Shutdown is here.

[James48843]

The House already passed the CR.

They really don't have to come back and 'do something' till the Senate passes something. If the something the Senate passes differs, then the House and Senate have to reconcile and both have to vote again.

If the Senate passes the House CR we are done.

Senate isn’t going to get the House CR. It doesn’t matter how many times you vote on the same bill, the vote isn’t going to change.
Ten votes so far. Three weeks wasted.

The only solution is to negotiate a compromise. The House CR is not acceptable. How long will the Senate refuse to sit down and talk? You can’t work a compromise until people start talking to each other.

In the meantime, Rome burns.

 

[tsptalk]

I think you are right. This is playing out exactly as planned.

Schumer spoke with Punchbowl News, an outlet based in Washington, D.C., and said that as the shutdown continues, things keep getting "better" for the Democrats.

"Every day gets better for us," Schumer reportedly told Punchbowl News. "It’s because we’ve thought about this long in advance, and we knew that health care would be the focal point on Sept. 30, and we prepared for it… Their whole theory was — threaten us, bamboozle us, and we would submit in a day or two."

It's a game of chicken.

As far as the stock market is concerned... Wall Street is yawning.

 

[Boghie]

Senate isn’t going to get the House CR. It doesn’t matter how many times you vote on the same bill, the vote isn’t going to change.
Ten votes so far. Three weeks wasted.

The only solution is to negotiate a compromise. The House CR is not acceptable. How long will the Senate refuse to sit down and talk? You can’t work a compromise until people start talking to each other.

In the meantime, Rome burns.

Uh @James48843,

If the Senate votes in the garbage the House and Senate dumped in the BBB, the House will not accept it. They will vote it down. We will be in the same place. If anything, it will be less flexible.

So, the compromise has to start in the Senate. Maybe don't lard the thing with refunding unpalatable elements of USAID. Maybe accept that NPR is no longer to be funded by the Federal Gubmint. Maybe accept that the ACA did not actually fund itself and did not result in a $2,500 savings for everybody's insurance costs and that the actual insurance will cost much more than desired - but, perhaps should have a greater subsidy because folks have become dependent on it.

So, maybe the adults in the Democratic Senate caucus wipe out the DEI and other stooopid funding from their proposal, request ONLY the ObamaCare subsidies, and see what happens. Don't give Speaker Johnson a laundry list of a hundred million dollars of stupid crap to read out in a press gaggle. Pick what is truly needed and what is functionally possible and give that a try.

BTW, nobody cares about the fearsome Gubmint Shutdown.

 

[tsptalk]

BTW, nobody cares about the fearsome Gubmint Shutdown.

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