, Texas, and Oklahoma will work out their differences and the Big 12 champion should be playing for the national championship. The SEC, The Big 12, The ACC and the Big East, and other mid-majors all have championship games. In order to play for the national title, the Pac 10 should move to 12 teams (hello Boise State, BYU, San Diego State, Hawaii, etc. get your resumes in order). Same for the Big 10 (11) maybe Notre Dame doesn't still have the same ego and arrogance, if so, hello Cincinnatti, Louisville, etc. get your resumes in order as well. So, all that said, the SEC champion and the Big 12 champion should be playing for the title this year (as it should have been last year) but I know something will happen to prevent that.

Heisman watch: I have Harrell at the top of my list. Begrudgingly, most analysts have him ahead of McCoy at Texas. If Harrell doesn't personally cost Texas Tech a shot at playing for the national title, I would call him a lock. So, he can't screw up at Oklahoma because McCoy, for better or worse, is the horse that all the heisman voters are still betting on -- just not publicly. Dark Horse: Alabama's RB Coffey... McCoy and Harrell could split the people who prefer the QB and Coffey could slide in. Darker horse: Harrell's WR Crabtree -- might be the best pro prospect at any position on the field (could take away a few votes from Harrell as well).

Watch out for my Georgia Tech team next year. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year for them and they performed above and beyond. They look like a throwback team running the triple option (wishbone with wide receivers). Hopefully they'll end UGA's streak this year.
 
Its stupid... I guess money talks...

Well until the powers that be develop a playoff system, it is what it is. Boise State, Ball State or even Ohio State should be against it because could you imagine what could happen if those teams were forced to play teams from the Big 12 or SEC every year? ESPN's Craig James holds alot back when that subject comes up on the air in trying to maintain his neutral bias but you can tell where his head is at.

Money talks? You know it. My biggest gripe is the commercial breaks and timeouts. It's worse in pro football, but I don't really watch pro football for other reasons. I can't just sit and watch one game all the way through because of the commercials, so I'll usually have two or three games I'm switching between when my #1 game goes to commercial break.

Pill- No doubt about Harrell.
 
Wow - This is not near as bad -

Gator Fan Chomps Down Hard

Wife Accused Of Biting Husband Over Ga.-Fla. Game
Friday, November 7, 2008
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NEPTUNE BEACH, Fla. -- The annual Florida-Georgia game is often the source of some heated arguments among college football fans, but for one Neptune Beach woman things went too far when, according to police, she attacked her husband.


Officers said Veronica Hairston, a Florida Gators fan, was arrested and charged with domestic battery for allegedly biting her husband.


According to police, on Saturday Hairston began taunting her husband at the Days Inn in Neptune Beach once she realized the Gators were beating the Bulldogs.

They said when her husband grabbed his bags and tried to leave the room, Hairston bit the man on his thigh.


A police report states that Hairston then punched her husband in the face several times with her fists before fleeing the area on foot.


Officers said the woman was found after a brief search.


Neptune Beach police said while they don't consider the incident to be unusual, they also don't usually deal with game-related incidents in their area.


"We don't have a large crowd come to Neptune Beach. They normally stay in town or go to sports bars around the stadium," said Neptune Beach Police Department Assistant Chief Tony Carillo.


Residents in the area said they were surprised anyone would take a rivalry that seriously.


"People get worked up, but to physically hurt someone is a bit extreme," said resident Kalie Macca.


Police said both Hairston and her husband appeared to be under the influence of alcohol when the incident.
 
Fight over Alabama-LSU game ends in double murder

Posted: Nov 10, 2008 10:41 AM


EVERGREEN, Ala. (AP) - Authorities say an argument over Saturday's Alabama-LSU football game led to the shooting deaths of a couple at a home in southern Alabama.

Prosecutors identified the victims as Dennis and Donna Smith of Brewton. The shooting happened about 7 p.m. Saturday at the home of Michael Williams in the rural community of Owassa.

Williams was arrested and charged with two counts of murder.

Investigators told the Press-Register newspaper in Mobile that Dennis Smith, an LSU fan, called Williams, an Alabama fan, after Alabama's 27-21 overtime win and an argument ensued.

The Smiths went to Williams home. Investigators said Smith had a pistol and Williams had a shotgun and fired. Donna Smith was a relative of Williams' girlfriend.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press.)
 
I think this is one area that Obama definitely got it right---college football needs a playoff system for the national championship. Maybe he can work on changing that too... :)

I agree. The NCAA has taken all the right steps to create parity (equal number of scholarships, standarized the amount of practice time allowed, equal number of coaches, etc...) but uses the most subjective way to determine a champion. Its stupid... I guess money talks...
 
I think this is one area that Obama definitely got it right---college football needs a playoff system for the national championship. Maybe he can work on changing that too... :)
 
I'll be in-attendance at the Bama/MSU game this weekend. Fear the middle finger (This will be 3 victories in a row if the Dawgs can pull it off). Very doubtful, though.

I predict Florida and Texas in the National Championship game. Southern Cal might sneak in there.... Lots of football to be played....
 
BCS still pampering Ohio State, the NY Yankees of College Football. How can they be ranked so high after losing horribly to USC and playing YSU (a division I-AA team), and Ohio as non conference games?

I'll probably be watching Alabama/Miss State this weekend. That was a nice blowup Coach Saban had when he had to call a timeout early in the second half last Saturday against LSU.
 
Harrell in my opinion has been the most impressive QB. He is NFL bound and his style is already ready for it.
 
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