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From the WSJ:

Late in October, senior money managers from J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. met in a Park Avenue office and discussed the billions of dollars they were holding out of the quickly rising stock market. Stocks had surprised them by soaring 13% since mid-July, and their clients were missing the party. Some at the meeting were nervous a Democratic victory in November's congressional elections would cause a slide. Nevertheless, the bankers took note of improving economic indicators and changed course, shifting half their cash into U.S. stocks. The momentum we have now could carry us through to the end of the year. It is hard to see what would stop it except surprising economic data.

Similar meetings have been happening across the country - and the urgency is increasing this month as the end of the year approaches. Money managers are judged, and compensated, based largely on how well they do as of Dec. 31 - especially at hedge funds, which typically keep 20% of each year's profit for themselves. Mutual funds also live and die on their ability to show strong annual returns. Those who have kept betting against the stock market face real pain if they fall too far behind their more bullish competitors.

The stock market's four month rally, marked by 18 record closes in the DJIA since the start of October, isn't being driven primarily by bullish investors - but by still-skeptical former bears who increasingly see no choice but to join in. Hedge-fund managers, who can change course more quickly than their rule-bound mutual fund counterparts, have been steadily reversing their bets on a downturn since the summer. That has increased the pressure on remaining holdouts as money managers' year-end performance figures loom anf their fear of clients' wrath heightens.
 
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Although stocks have pulled back slightly in the past two weeks and the DJIA fell 27.80 points Friday, the average still finished at 12194.13, a little less than 150 points off the record 12342.56 set Nov. 17. If enough investors capitulate and start chasing the market, it could be a signal that stocks are nearing a top. since there would be little free money left to move into the market. That doesn't seem to be happening yet. Even some of the big investors who have shifted money to stocks still have held out some extra cash, debating whether to move that into the market as well. (Here comes the part I personally like best). And one key group hasn't succumbed yet: individual investors, many still bruised from the 2000-2002 bear market, have been almost as likely to withdraw money from U.S. stock mutual funds as to put new money in this year.

Some pros view the little guys' doubts as an indication of the market's strength. In the sometimes-perverse logic of the market, as long as a significant number of bears remain, there is potential for fresh money to push stocks higher. Wall Stree rallies often don't falter until Main Stree investors finally jump in. ( I know where there are 11,000 folks still on the sideline).

I compare today to 1995, the first year of a five-year run of double digit gains for major stock indexes. Earnings have continued to come through. The cycle of interest-rate hikes is ending. The economy is growing. Energy prices have tempered. We have taken a fair amount of inflationary pressure out of the economy. I am very bullish on stocks and the C fund.

Corporate profits, expected to rise 14% in the third quarter, instead surged 19%. By the time the DJIA began its rampage gains on July 14, it was down only 7.8% from its May 10 closing high. Many pros figured it hadn't finished its decline. They were caught off guard and, as the industrial average surged over the following months, more and more were forced to dive back into stocks against their better judgement. The Birch bought himself $98,000 worth of stock on that bottom. I just might make some serious money in Dec.
 
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I'm up late tonight and it doesn't appear there are any rabbits out dogging me.

Well then Threadkilla how will you know when we have reached the top of the equity market mountain. I do have a few ideas - surprised? In Dow Theory terms the DJIA and the DJTA are the indices to watch, not the SPX 500. The NYSE Composite has confirmed the DJIA as well as the DJUA new all-time highs. And the Transports will be along shortly.

Let's take a look at the 2000 top to see if there are any hints. This is important since the S&P 500 was NOT RELIABLE in the foreshadowing of the upcoming cyclical bear market and the economic slowdown back in 2000. You have to remember now that I am a renegade contrarian so my views are terribly biased. It is very interesting to note that the DTA (Dow Transportation Average) peaked in July 1999, while the DJIA (Dow Jone Industrial Average) peaked in January 2000. The SPX (S&P 500) came within approximately 1.5% of making a new all-time high in September 2000 - only a few months before the onset of a recession and which gave absolutely NO WARNING to the impending cyclical bear market. In the meantime, both the DJIA and the DTA lagged - neither came close (although the DJIA were about 3% off of its all-time high, but the DTA did severely lag) to surpassing its all -time high. If one had taken notice of the action in the DTA and the DJIA, howerver, then one would have been given a very reliable warning signal.
 
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Good luck to ya Birch,
Yea I'm late too! Watching them Sooners and Huskers! Ate too many Buffalo wings. Please pass the pepto!.........:sick:
 
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The Gators and Razorbacks had a great game in Atlanta. Gator nation may have a shot at Michigan and then the Buckeyes.
 
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Birchtree---

Tell me what you think of Home Depot (HD). I bought it back in July and I'm up about 7-8% on it.

I'm looking for a little bit of input.
 
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Hellow Oueey

You didn't ask me, but as my husband likes to say, I do have too much mouth...

I think you did a good thing. I think HD is a good stock to own, strong earnings, growth, pays dividends, is not going anywhere....and, you bought in a dip......go yo0u!

GA
 
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I own a block starting at 25 back in 3/03 and have DCA'd up to 34. They have increased their dividends twice this year - I wish I could own it forever, unfortunately there is talk of a leveraged buy out in conjunction with private money to take it private. That's a real shame. It is currently holding around 39 and may go higher if there becomes a bidding war - this is how I have lost many nice stocks this year and it is not over yet. But as long as acquirers pay a premium I'll find another wall flower. There is just so much liquidity available and the Europeans haven't arrived yet with their inflated euros.
 
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Let's see if we can set this up for a run to Dow 13,000 and SPX 1550.
The idea of a challenge of the MCSUM highs seen back in 2003 is watchable. If this move continues to be the epicenter of wave 3 of 3 up right now, we should not only take out this 2003 MCSUM high, but we will make new all-time highs on the ratio adjusted MCSUM and we would make new all-time highs on the ratio adjusted NYAD, and if this were to occur then this 3 of 3 up could then be labeled as Primary wave 3 to the upside. For those not familiar with Elliott labeling, the "Primary" label is that of many years to decades.

If we are able to take out the declining tops line in the NYSE breadth MCO, we will then be able to move higher on the NYSE breadth MCSUM. Looking at the three year chart of the NYSE breadth MCSUM our next area of probable resistance comes in at the +1200 level. And since the MCSUM is at such a high level as it is now, the average stock price is going to move in higher percentage moves in the direction of this current trend during this advance. Because the MCSUMs are very high this equates to high percentage (point) moves and a lack of price decay.
 
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Well that sounds fine but when should we begin to worry?
See how far the NYAD is from the 10% trend and the distance between the 10% trend and the 5% trend. You should be concerned when you have a change in the trend of money flow and the only verifiable way that you will know that the trend has changed is not only when the NYAD moves down below both of these EMAs, but only when the 10% trend (19 day EMA) moves below the 5% trend (39 day EMA) is when you will know that the trend has changed from up to down. So first we have to see the NYAD break the 19 day EMA - and currently it's going to take some time to accomplish this. The NYSE breadth MCO pattern has moved higher and confirms the near term move of the NYA itself to higher highs, this would suggest that newer higher highs will be seen on the NYSE breadth MCSUM. So as long as the NYAD continues to make new highs and it's able to move with enough strength to pull apart the distance between the 19 day and 39 day EMAs, the higher and higher price is going to go. The NYSE breadth MCSUM has indicated that the time duration for this current advance is more likely going to last until the beginning of February. And if we do make new highs on the MCSUM and start seeing renewed gap expansion to the updide March and April will then come into play.
 
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Well Birch I'm still not convinced - give me more.

A comment about the differences between the daily and weekly NYSE composite cumulative AD lines. The NY daily rato-adjusted AD line (RA-AD) has yet to break its' 1959 all-time high (although as of 12/1/06, less than 7,000 net advances are needed to make a new high), the weekly cumulative RA-AD line continues breaking record after record. The weekly RA-AD line diverges with price long before a serious price correction unfolds. Due to that characteristic, the probability is very low any major price decline is in the cards over the coming months. The NY composite weekly AD MCSUM comtinues higher after recently breaking its' nearly 2.5 year pattern of lower highs and lower lows. At +1242 it had taken out two resistance levels, with the next hurdle being the +1487 high posted February, 2005.

An important point to keep in mind for the longer term, is as long as the weekly composite AD MCSUM (NYSE) continues rising while it is comfortably above the +1000 level, the probability of a significant price decline is extremely low. Thus for now, all is clear for the longer term health of the market - the direction of longer term money flows into the composite group of NYSE stocks is simply too strong to support the notion of a price collapse at this time.
 
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Are you still here?
It would appear that this current uptrend in stocks has enough staying power to continue well into the spring of 2007 (and continues to reinforce how important it is when both the 9 month and 4 year cycles are moving concurrently in the same direction). Gosh don't forget about the 10 and 12 year cycles on the upswing also. All in all, this is, without question, the strongest all around up trend seen in money flow since records have been kept in 1926, and it would be a real shame to lose out on this once in a lifetime opportunity to fully exploit it. What we're witnessing here is the most incredible displays of liquidity strenght ever seen. It's just a matter of time now before the ratio adjusted NYAD breaks to new highs, and when it does, Elliott Wave 3 of Primary Degree will run. There will be no bears left standing.

Another thought is that as interest rates continue to move lower from here, margin interest should continue to be attractive adding further fuel for the current equity market's uptrend. That's enough for today - let's make money.
 
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...the daily and weekly NYSE composite cumulative AD lines.
...The NY daily rato-adjusted AD line (RA-AD) has yet to break its' 1959 all-time high
... The weekly RA-AD line diverges with price long before a serious price correction unfolds.
...The NY composite weekly AD MCSUM comtinues higher after recently breaking its' nearly 2.5 year pattern
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An important point to keep in mind for the longer term, is as long as the weekly composite AD MCSUM (NYSE) ...
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birchtree--
Anyway you could give some links to some charts for these indexes or stocks or equities or whatever they are?

I'm not finding MCSUM and there seem to be multiple NYSE composite indexes... which one shows "the NY daily rate-adjusted AD line"? Ditto on the others you are referring to. Guess I'm a data person and would like to SEE something and be able to repeat the chart at another date.
 
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The Dow is flat to down so far today and I'm going to make more money today than I did yesterday in an up 47 point market. Does that seem strange? Here is what I know. Breadth leads price. Breadth IS money flow - and most folks who watch the Dow as their proxy keep the Dow flat to lower while the rest of the market rises is how bull markets advance, usually that is. These same folks who are watching the Dow will later play catch up once the Dow, itself, starts to play catch up with the troops. But this time is different because we have new all-time highs on the Dow, Utilities, MID, SML, and RUT and we are only 700 points away from new all-time highs on the Wilshire 5000. The broad market is leading and as long as this relationship remains buy the dips. If we do top out in the NYAD at the same time price does, it would only be another rest of the longer term trend. As a bullish reminder there has never been a major price top without the NYAD first providing divergence of some kind first. Showme has spotted something in the charts he watches. So as long as the NYAD continues to move higher and higher so will price and the longer it does the longer the advance will run. No wonder my poor hoofs are so tender. Snort the Jingle Bells.
 
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Hey Birch, just what is the NYAD? DUH!:confused:
 
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Dennis: You are the most amazing person I have ever encountered. EVERY financial decision you make is the correct one. According to your posts, you NEVER lose money.

I find that most questionable, but congratulations.

Dell
 
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