Silverbird's Account Talk

[Silverbird]

*beep* The one day pout is over. This is a test of your financial system. Today and the next few days will be critical
*beep*

 

[Silverbird]

Prediction: Senate will pass the bill, market will continue to be confused, possibly a small downturn or upturn.
Then the House will vote exactly the same way as last time, or maybe even more against, and that will kill the bill, and the market will tank.

The reason?
Senate can be "disciplined" by party leadership on both sides to eat this sandwich.
The House is too big for that to happen, and those on both sides who already voted against this bill aren't interested in the decorations when they don't want the gift.

I'm getting out, even though it's going to hurt, I'm not in losses yet.
100% G by COB

We will keep our powder dry for a better proposal, this one was dead as soon as it was named a bailout because no one has confidence a bailout will work.

 

[fedgolfer]

Prediction: Senate will pass the bill, market will continue to be confused, possibly a small downturn or upturn.
Then the House will vote exactly the same way as last time, and that will kill the bill, and the market will tank.

The reason?
Senate can be "disciplined" by party leadership on both sides to eat this sandwich.
The House is too big for that to happen, and those who already voted against this bill aren't interested in the decorations when they don't want the gift.

you don't think Pelosi can get ~12 votes and House Repub leadership can get 1 or 2 more? Wow, if Senate passes and House doesn't, people will lose faith and we'll tank for a couple of days.

 

[camper65]

Mmmmm Have to wonder?
Sentiment is changing in Washingon from, “No and Hell No”, to “Get Some Thing DONE!”
Could it be that people are starting to take notice of their 401 statements?
Could it be that the Chamber of Commerce finally was able to break through all those negative phone call?

 

[fedgolfer]

Mmmmm Have to wonder?
Sentiment is changing in Washingon from, “No and Hell No”, to “Get Some Thing DONE!”
Could it be that people are starting to take notice of their 401 statements?
Could it be that the Chamber of Commerce finally was able to break through all those negative phone call?

i work inside the beltway... at least the Dems and Repubs friends and neighbors I've been talking all want Congressional action asap... these include House/Sen & committee staffers, OMB,HHS,DHS, lobbyists... and ironically, many of them L-fund holders.

 

[Silverbird]

you don't think Pelosi can get ~12 votes and House Repub leadership can get 1 or 2 more? Wow, if Senate passes and House doesn't, people will lose faith and we'll tank for a couple of days.

Pelosi appears to be tired of carrying the water on this bill, what I heard in her outburst was a message to her side: "We have the votes we promised, the rest of you can vote as you wish, it's up to the Reps to get the votes they promised to bail Bush out." Maybe I've been in the Kabuki of negotiations too long, but that was what *I* heard.

 

[presskh]

Mmmmm Have to wonder?
Sentiment is changing in Washingon from, “No and Hell No”, to “Get Some Thing DONE!”
Could it be that people are starting to take notice of their 401 statements?
Could it be that the Chamber of Commerce finally was able to break through all those negative phone call?

I haven't seen this sentiment shift yet. If anything, the "no" movement seems to have been emboldened since the defeat in the House. I sent my Senator (Shelby) an email urging him to vote no. We may go through some pain in the "de-leveraging" process, but I don't believe the world financial system will shut down. Credit is being given every day, mortgages are being closed, car loans are being made, etc. If you want to borrow money, there are plenty out there willing to lend if you 1) have a good credit record and history of making timely payments, 2) have a reasonable down payment, and 3) can prove your income or positive cash flow. In short, if you are judged a good credit risk, you can get credit - if you do not have the the three necessary requirements I just listed, you should not be surprised if a bank refuses to lend you money.

 

[Silverbird]

i work inside the beltway... at least the Dems and Repubs friends and neighbors I've been talking all want Congressional action asap... these include House/Sen & committee staffers, OMB,HHS,DHS, lobbyists... and ironically, many of them L-fund holders.

True, but the message to the American voters still remains this is a "Bailout", and there has to be an alternative answer to this crisis that doesn't throw our money in the wrong direction, and your 401K if you have one has already tanked.

 

[camper65]

(Will respond in the Lounge)

 

[Scout333]

Could it be that people are starting to take notice of their 401 statements?

jmho When the 9-30-2008 quarterly statements start arriving in the mailboxes across America there will be a fresh wave of calls to Washington,DC. There's something about seeing it in print that really strikes home! You may be right. I believe there will be a lot of screaming for action out there. Especially among the great unwashed that don't pay much attention to their accounts!

 

[Corepuncher]

The big market downturn put a nail in the coffin....the bill will pass now. It only needs a few votes to turn. Also, the bill will be amended more this time, and will be seen as a better compromise. I say 100% pass.

 

[justbizness45]

The big market downturn put a nail in the coffin....the bill will pass now. It only needs a few votes to turn. Also, the bill will be amended more this time, and will be seen as a better compromise. I say 100% pass.

CP, I felt the same way and went 50C, 50S by COB today. If I'm wrong then I'll be stuck for awhile.

 

[Silverbird]

When frustrated, the Bird attempts to turn to humor. Hope I can get y'all to chuckle
------------------
*Choo Choo*
Conductor Reid: “Emergency Bill Express! “

Senatemember 1: “Where did y’all get this relic? I thought all BudgetFreight Trains had to come from Houseville.”

Senatemember 2:“This ain’t BudgetFreight, it’s Emergency Express. We had to get this one on the track cause the wheels broke on Houseville’s.”

Conductor Reid: “Last Train out! This is it! Let’s get this out to Houseville so we can all go home!”

Senatemember 1: “If it ain’t Budgetfreight, why are we throwing all of those boxes into the caboose?”

Senatemember 2: “This is the last train, gotta get the Alternate Minimum Tax Fix in, the R and D Tax Credit oil….”

Senatemember 1: “What about those odd shaped packages? Whazzat, Wooden Arrows? Whiskey? Nascar Tickets?”

Senatemember 2: “Special requests from Houseville. They couldn’t get them on the Budgettrains. Doesn’t matter, they’re small. We just need to get this Emergency Train outtahere and over to Houseville and hope they don’t break this one.”

Senatemember 1: “Don’t we have to load on more coal to balance out the freight?”

Senatemember 2: “Nah, only on Budgettrains. We don't have time to put it on Emergency Trains.”

Senatemember 1 rolls his eyes. "Another Emergency Train, no coal. May I never see them again."

Conductor Reid: “Last Train out! This is it! Let’s get this out to Houseville so we can all go home!”

 

[XL-entLady]

Funny! It will be interesting to see what your Blue Dogs think about this train. BTW, I'm a little Blue Dog myself ... does that make me a Blue Puppy? :cheesy:

Lady

 

[Steadygain]

When frustrated, the Bird attempts to turn to humor. Hope I can get y'all to chuckle
------------------

Thank you !

At the moment it seems like I'm in a tunnel with just a small hint of light way off in the distance....or I'm in a cave and rocks are falling but all I have is an umbrella...

Yet this will pass and when it does - finally pass - all of this will be forgotten as things get better.

Well that's it for me - heading home to the wife, daughter, Ella and my little political cream puff Sarah.

 

[Silverbird]

I expect the stock market to remain skittish. Hoping the libor eases a little indicating more lending - that may take some time but I think it will move before the market. Libor is in the driver's seat.

 

[Silverbird]

OK. I have never posted. Have never paid much attention to my TSP account. For some (now obviously stupid reason) I have had my allocation 20% I and 80% L1040. I am trying to figure out whether to leave my allocation like that to maybe catch some type of little upswing or switch over to 50C, 50G. I would like any input.

From now on, you know I will be paying a lot more attention.

Ow, that's gotta be an unpleasant surprise. I'm a very nervous bird, and maybe not your best advisor. Do you have an account thread? If so, re-post your question there, if not I think TSPTalk can help you do that? My postings can be long and slightly frivilous, and I don't want your question lost in "*choo Choo*", and "I want my IFT"...:embarrest: Right now, wait to get some advice, measure twice, cut once, and as someone else from the board said, watch which side the blade is on before cutting.

 

[juliebeb]

Thanks. I am not only a newbie to this site, I also have never posted to any forum before, except once when I was looking for a car part. So I will try to find out how to open a thread.

 

[tsptalk]

Hi Julie -

I'll move your question into the member introductions area. http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showthread.php?t=6309

 

[Steadygain]

Thanks. I am not only a newbie to this site, I also have never posted to any forum before, except once when I was looking for a car part. So I will try to find out how to open a thread.

Julie - I equally welcome you.

It's been awhile but....I think once you've posted 10 times you can set up your own home.

And we look forward to that.