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Wall Street: Sell what in May and go away?

In an unusual period on Wall Street, the old seasonal standby doesn't apply. But the opposite might.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- As Wall Street comes to the end of what is often called the 'best six months' of the year, investors may be feeling cheated. And concerned. If that was the market at its best, what does the market at its worst look like? April was a strong end to an otherwise wretched six months in which the Dow industrials lost 8%. That's the worst 'best six months' performance for stocks since 1973, when the Dow fell 12.5% between Nov. 1 and April 30, amid an OPEC oil embargo, according to the Stock Trader's Almanac. And if market indicators hold up, May through October could be a tough period, as per the old Wall Street saw 'sell in May and go away.' But in an unusually difficult year in which the housing and credit crises have sent the economy into a tailspin, the old indicators may not apply. "We might see gains in this traditionally tough period," said Douglas Altabef, managing director at Matrix Asset Advisors. That's because the Federal Reserve's seven-month old campaign of cutting interest rates and injecting billions into the banking system has halted fears of the financial system seizing up, he said.

The Fed, on Wednesday, cut interest rates by a quarter-percentage point to 2% and signaled it may take a breather from its rate-cutting campaign.
Also, the forward-looking stock market may be on the verge of anticipating the start of an economic recovery, despite weak first-quarter growth. Stocks typically start anticipating a recovery around halfway through an economic slowdown, Altabef said. If the current slowdown began sometime in the fourth quarter of last year, stocks could start turning up any time in the next few months. "The calendar is reversed this year," said Donald Selkin, director of research at National Securities. "We're not going to see a runaway rally, but we could do better than usual." Also working in the market's favor: 2008 is an election year and the Dow has risen in 9 of the last 11 election years, as per the Almanac. Election year rallies tend to start in the second half of the year, furthering the notion that you may not need to 'sell in May' this year after all.

Why sell in May?
The old 'sell in May' strategy says that if you invest in the S&P 500 or the Dow industrials during the 'best six months' (November through April) and then switch into bonds during the 'worst six months' (May through October), you'll end up with better returns than if you did the reverse. The strategy doesn't always work, but has been one of the more reliable indicators going back to 1950. For example, $10,000 invested in the Dow during the 'best' period and switched to bonds during the 'worst' period in every year since 1950 would result in a compounded $578,413 return, according to the Almanac. The same $10,000 invested in reverse would leave you with a compounded $341.

The strategy works because of seasonal factors. End-of-the year bonuses and the so-called Santa Claus rally help boost November, December and January. February is mild and March sometimes suffers from end-of-quarter machinations. Anticipation about the soon-to-be-reported first-quarter reports typically lifts April. May through October tend to be sketchy: first-quarter results are over, the summer doldrums have set in and fall generally brings a period of portfolio housekeeping. This year is an anomaly. April was the only one of the 'best' months to see gains.Because the stock market is forward looking, that means it was already pricing in the economic slowdown and the systemic risk to the financial system at the end of 2007. Steady funds for unsteady times The calendar flip-flopped five years ago, during another period of great uncertainty. October 2002 through March 2003 was bumpy at best, driven by questions over if and when there would be war in Iraq. As the war drew nearer, stocks began to rally. The Dow gained 15.6% in the 'worst six months' period eventually leading to a multi-year bull market. Buyers biding time A true rally may be a ways off but the markets are now starting to benefit from a lifting of some of that fog regarding the breadth of the crises, said Joe Clark, chief investment officer at Financial Enhancement Group. .

Months of monetary injections, the announcement of a $170 billion fiscal stimulus plan and the "rescue" of Bear Stearns have started reshaping that perception. That's why stocks have performed better in April, despite more bleak housing market reports and big bank writedowns. "There is a mind boggling amount of cash on the sidelines that at some point will flood the market," said Robert Loest, portfolio manager at Integrity Funds, "When that happens, it's Katie bar the door." A good entry point might be summer, when the second-quarter earnings will be known and the impact of the fiscal and monetary stimulus will be clearer. The third quarter could also see some strong buying if the Federal Reserve signals it thinks the economy is stabilizing.
 
Just a thought after a moment or two of reflection.

As my TSP Account stands now, I've been lucky enough to accumulate
a +5.48% YTD return. If I stay in the (G) fund from now until Dec 31st,
I would end the year (if the G rate stays the same) @ approx. +8.68%

With the (C) fund being down -5.01%, I expect a much better return then
just an 8.68% return. But as I've written before, we have a long 8 months
ahead of us.

To quote someone who isn't liked too much here; "Hogs Get Slaughtered"

Considering the 2 factors listed above and to those who are in a similar
position with modest goals, the pressure we place on ourselves have
deminished somewhat. This allows for more patience concerning our
moves, both in and out, through Interfund Transfers and the limits we
must endore. IMHO, this probably holds true for thoughs who are not
in as good of shape. It's now May and the normal game plan might not
apply (see my last post). I hear that the Economic Reports due out on
Friday, might force a reaction much greater then the Fed's decision to
cut rates yesterday.
Average Workweek Hourly Earnings Nonfarm Payrolls Unemployment Rate Factory Orders

There's a lot of money on the sidelines, waiting a sign. When that sign
turns into a positive affirmation, look out, the Bull will come charging
like never seen before. I'm on the sidelines too, patiently awaiting !
Good Luck in your decisions !
 
Wall Street: Sell what in May and go away?

In an unusual period on Wall Street, the old seasonal standby doesn't apply. But the opposite might.
Good article, with lots of insight as to why the market normally goes up/down in certain months, and why the current forward-looking market may rally in the second half of this year. I printed and saved for future reference. Thanks. :)
 
Good article, with lots of insight as to why the market normally goes up/down in certain months, and why the current forward-looking market may rally in the second half of this year. I printed and saved for future reference. Thanks. :)

Thanks Paladin, I thought it was interesting and wanted to share. ;)
 
Squalebear,
More folks read your account than mine but I will post this on my account as well. Anyway it seems like everyone likes to analyze data so I have attached some information. "TSP Account Trends" looks at this year and what happens to the market after all four funds have a profitable day. This is a portion of an Exel spreadsheet I use to follow my daily profit/loss. The other attachment "From Govexec" shows how May has gone over the years. Take it for what it is worth. :)
 
Squalebear,
More folks read your account than mine but I will post this on my account as well. Anyway it seems like everyone likes to analyze data so I have attached some information. "TSP Account Trends" looks at this year and what happens to the market after all four funds have a profitable day. This is a portion of an Exel spreadsheet I use to follow my daily profit/loss. The other attachment "From Govexec" shows how May has gone over the years. Take it for what it is worth. :)

Nasa, I took a look at the TSP Spreadsheet and found a total of 12 days
which all funds FCSI resulted in gains. 1 day missing it by a penny in the
(C) fund, all of which were in a single days trading. I immediately noticed
the range in which the (F) has been trading within. I took a look to see if
I could find a trend concerning the "day-after" returns and found a mixed
bag of "flip a coin" action.

I found the Spreadsheets pretty cool, so thanks for sharing them with me.
Do you notice any action in share prices that relate to a trend that I have
missed ? I certainly would like to know if you see something interesting !
:)

Oh yes, one more thing ! More people don't visit my thread ! I write a lot
of dribble each day and check back at least 75 times to make sure the
Thrift Board hasn't taken that away too !
 
The EFA opened +.76% this morning but the USM are off their pre-open
highs. Something tells me that a late day buying bonanza is coming. I'm
wondering if sitting in the (G) right now is wrong for just a G-Penny. OK,
I admit it, I'm still scared. I missed yesterdays celebration and when I
saw the Jobs Report come in today, I was like a one legged man in a....
You get the point ! My heads spinning in a million directions. I need some
guidance. It's time to seek our more learned members research and get
some of their insights. I hope everyone does well today !
Graveyard Shift leaves me dizzy, I'll be back soon enough !:confused:

Last minute thought, I'm going in, but more in the (I) as it lags again
for the second day. I could be totaly off base as it's only 10:03am,
but, you can't win if you don't play!
 
I made a move this morning. My 1st IFT for the month. Kept some back in the G but went CSI. Never seem to get in on the low side. Just seems like I catch the high side before it falls. :) I agree with the four fund trend for this year that you saw. When I get time I may go back and look at 2006 and 2007 if it shows something different. But the May attachment showed a slight positive for May overall. Will have to look at it closer over the weekend. If you are interested I can send you the spreadsheet that I use. I got it from a friend and added some more to it. Good luck in deciding what do with you IFT. :D
 
I must admit, it has been painful for me to sit back in G and watch everyone eles make money. I just have to remind myself to stick to my guns and look for a better position. I certianly miss looking for the daily trends and now having to IFT based on the bigger view. Sitting in G is so boring, but I have to believe this market is hyped right now and with my luck, if I jumped in now, it would begin to fall.

Good luck all...
 
First, I want to thank everyone for giving me their evaluations and kind
hearted suggestions concerning my head-spin indecision.

I was also a little tied up with the thriftline today. It would appear that
the Fax that I sent on Sunday, went in (as expected) on Monday. But I
saw an estimated $245 difference in my balance come today.I remember
checking the IFT area, before noon, and it stated that I had a IFT that
was pending the close of business that day. Thats when I got all excited
about the FAX Ban being lifted from mail restrictions. Well, It didn't turn
out that way. I was just notified that the FAX IFT did not get processed
until after the 12 noon deadline. That lead to loses I had to endore on
Tuesday, which were never accounted for ($245.89). Strange Things
Afoot, Me Might Add ! Arrrrrrrrh !

Well, I made a decision to move 100% (I) Fund for Monday's Market.
Against all common sense and advice, I took the "BIG" risk. I can only
hope I get Lucky and it pans out, Again, Thanks to all who cared enough
to keep me honest. That is why, I LOVE THIS SITE & MB.
:nuts:
 
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For those of you who follow my "deficit" tracking updates, today the
I Fund gave us back +.05 TSP cents and drove down the deficit it's
obligated to keep on the YTD differences between the (I) Fund and
the EFA closing prices. This leaves the (I) Fund in a mid-range deficit
which could tip either way come Monday. Barclays could add more to
the deficit or take it down to zero. Taking her down is something we
always prefer (no pun intended). Even if it's a down day for the EFA,
the (I) Fund can afford to go down less. How it turns out is always a
wait and see thing. The following is how the deficits played out over
the the week of 4/28 thru 5/2;

4/28 .10 tsp cents
4/29 .01 tsp cents
4/30 .12 tsp cents
5/01 .16 tsp cents
5/02 .11 tsp cents

Before leaving the Board earlier today, I remember saying to myself that,
in a perfect world, the (G) Penny would come through for me today and
the (I) Fund would have a huge rally come Monday. Well, half has come
true. THE (G) FUND SMACKED MY BUTT WITH A PENNY (and I liked it).
Heres hoping I like Monday even more !
;)
 
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Anyone wish to share the general meaning behind;

MACD
Slow Sto
RSI

Chartist's Commentary, Links , etc......are welcome! :confused:
 
Hi SB,
Appreciate how difficult learning can be.
In addition to the charts, etc., - A wealth of info to get started is here too, see:
http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school

One way for example just enter a search term (e.g., MACD)...
http://stockcharts.com/support/search.html?cx=014220487764862281228%3Aye8sh-rw_ku&q=MACD&sa=Search&cof=FORID%3A9

Or, navigate thru the "School's" menus (e.g., Technical Indicators and Overlays ...)
Note the "Stochastic Ocilators" described there (fast, madium, slow).

GL, and know most of us are still learning ourselves.
:)
Anyone wish to share the general meaning behind;
MACD
Slow Sto
RSI
Chartist's Commentary, Links , etc......are welcome! :confused:
 
MACD (stands for moving average convergence-divergence) is a momentum indicator based on two moving averages, a 12-day and a 26-day exponential moving average and the differential between the two. Historically, when the averages are moving apart from one another, with the 12 day pulling away from the 26 day, momentum is expanding, and vice-versa.
 
MACD (stands for moving average convergence-divergence) is a momentum indicator based on two moving averages, a 12-day and a 26-day exponential moving average and the differential between the two. Historically, when the averages are moving apart from one another, with the 12 day pulling away from the 26 day, momentum is expanding, and vice-versa.

Hi SB, Appreciate how difficult learning can be.
In addition to the charts, etc., - A wealth of info to get started is here too, see: http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_school
One way for example just enter a search term (e.g., MACD)... http://stockcharts.com/support/sear...1228:ye8sh-rw_ku&q=MACD&sa=Search&cof=FORID:9
Or, navigate thru the "School's" menus (e.g., Technical Indicators and Overlays ...) Note the "Stochastic Ocilators" described there (fast, madium, slow). GL, and know most of us are still learning ourselves.

Thanks to you both, I thought it was time to understand what I see and read so often, Your help was very much appreciated.
:)
 
May 05, 2008 10:00am ISM Services April 52.0

The non-manufacturing ISM report is a national survey of purchasing managers which covers new orders, employment, inventories, supplier delivery times, prices, backlog orders, export orders, and import orders. Diffusion indexes are produced for each of these categories, with a reading over 50% indicating expansion relative to the prior month, and a sub-50% reading indicating contraction.

:)
 
May 05, 2008 10:00am ISM Services April 52.0

The non-manufacturing ISM report is a national survey of purchasing managers which covers new orders, employment, inventories, supplier delivery times, prices, backlog orders, export orders, and import orders. Diffusion indexes are produced for each of these categories, with a reading over 50% indicating expansion relative to the prior month, and a sub-50% reading indicating contraction.

:)
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