Where is my Bonus?

[budnipper1]

For once, I tend to agree with you.

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You need to read the whole letter to fully appreciate it. The guy that quit was working for a $1 salary. This may blow up to Joe the Plumber proportions because now there is a human face with human concerns to the issue the Congress has walked all over.
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Bud,
I'm glad that you are finally embracing the spirit of change this administration has promised (even if you did hedge it a bit with the word "tend").
For what little its worth, one of my favorite Patton quotes is "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." We may not always agree. But on those rare occassions when the planets align, it can be a pretty cool thing.

I used the word "tend" cautiously and intentionally because I suspected that you might "spin" my response to an assumption that you and I think alike. We do not. How you could conclude that I am "embracing the spirit of change this administration has promised" by my remark is completely ridiculous to me and could not be farther from the truth.

My agreement with you concerned the fact that Congress was as much responsible for paying those undeserved bonuses to AIG's crooked executives as was CEO Liddy guilty. The youtube video that was attached to my remark should have clearly confirmed that for you. I would suggest that you run for a seat in Congress. They might benefit from having another member who can see a dog but try to make us believe that it was really a cat.

To be clear, I am admitting I made a huge mistake by "tending" to agree with you. It will definitely not happen again unless you slip up and say something in the future that actually makes sense.

And for the record, if somebody offers me a job that pays a $1 salary up front, and signs a contract to pay me a million dollar bonus later, regardless of how well I perform, I'll take it.


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[Frixxxx]

I have thought about this whole AIG issue and submit the following:

There are bonuses in civil service. If warranted, a person receives a bonus based on performance.

Based on that, can Congress come down and tax a civil service bonus at 90% or supply our names as bonus receivers to be taunted by other people??

Now, AIG argues that these bonuses were retention not performance.

To me its 6/half dozen. Retention means the performance is expected.

Anyway, this new party is overstepping its bounds by allowing bonuses to be paid (per TARP verbage), but suddenly reacting to the outrage from John Q. Public.

Make a decision and stick with it, but be smart on the decision making. Only then will this administration earn my admiration. Unfortunately, I have to respect my elected officials.

Peace

 

[ChemEng]

How you could conclude that I am "embracing the spirit of change this administration has promised" by my remark is completely ridiculous to me and could not be farther from the truth.

*sighs*
Bud,

Let me assure you 100%, that my post was written with tongue firmly planted in cheek. (Thats what the big smiley was for at the end of that sentence.)

Either way, I still think it is pretty cool when people from different perspectives agree on an issue.

 

[tsptalk]

To be clear, I am admitting I made a huge mistake by "tending" to agree with you. It will definitely not happen again unless you slip up and say something in the future that actually makes sense.
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C'mon bud (although this applies to everyone), lighten up a bit. I don't think anyone here is going to change anyone else's political opinions any time soon so I wouldn't let any of this talk get to you.

 

[Buffalo_Nickle]

Bonus..Civil Service..Please,..My Department Head sells and buys and hires his deranged family.. its proportionalx2...quit livin the lie, Dude..

 

[Frixxxx]

Bonus..Civil Service..Please,..My Department Head sells and buys and hires his deranged family.. its proportionalx2...quit livin the lie, Dude..

Wow, a little bitter? My department hands out bonuses and awards for performance. Sorry if your's does not. Maybe a move is in your future???

 

[Buffalo_Nickle]

Civil Service is more corrupt than if or than less than any function in Fed Gov. Lets poll it Big Time..

 

[James48843]

Wow, a little bitter? My department hands out bonuses and awards for performance. Sorry if your's does not. Maybe a move is in your future???

HA!

What agency do you work for? I would LOVE to see bonuses and award money.

I have a nice story around that. Seems in our agency, those in HQ's in Washington get to split the awards money pot pretty good. About 3% of salaries is set aside to pay awards inside the beltway.

Outside the beltway, the number is 0.3%.

I kid you not. I actually got a copy of the memo distributing awards money last year.

 

[CountryBoy]

Threats to AIG: "We Will Get Your Children" Documents reveal the level of threats against AIG employees

The anger in the threats against AIG executives is palpable.

"Get the bonus, we will get your children," someone identified only as "Jacob the Killer" hauntingly writes in an e-mail.
blame Them For Your Empty Wallet

His is one of dozens of threats against AIG and its employees that were obtained from Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthal's office under a Freedom of Information Act request by NBC Connecticut.

Surprisingly, some of those making the threats left their e-mail addresses and phone numbers - making the job of law enforcement officers easier.
Here are some of the highlights (or rather, low-lights). We've cleaned up some of the nasty language, but you can use your imagination:

-- All you motherf***ers should be shot. Thanks for f***ing up our economy then taking our money.

-- Dear Sir: Ya'll should have the balls and come clean and give back the bonuses. I know you would never do this so the gov't ought to take you out back and shoot everyone of you crooked sonofb****es...I would be very careful when I went out side. This is just a warning. If I were ya'll I would be real afraid. Thanks, Bill.

-- I don't hope that bad things happen to the recipients of those bonuses. I really hope that bad things happen to the children and grandchildren of them! Whatever hurts them the most!!
-- You f***ing suck. Paying bonuses to the d*****s that made bad bets losing your company billions of dollars. I want to f***ing puke. Publish the list of those yankee scumbags so some good old southern boys can take care of them.

-- If the bonuses don't stop, it will be very likely that every CEO @ AIG has a bulls-eye on their backs.

-- We will hunt you down. Every last penny. We will hunt your children and we will hunt your conscience. We will do whatever we can to get those people getting the bonuses. Give back the money or kill yourselves.

-- All the executives and their families should be executed with piano wire around their necks --- my greatest hope.

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/AIG-Threats-We-will-get-your-children.html



This really comes as no surprise to me, especially with the continuous drumbeat, by liberals, of class and money envy, has finally brought us to this, the first crack of the breakdown of the civility of the people in this country.

People can’t continually be told that they deserve this or that, until they start to believe it, even if they don’t work for it, bHo is slowly convincing people to take what they want because they deserve it as he preaches his socialist message of spreading the wealth. That gives the unproductive in this country the idea, that it's ok to steal from those that have more (CAUSE THEY WORKED FOR IT), since that's the message they are receiving.

This is just the beginning and will only get worse with bHo continually throwing fuel on the fire by demonizing those that work hard for a living. :worried: I wonder how far down the economic foodchain these people will come until they've decided that working people deserve what they have?

It's really sad.

CB

 

[Frixxxx]

HA!

What agency do you work for? I would LOVE to see bonuses and award money.

I've received bonuses from the Air Force and Navy.

I have a nice story around that. Seems in our agency, those in HQ's in Washington get to split the awards money pot pretty good. About 3% of salaries is set aside to pay awards inside the beltway.

Outside the beltway, the number is 0.3%.

I kid you not. I actually got a copy of the memo distributing awards money last year.

Not privy to the memos you see. I have received them though. Now granted, .5%-2% isn't the millions that the AIG peeps received, but it is still a bonus.

 

[CountryBoy]

Rahm Emanuel's profitable stint at mortgage giant
Short Freddie Mac stay made him at least $320,000


Before its portfolio of bad loans helped trigger the current housing crisis, mortgage giant Freddie Mac was the focus of a major accounting scandal that led to a management shake-up, huge fines and scalding condemnation of passive directors by a top federal regulator.

One of those allegedly asleep-at-the-switch board members was Chicago's Rahm Emanuel—now chief of staff to President Barack Obama—who made at least $320,000 for a 14-month stint at Freddie Mac that required little effort.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/p...,5682373.story

And people wonder why we're disgusted with politicians. I guess that's just par for the course for Illinois pols. Nice little chunk of change.

CB

 

[CountryBoy]

I've received bonuses from the Air Force and Navy.

Not privy to the memos you see. I have received them though. Now granted, .5%-2% isn't the millions that the AIG peeps received, but it is still a bonus.

I work for the DOD and have received bonus' the past 2 years about the size of Frixxxx's. But with NSPS, they give you a bonus in lieu of salary, so you'll high 3 will be smaller, the bonus just makes up for the difference between the salary and the total percent raise approved by Coongrees. So you lose out in your high 3. New employees under NSPS will really miss out on alot of pension because of the high 3 reduction.

CB

 

[rawiron1]

DoD is stingy. I got a $1,200 bonus from my agency in Dec. and since 2002 I have gotten about 6 grand in bonuses. Try get'n that from DoD! And half my bonus dough came to me while I was a temp. intern.! How many DoD interns get bonuses?

 

[Frixxxx]

DoD is stingy. I got a $1,200 bonus from my agency in Dec. and since 2002 I have gotten about 6 grand in bonuses. Try get'n that from DoD! And half my bonus dough came to me while I was a temp. intern.! How many DoD interns get bonuses?

Me, I love the bonus structure here....All I have to do in the Dept of the Navy is work harder than a 15 year ROAD guy/girl and they think I walk on water. I was here 3 months and got a 2K bonus!!!!!