Tally for June 06

[mlk_man]

We think alike.

Retract that statement now!!!!!!!

BTW, I'll be for hire in 1.5 years. Maybe sooner.............

 

[tsptalk]

Start working on your resume.

By the way, I like today's quote from Martin Luther King Jr (hmmm, MLK?... any connection? Just noticed that.)

 

[sugarandspice]

Interesting to note, the folks at the top of the current Tally are either quietly doing well, and are very modest about their strong returns. So next time an obnoxious braggard stops by, ask them to put up, or shut up.

Tom

Dont forget about the mental instability that allows a certain someone to be able to stumble and freefall past major drops and somehow still come out fairly well. I know the hammer will fall on her and when it does we will all see what is inside.

 

[tsptalk]

I said they were modest, not necessarily stable.

 

[mlk_man]

Start working on your resume.

By the way, I like today's quote from Martin Luther King Jr (hmmm, MLK?... any connection? Just noticed that.)

I'm his .............wait, better not say that. Someone might try to sue me or something..........:blink:

 

[TiCKed]

Ok....Quick question: Do the trackers use the same spreadsheet or methodology as the free spreadsheet available on this site?

Reason I ask is that I'm continually getting a slightly higher return for myself than what is posted for me. (Thru June, my YTD tally is 5.19% vs. the "official" 5.11%).

I just re-checked all of my posted moves, and rechecked all daily prices at the TSP site, and can't find any mistakes at my end.

Not a big deal since I'll never contend for top return....But I'm just wondering.

 

[rokid]

I use MM's tracker. Attached is your sheet.---Rokid

 

[ayla]

rokid - Thanks for adding the Wizard of Oz and being so prompt.

 

[TiCKed]

I use MM's tracker. Attached is your sheet.---Rokid

Thanks!

Took me a little while, but I found the problem. The share prices for 17 February are wrong!

(Not that I enjoy finding you in error....Just that I spent so much time trying to find MY error, that I thought I was nuts. )

No big deal...again, I don't expect to scare the top performers anytime soon.

Added: Not to be a pest, but 31 May also contains an error.

 

[mlk_man]

Ticked, you are right about Feb 17th. YOurs appears to be the only like that. May 31st is okay though. It's just not rounded to 2 decimal places.

YOur current return as of the end of June now says 5.16%.

 

[Mike]

I don't get the connection. How have your moves changed as a result of not having to spend that one extra minute to post them here.

Peer pressure. By going up against the others, I felt compelled to do things I otherwise would not do with my account in order to try to gain a competitive edge. I also made more moves than I make now.

My guess is that your improved returns are merely a coincidence. They could just as easily have gotten worse.

That's certainly a possibility, but these are the last trades I have made - you can judge for yourself - after being 100 G during the correction (I only made one limited move into the market during a short-term move up in the market back in early May I think - otherwise I was all G), I then did the following:
40 C / 25 S / 15 I - 6/13/06 ($13.53 / $16.37 / $18.27)
Added 10 C and 10 I - fully invested now - 6/14/06 ($13.40 / - / $17.73)
40 G / 20 C / 20 S / 20 I - 7/3/06 ($11.43 / $14.03 / $17.34 / $19.48)

If I was still posting the account here, I don't know if I have it in me to pull the trigger on the 13th and 14th last month. I also don't know if I have it in me to pull some out today.

Tom - you also have a point - and I think that may have something to do with karma (if you believe in that sort of thing). Speak softly and carry a big stick (or profit in this case). My calculations are probably slightly different than yours since I don't use the tracker - my account to contribution ratio is still low enough that contributions matter a great deal (a whopping 2%+ is added to my account each pay period :nuts: ). For that reason, I continue to use the standard formula that has final account value minus half of amount contributed divided by initial account value plus half of amount contributed for each given period. FWIW, that formula gives me a 1st Q return of 2.756%, so no number inflation going on here.

 

[Wheels]

Peer pressure. By going up against the others, I felt compelled to do things I otherwise would not do with my account in order to try to gain a competitive edge.

I guess I can see that. I do keep an eye on the "competition". Particularly Fundsurfer, that scoundrel.
But in the end, my decisions boil down to A. making money and B. preserving money. I'd like to think my moves would be the same whether I was posting them or not.

Now if I was in a situation where a lot of people were blindly replicating my moves (a' la Tom), then that might effect my trigger finger as it has his.

Dave
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[mlk_man]

Just wanted to let everyone know that as of the end of June, we have 13 of 85 people being tracked beating every fund since the time they first started. Some have been doing it longer than others. That's 15.29% which includes RevShark.

Nice job!!

 

[FundSurfer]

                      June    Last Qtr  Last 6 mon Last 12 mon  YTD
G-fund                   0.44%   1.32%      2.40%      4.67%   2.40%
F-fund                   0.19%  -0.09%     -0.65%     -0.72%  -0.65%
C-fund                   0.07%  -1.45%      2.72%      8.49%   2.72%
S-fund                   0.47%  -3.55%      6.01%     14.16%   6.01%
I-fund                   0.00%   0.97%     10.17%     24.33%  10.17%
20% Each                 0.23%  -0.56%      4.13%     10.18%   4.13%

Top 10 Year to Date   June    Last Qtr  Last 6 mon Last 12 mon  YTD
Fundsurfer               4.33%   5.36%     12.87%   #N/A      12.87%
Wheels                   4.01%   4.90%     12.40%   #N/A      12.40%
Faustus                  2.43%   7.40%      9.42%     15.48%   9.42%
Pogo                     0.10%   0.87%      8.31%   #N/A       8.31%
Dave M                   0.84%   2.60%      8.02%     12.84%   8.02%
soldat                   0.00%   2.49%      7.85%   #N/A       7.85%
nightlite                0.16%   0.79%      7.20%   #N/A       7.20%
Namor                    0.00%  -1.41%      7.17%      7.14%   7.17%
Nnuut                    0.48%   4.15%      6.77%      9.81%   6.77%
Safetyguy                0.44%   2.15%      6.75%      9.75%   6.75%

Top 10 Last 12 months June    Last Qtr  Last 6 mon Last 12 mon   YTD
Show-me                  1.29%   0.22%      5.96%     19.15%   5.96%
Beavis                   1.52%  -0.09%      6.33%     18.09%   6.33%
Dakota                   0.23%  -2.25%      4.44%     16.02%   4.44%
Neirbod                  0.19%  -1.92%      3.61%     15.89%   3.61%
Faustus                  2.43%   7.40%      9.42%     15.48%   9.42%
Dave M                   0.84%   2.60%      8.02%     12.84%   8.02%
mlk_man                 -1.21%  -4.65%      0.54%     11.68%   0.54%
Tekno                   -0.05%   0.03%      5.58%     11.55%   5.58%
Rokid                    0.25%  -1.28%      4.61%     11.39%   4.61%
Pyriel                   0.00%  -2.51%      1.69%     10.26%   1.69%

Top 10 Last 3 months  June    Last Qtr  Last 6 mon Last 12 mon  YTD
Wizard of Oz             8.53%  14.44%   #N/A       #N/A      #N/A
Pointman72               4.90%   9.62%   #N/A       #N/A      #N/A
Faustus                  2.43%   7.40%      9.42%     15.48%   9.42%
sugarandspice            2.51%   6.24%   #N/A       #N/A      #N/A
Fundsurfer               4.33%   5.36%     12.87%   #N/A      12.87%
RevShark                0.85%    5.49%     #N/A      #N/A       #N/A
Wheels                   4.01%   4.90%     12.40%   #N/A      12.40%
Nnuut                    0.48%   4.15%      6.77%      9.81%   6.77%
Aggie76                  2.18%   2.61%      6.38%      8.69%   6.38%
Dave M                   0.84%   2.60%      8.02%     12.84%   8.02%

Top 10 for June       June    Last Qtr  Last 6 mon Last 12 mon  YTD
Wizard of Oz             8.53%  14.44%   #N/A       #N/A      #N/A
Ocean                    5.58%  #N/A     #N/A       #N/A      #N/A
Pointman72               4.90%   9.62%   #N/A       #N/A      #N/A
Fundsurfer               4.33%   5.36%     12.87%   #N/A      12.87%
Wheels                   4.01%   4.90%     12.40%   #N/A      12.40%
Sonny                    3.05%   1.86%      1.78%   #N/A       1.78%
TSP_Elvis                2.68%   2.35%      6.74%   #N/A       6.74%
sugarandspice            2.51%   6.24%   #N/A       #N/A      #N/A
Faustus                  2.43%   7.40%      9.42%     15.48%   9.42%
Aggie76                  2.18%   2.61%      6.38%      8.69%   6.38%

Sorry for the delay, but the sun and surf were too good to pass up.

See attached file for full listing. Remember that the difference between this listing and the one published by Rokid is that this Tally has had the effects of compounding removed so that we are comparing apples to apples. Otherwise someone who has been posting since January would have a compounding advantage in the monthly numbers (typically a few tenths of a percent). This does add up over the course of the year.

Also, in order to have a number for the month, you have to have been posting prior to the begining of the month.

No "Last 6 Mon" since it is same as YTD (Year to Date).

Congrats to "Wizard of Oz" who had an outstanding month of June with 8.53%.

Also congrats to Tsptalk with a 5.73% return for June.

[Milk_man I found an error on my sheet that reduced my YTD . I'll e-mail you the current sheet I have.]

 

[ocean]

Tom just informed me that I am one of the 3 winners to win the June travel mug. I never expected that I could be the top 3 TSPers in any month. Thanks again for Tom to have this board setup and I'd picked up a lot of info and learned a lot from all of you. Nice job Tom.

Ocean

 

[tsptalk]

Way to go Ocean!

You too Wizard_of_Oz and Pointman72!!

Fundsurfer and Wheels were right there with an over 4% return. Not too shabby for a flat June.