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Tally for June 06
- Thread starter rokid
- Start date
SystemTrader
Member
I'm sending my moves to FundSurfer for his monthly and longer-term tallies. I like the idea of having a third party verify results. I also approached www.timertrac.com about this, but they weren't willing to track TSP returns/services.
I can send my returns periodically to Rokid if he wants to include them in his YTD and "since Jan 31" numbers.
ST
I can send my returns periodically to Rokid if he wants to include them in his YTD and "since Jan 31" numbers.
ST
nnuut said:"Ouch!:cheesy:
Griffin's still leading the pack.
RevShark's making a move.
What happened to SystemTrader?"
Quit, opened his own TSP site!!!
mlk_man
Banned
SystemTrader said:
I don't believe it's right for you to have a pay site and continue to have your return posted here. Perhaps we should change this site to SystemTraderTalk.com?
Griffin is/was beating you, maybe he should start a site? I think you've used this site for you own advantage long enough. There's no I in team. Maybe it's time you just go.
JMHO,
M_M
SystemTrader
Member
That's interesting...
In the rest of the trading/investing world people beg for transparency. They want nothing more than to see a trading system, pay site or self-proclaimed guru allow a third party to verify their results. That's the whole raison d'etre for sites like www.timertrac.com and www.collective2.com.
Unfortunately, nothing like that exists for TSP pay sites. If there were, I'd sign up immediately. Since there isn't, I'm willing to be tracked here without ever publicly posting my URL or giving details about my site.
Last I checked, you don't make the calls here, but if Tom decides to take your advice, I'll comply. I've always followed the rules of this site.
Peace,
ST
In the rest of the trading/investing world people beg for transparency. They want nothing more than to see a trading system, pay site or self-proclaimed guru allow a third party to verify their results. That's the whole raison d'etre for sites like www.timertrac.com and www.collective2.com.
Unfortunately, nothing like that exists for TSP pay sites. If there were, I'd sign up immediately. Since there isn't, I'm willing to be tracked here without ever publicly posting my URL or giving details about my site.
Last I checked, you don't make the calls here, but if Tom decides to take your advice, I'll comply. I've always followed the rules of this site.
Peace,
ST
mlk_man said:
grandma
Well-known member
mlk_man said:
...isn't ST saying he will be posting so that his returns can be monitored? I can understand the verification tracking, but wouldn't posting those moves be like Rev Shark having a pay newsletter but posting moves for the general public?
If ST is going to do `moves under the table' to Tom to be included in the tracking process, then maybe this would be a source of income for Tom & the site??? People buying into his newsletter would be like the TSPers who buy into Rev Shark's or any other sites: it doesn't detract from TSPTalk as loing as they don't announce that; also who cares whether someone is making moves based on Rev Shark's advice or not, or
with ST??
I just want all of us to have incoming funds Everyday, Whichever way - !!!It's just an indicator that the YTD return doesn't cover the entire year. Originally, I was only producing the Tally Ranking for people who started at the beginning of Jan. However, I received a number of requests from people who wanted to be included even though they had started at some later point in Jan. Therefore, I've highlighted those partial YTD returns in red.Fivetears said:Question, Rokid. What does the red highlight mean in the YTD column in the PDF's?
For example, according to the Tracker, you started being tracked on 9 Jan. Therefore, I've highlighted your YTD return in red. Let me know if that is incorrect.
D
Dave M
Guest
The Average Account
Here's a thought. We could set up an account that represents the average of all TSP investors, with allocations to each fund in proportion to the percentage of the system total each holds. Are these figures available at TSP.gov?
The value would be, we could then see how we did as a group. Knowing the total dollar-amount invested in the program, we could say, "Federal employees made (lost) $XX in the last six months." Or whatever.
Dave
Here's a thought. We could set up an account that represents the average of all TSP investors, with allocations to each fund in proportion to the percentage of the system total each holds. Are these figures available at TSP.gov?
The value would be, we could then see how we did as a group. Knowing the total dollar-amount invested in the program, we could say, "Federal employees made (lost) $XX in the last six months." Or whatever.
Dave
D
Dave M
Guest
Found It
Here are the figures as of Dec 31 2005, 39G 6F 40C 8S 7I.
http://www.tsp.gov/cgi-bin/byteserver.cgi/forms/financial-stmt.pdf
Dave
Edit -- That gives a weighted return of 1.87% on the 160 billion $$ total invested, so far this year.
Here are the figures as of Dec 31 2005, 39G 6F 40C 8S 7I.
http://www.tsp.gov/cgi-bin/byteserver.cgi/forms/financial-stmt.pdf
Dave
Edit -- That gives a weighted return of 1.87% on the 160 billion $$ total invested, so far this year.
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sugarandspice
Well-known member
mlk_man said:
tsptalk said:
What gives?
FundSurfer
Well-known member
Additionally, many people on that list started after Jan. 3 and thus were given an N/A for the whole year. The reason for that was the huge correction that occured the first couple days of January that year. If you were in the market then, you started out in the hole quickly. Someone who started in middle of January would have missed that date.
Mlk_man, who you talking about? Techy? He didn't start till December sometime. Thus he wasn't on the chart at all.
Mlk_man, who you talking about? Techy? He didn't start till December sometime. Thus he wasn't on the chart at all.
The_Technician
Active member
Seems there is gonna be some major adjustments over the last month on the funds......I is down almost 16%, S almost 13%, C almost 8% ......DANG....think about seeing that on the TSG.GOV site!!!! When is the last time yer seen that!!!!
Think 2000 is here all over again.....????
Think 2000 is here all over again.....????
ayla
Member
mlk_man said:
Thought I would add my "two cents" though I haven't been asked. I don't see the problem with System Trader posting here. How is he using this to his "own advantage" any more than the rest of us use TSPTalk to our advantage? Guess there is something I'm missing here.
I have had some advantage in watching SystemTrader's moves. I suspect others have too.
The main thing is that if he has a commecial operation somewhere else, he should refrain from spamming here. A link in his signature to his own site would be okay but I would hope that we wouldn't get any salesmanship type stuff coming from his posts. I haven't noticed any. Maybe I missed them.
FYI - I've seen other DIY forums that allow businesses to post and find their contributions extremely helpful. They DO have rules that require the businesses to refrain from "salesmanship" to any overt degree. We all get enough of that in our junk mail.
sugarandspice
Well-known member
Only one person it seems has a problem. What the root of the problem is.....well we can all have difeering opinions. And there hasn't been any spam.
D
Dave M
Guest
Ayla, did you notice you exactly match the average YTD return of all investors in the TSP? D
I like the idea of both RevShark's and Systemtrader's returns being tracked here. It's the place to come to see who does the best, short, medium, and long-term.
Aren't RevShark and Systemtrader more likely to have problems with us rather than the other way round? Subscribers to this board are existing or potential clients. If their clients post their moves here, then the tally will show two groups of people trading identically through time with results identical to the two pros. That undercuts their business. I'm a bit surprised either TSPtalk or they don't explicitly ask such people not to trade publically.
Jonathan
Aren't RevShark and Systemtrader more likely to have problems with us rather than the other way round? Subscribers to this board are existing or potential clients. If their clients post their moves here, then the tally will show two groups of people trading identically through time with results identical to the two pros. That undercuts their business. I'm a bit surprised either TSPtalk or they don't explicitly ask such people not to trade publically.
Jonathan
