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James48843 said:
Nope. It's a lie.

And that's the facts. :laugh:


http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/shoplift.asp
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It's been four years since the "Day without an illegal" event. Why hasn't snopes.com posted the actual results of the event? It would seem to me that the facts would either prove or disprove the claim. The article you linked to does neither.

I'm sure the Chamber of Commerce in Victoria, Texas would be able to assist in getting the factual numbers together.

If the event was so successful, why haven't illegal immigrant rights groups made it an annual event? I believe the reason for not doing it is, it was an abyssmal fairlure.
 
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National poll on Arizona immigration law echoes Utah's results


By Margaret Talev
McClatchy Newspapers

Published: Thursday, May 13, 2010 1:18 a.m. MDT


WASHINGTON — Utahns appear to be in line with a strong majority of Americans who support Arizona's controversial new immigration law and would back similar laws in their own states, a new McClatchy-Ipsos poll found.

Sixty-one percent of Americans — and 64 percent of registered voters — said they favored the law in a survey of 1,016 adults conducted May 6-9.

Strikingly, nearly half of Democrats like the law, under which local law enforcement officers are tasked with verifying people's immigration status if they suspect them of being in the country illegally. While the Democratic Party generally is regarded as more sympathetic to illegal immigrants' plights, 46 percent of Democrats said they favored the law for Arizona and 49 percent said they'd favor the law's passage in their own states.[more]

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/700031919/Natl-poll-on-Ariz-law-matches-Utah.html
 
I wonder why California cities like San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego are criticizing Arizona when the following section of the Calfornia Penal Code is on the books:

834b. (a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully
cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization
Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is
suspected of being present in the United States in violation of
federal immigration laws.
(b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected
of being present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the
following:
(1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen
of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent
resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time
or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of
immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not
be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and
place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding
documentation to indicate his or her legal status.
(2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien
who is present in the United States in violation of federal
immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal
justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or
leave the United States.
(3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United
States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal
status and provide any additional information that may be requested
by any other public entity.
(c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city,
county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with
jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent
or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly
prohibited.

I realize the law needs to be amended, since the Immigration & Naturalization Service has been abolished, but the law is still in full force and effect. Seems like they should read their own laws before commenting on another state's laws!:mad:
 
By the way, I read a poll that said 100% of illegal imagrants do not support the new Arizona law.
 
Meddling In Arizona :mad:

Posted 05/12/2010 06:52 PM ET

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez speaks in Caracas on Wednesday, May 12, 2010. Last week, the oil-rich autocrat opted to drop state-to-state... View Enlarged Image

Diplomacy: Venezuela's Hugo Chavez is meddling in U.S. affairs these days, with his minister calling on Arizona to repeal its immigration law and end "its old habit of racism." He's got more in this game than he's letting on.
Last week, the self-professed communist autocrat got down and dirty in U.S. internal affairs by pressing the 12-nation Union of South American Nations (UNASUR) to condemn the state of Arizona because of its "legitimization of racist attitudes ... and the latent risk of violence by racial hatred with regrettable incidents, of which South American citizens were already victims of."
In getting Unasur to make this statement, he won not just influence in the region, but also managed to advance his aims in the U.S.
Though not well-known, Chavez has had a longtime interest in manipulating U.S. immigration lobbies to his benefit — in addition to his better-known efforts using Joe Kennedy's Citizens Energy to shill for his cut-rate oil to inner-city residents here.
First, given his own record at home, Chavez's professed concern for racism in the states is insincere. He's used race as a tool to insult — as, for example, he did against Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in 2007, when his sexually charged references to her race so infuriated President Bush that he had to be restrained by aides behind closed doors to prevent a confrontation.
Chavez also directed racist statements against President Obama, saying he wanted to "talk with the black man" ahead of his election, patronizingly praising his accomplishments.
He's introduced anti-Semitism for the first time into Venezuela and used race as a tool to attack Spanish immigrant farmers in Yaracuy state in 2005, printing up government pamphlets full of race hatred against whites to justify confiscations of their land.
Starting with America's big immigration and amnesty marches in 2006, Chavez has taken aim at U.S. border affairs. Eyeing the public controversy over the then-proposed U.S. border fence with Mexico, Chavez tried to win the support of Mexican illegals in the U.S. by vowing to camp out on the border to protest the fence.
More troubling, however, in the last five years or so he's also heaped money on U.S. Latino groups to advance his agenda.
In 2008, Citgo, the U.S. subsidiary of Venezuela's PDVSA state oil company, announced a $1.5 million grant to CASA of Maryland, an immigrants rights group that bails illegal immigrants out after they've been detained by federal agents. The group's Web site says it was the biggest gift the group ever received. http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=533887
 
http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/13/news/economy/arizona_boycott_immigration/index.htm

Hey all -- wow I've got 5 messages :) and can hardly wait. :D

I just read about L.A. reaction to AZ and I've got to tell ya I think that is very wrong. :(

I mean it's not like the new LAW is doing anything remotely destructive or abusive or violating the decency or respect of human life.

It's a 'Border State' and for L.A. to 'punish' them for simply letting Law Enforcement do what we would expect them to do is just crazy.

Well that's how I feel and if I lived in AZ -- I'd all the more say that.

Despite the Market set back - -it's been a good day.

Have a great night everyone !!!

My deepest love and gratitude! ;)

Steady
 
FireWeatherMet said:
....so maybe we agree on some things.
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More than you think. But then that is a position debate and not a resolution debate.

Healthcare=Everyone should have access to it. (legally)
Immigration=Everyone should have access to it. (legally)

We shouldn't have to legislate it to the degree it has come.

Fiscal Responsibility of Federal and State Governments

We should not spend money we don't have.

We know our government needs a civics lesson. They do what they think needs to be done which causes them to legislate outside of the law.

Just like Nancy Pelosi is now asking clergy to push from the pulpit to make people say illegal aliens need a home, yet at the same time call for separation of church and state and ask for a memorial cross to be yanked from public lands that people died for in WWI.

You see, we both know the ends should not justify the means. The means should be justified and rewarded at the end!
 
FireWeatherMet said:
Yeah, I'll give you that one Norm.

But this November...it'll likely be a much more "anti-incumbant" vote than a "pro right" vote. Since Dems have nearly a 60/40 majority in Congress...it will hurt Dems more.. But GOP will lose some also...like maybe senate seat in FL if independent Christ and Rubio split up the right wing vote and a Dem slides in.

I would advance toast your victory for November, but my head is still heavy from last nights vino. :cheesy:
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Not anti-incumbent, change we can believe in. :toung: More like buyers remorse that runs deep and wide. :rolleyes:
 
FireWeatherMet said:
I would advance toast your victory for November, but my head is still heavy from last nights vino. :cheesy:
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That explains a lot of your rants. You and Ted Kennedy have a lot in common. You're both communists and you're both lushes. You haven't crashed a car in a river and drowned a young woman, have you?
 
Interesting article -

http://tinyurl.com/22oo3h8

Customs commissioner neglected to file forms on household employees
By Ed O'Keefe
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 14, 2010

Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Alan D. Bersin said Thursday he didn't know he's required by law to file paperwork verifying that his household employees were authorized to work in the United States.

p.s.- we have an Atty Gen who decries a law he hasn't read, we have a Customs Commissioner who doesn't even know the law; who next will be `outed' in time for elections??
 
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UN wants Thailand to join HUMAN RIGHTS COUNCIL (HRC)

Thai troops, protesters clash in capital; 8 killed
Clashes since then have killed eight and wounded 101, officials said. Among those wounded were two Thai journalists and a Canadian reporter, who was in a serious condition.
"We are being surrounded. We are being crushed. The soldiers are closing in on us. This is not a civil war yet, but it's very, very cruel," Weng Tojirakarn, a protest leader, told The Associated Press.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100514/ap_on_re_as/as_thailand_politics

I think I just blew Root beer out my nose Lady:D
 
grandma said:
Interesting article -

http://tinyurl.com/22oo3h8

Customs commissioner neglected to file forms on household employees
By Ed O'Keefe
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 14, 2010

Customs and Border Protection Commissioner Alan D. Bersin said Thursday he didn't know he's required by law to file paperwork verifying that his household employees were authorized to work in the United States.

p.s.- we have an Atty Gen who decries a law he hasn't read, we have a Customs Commissioner who doesn't even know the law; who next will be `outed' in time for elections??
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Hey I just noticed FWM is 'banned' -- but I can't say I'm surprised.

Anyway I'd have to say this kind of stuff probably makes me even madder than some hot shot getting in trouble.

For them to say 'I didn't know he'd be required ...' If that is a real quote -- and trust me I know these f***ing idiots are ALWAYS reported as pleading 'Not Guilty'. :rolleyes: But that kind of stuff makes me even madder .... it really does.

I would make whatever punishment or consequences -- even worse -- for them saying that garbage.

And for all the ones that get charged for all kinds of stuff and you know beyond the shaddow of any doubt they were not only caught doing it -- but you'd got like a ton of undeniable evidence showing it...

....if I heard them say 'Not Guilty' -- I'd say wow that's too bad cause that means you have no chance for parole ... you're there to stay :mad::mad:

OK - that's my rave for today. But you have to admit when these higher ups act like 'Wow I didn't know'...

when even little kids know this stuff ... I think it would make me feel better if I could just give them one hard kick in the rear.
 
The conflagration is dying down. Now let's not put any propane tanks down by the ashes.:nuts:
 
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