350Z's I fund thread OCT 07

[350zCommTech]

12% can you please tell me how you are getting the -.41 %? My spreadsheet is showing the MSCI EAFE at-1.24%. Perhaps there is a calculation I need to know.
Thanks

12% is quoting the official MSCI EAFE. It's the official I fund daily gains/losses. Which can be found here: http://www.msci.com/overview/index.html

People,

If you're quoting estimates from a spreadsheet, do not say it's the MSCI EAFE. That should be reserved for the official I fund. You should also say which spreadsheet you are using. ie. ChemEng's spreadsheet or Jayhawker's spreadsheet, or Bloomberg's estimates.

Thank you.

 

[350zCommTech]

From here:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=EFD:IND#

That's Bloomberg's estimate. It's not the MSCI EAFE.

 

[The Great Pumpkin]

Still learning, thanks for the lesson

 

[fedgolfer]

Still learning, thanks for the lesson

that boy's head is like Sputnik; spherical but quite pointy at parts


EDIT -- DUH, just saw that was your sig I need a guiness.

 

[ChemEng]

Still learning, thanks for the lesson

No biggie. No harm in asking.

You also want to consider that the price of the I fund is set at 12PM Eastern time. The only adjustments that are made after noon are for fair value corrections.

 

[The Great Pumpkin]

I was using the Jayhawker spreadsheet and it had the "IMsciEafe" at -.69% which has a symbol of EFA. I had that "Cornfused" because of its label with the EFD which is what is actualy listed as a benchmark for I fund share prices (on the same spreadsheet). Like I said, still learning

 

[12%ayear]

IMO, just wait for 350z to post the estimates. He is to the T. I am lost without 350z when he is not around.

 

[12%ayear]

I Fund -.10

 

[12%ayear]

C Fund -80% S Fund-.99% I fund -.38%

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[CorMaGa34]

350, TSPGO and ChemEng:

I also learn from your explanations and comments. I also saw the discrepancy in the figures and hoped to "figure it out" at a later date...
Good question and excellent answers!

 

[Birchtree]

"From 2003 to 2006 M3 expanded by approximately 20%. This increase in the money supply was one of the excellerants that fueled the bubble-like rise in the stock market." (The new pricing floor).

http://www.safehaven.com/pdf/gnazzo_20071014.pdf

 

[pethsm]

Question - if Europe and Asia close before the 11:00 ET IFT time limit, then why can't we know what the I fund will close at before 11:00? Just curious, and forgive a newbie if its a dumb question.

 

[Robo5555]

C Fund -80% S Fund-.99% I fund -.38%

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Japan is down over 1.5% so far. Guess that the move from the I fund to the S fund today was a good move. I fund down 10 cents while S fund over .20 cents!!!

 

[350zCommTech]

Question - if Europe and Asia close before the 11:00 ET IFT time limit, then why can't we know what the I fund will close at before 11:00? Just curious, and forgive a newbie if its a dumb question.

But We do know.

Read back 10-20 pages here in this thread and you will see that we post I fund estimates here every morning. I will usually post the final estimate at around 1140 EST. Look in the Technical Anaylsis(TA tools) section and you'll find two good spreadsheets that you can use to calculate the I fund's current gain/losses.

The only time our estimates don't match the I fund price is when there's is a FV involved. But we can also guess very close on the amount of FV, in the afternoon. For more about the FV, read this:

http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showthread.php?t=3111

 

[Robo5555]

BTW this move was advertised for free!!!

 

[Robo5555]

Question - if Europe and Asia close before the 11:00 ET IFT time limit, then why can't we know what the I fund will close at before 11:00? Just curious, and forgive a newbie if its a dumb question.

FV is the reason for this. Great estimates on this thread.

 

[James48843]

I picked a heck of a day to be out TDY. Left home at 5:30 monday morning, and just finished up and checked into the motel at midnight. Didn't see the markets at all today. And looked what I missed. Dang.

Going to flee to more safety now. Too bad it won't take affect until tomorrow's COB. I see a big drop coming- maybe 3 to 4 percent in the next couple days. I hope that is the bottom. Europe is going to bleed tonight.

 

[fabijo]

I picked a heck of a day to be out TDY. Left home at 5:30 monday morning, and just finished up and checked into the motel at midnight. Didn't see the markets at all today. And looked what I missed. Dang.

Going to flee to more safety now. Too bad it won't take affect until tomorrow's COB. I see a big drop coming- maybe 3 to 4 percent in the next couple days. I hope that is the bottom. Europe is going to bleed tonight.

Thank you! Thank you! I hope you just did a reverse jinx!

 

[350zCommTech]

The sell-off in Japan tonight appears to be just an over reaction. I'm not seeing any confirmation in the Yen. We should get some kind of a bounce tomorrow in Europe and the US market.

 

[12%ayear]

est. from Bloomberg...down -34 cents or 1.38%