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If AGG does mimic the F fund then look at this.

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/hl?s=AGG+Holdings

Awful lot of US Treasuries in there. Are they inflation protected Treasuries TIPS? Or, does all you gains get eaten by inflation when it comes?
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Good RRaaffs!
They say 75% are rated "AAA."
(They are what China is holding ALOT of afterall.) :sick:
What's the "Other" (2%) - maybe TIPS? :nuts:
Much Thanks!
Like to know if likely very short term running to "F" would be OK (as the traditional alternative to equities, besides "G".
Another month or two it sure seems like TSP should be all in TIPS. :notrust:
 
I recently happened to notice that your back door neighbor (GDI) Gardner Denver is selling for $84. They must be doing well.
 
Ron Paul Launches Presidential Campaign

http://www.nationaljournal.com/poli...0425?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4db609ab31d56fb8,0

And, here is a little note I found from another source.

Democracies always self-destruct when the non-productive majority realizes that it can vote itself handouts from the productive minority by electing the candidate promising the most benefits from the public treasury. To maintain their power, these candidates must adopt an ever-increasing tax and spend policy to satisfy the ever-increasing desires of the majority. As taxes increase, incentive to produce decreases, causing many of the once productive to drop out and join the non-productive. When there are no longer enough producers to fund the legitimate functions of government and the socialist programs, the democracy will collapse, always to be followed by a Dictatorship.
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And more.



Even though nearly every politician, teacher, journalist and citizen believes that our Founders created a democracy, it is absolutely not true. The Founders knew full well the differences between a Republic and a Democracy. They repeatedly and emphatically said that they had founded a Republic.
Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution "guarantees to every state in this union a Republican form of government".... Conversely, the word Democracy is not mentioned even once in the Constitution. Madison warned us of the dangers of democracies with these words,
"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths...",
"We may define a republic to be ... a government which derives all its powers directly or indirectly from the great body of the people, and is administered by persons holding their offices during pleasure for a limited period, or during good behavior. It is essential to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it; otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic." James Madison, Federalist No. 10, (1787) "A wise man will not leave the right to the mercy of chance, nor wish it to prevail through the power of the majority. There is but little virtue in the action of masses of men." Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862)
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Show-me,

This quote from Madison states, in pertinent part: "It is essential to such a government that it be derived from the great body of the society, not from an inconsiderable proportion or a favored class of it; otherwise a handful of tyrannical nobles, exercising their oppressions by a delegation of their powers, might aspire to the rank of republicans and claim for their government the honorable title of republic."

A representative democracy, which we have strived to preserve through the years, is not inconsistent with his idea ..., but the Constitution is a living instrument, understood by many to be developed in order to create a more perfect union. Arguably, the debate has not ended ...
 
Billl Gross is still defending his shorting of Treasuries and I'm with him with TBT. It broke throught the 200 dma and is ripe for picking. Gross said he would not unload his shorts unless we go into another recession. That would trigger a exit from stocks into safer investments of Treasuries, my word, not his.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110509/bs_nm/us_investing_pimco_fund_4

I'm back into the market. Why? QE1 and QE2 kick my a$$ and the economy is not the market. The market can continue to go up even tho the economy sucks the big green one because of the free trade and globilization. Companies can continue to make improvements in production by continuing to outsource labor. Sales gains are being made in China, India, and South America. By 2016 China will over take the USA economy. Tell you something?

I'm reminded of Ross Perot. "There will be a giant sucking sound going South?" When Mexican wages come up from $1 a hour to $6 a hour and our wages come down to $6 a hour, that is when it will stop and by then you wreaked the Country.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rkgx1C_S6ls

My lesson the last two years is even tho the economy is sucking and we lost over 8 million jobs, the rest of the world is the markets oyster. Hard times coming for my kids.
 
http://www.cnbc.com/id/43134077

US Worse Off Financially Than Euro Nations: Walker

"We're not growing enough and we're not going to grow our way out of this problem," he said in a CNBC interview. "We would have to have double-digit real GDP growth for decades to grow our way out of this hole."
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"We have to broaden the base—51 percent of Americans don't have any income taxes," he said. "That's not acceptable in a democracy."
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If you let the Bush/Obama tax cuts expire, end the both wars today and bring everyone home, cut all foreign aid, and cut all earmarks, that would only solve 15% of the problem.:worried:
 
Show-me said:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/43134077

US Worse Off Financially Than Euro Nations: Walker





If you let the Bush/Obama tax cuts expire, end the both wars today and bring everyone home, cut all foreign aid, and cut all earmarks, that would only solve 15% of the problem.:worried:
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I think people need to start coming to grip with the fact that our problems at this point are not financial but political, and that seems even harder to fix. I personally feel that what is happening in Greece will start slowly playing out here in the U.S. Nobody wants to cut anything all the politicians care about is saving their careers and to that end are determined to fight the "other" side. They'll just fight all of us into financial ruin, I firmly believe this.:mad:
 
Afishegg said:
I think people need to start coming to grip with the fact that our problems at this point are not financial but political, and that seems even harder to fix. I personally feel that what is happening in Greece will start slowly playing out here in the U.S. Nobody wants to cut anything all the politicians care about is saving their careers and to that end are determined to fight the "other" side. They'll just fight all of us into financial ruin, I firmly believe this.:mad:
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So what is a defensive plan for that scenario then? How do we hold on to some resources if it plays out that way?
 
burrocrat said:
So what is a defensive plan for that scenario then? How do we hold on to some resources if it plays out that way?
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Your guess is as good as mine. I don't really think there is one. I'm reading a couple of articles this morning saying basically we might actually be worse off than Europe, and also we are seeing that the #'s coming out of Washington show that the U.S economy is slowing back down while unemployment is moving back up. It's interesting to me because I personally never believed this was a "real" recovery but simply a government inflated recovery and was/is only temporary....real temporary. I think our problems are not behind us but in front of us and that the government by buying itself a little time inflated the problems, ( this is also the peter schiff, nouriel rubini, Austrian school of finance way of thinking )and soon those problems WILL be in full swing and there is nothing that can be done about it. Grit your teeth, tighten your pants and pucker your cheeks cuz when the S**t hits the fan, were all gonna be a hurtin!

But that's only my opinion.:cheesy:
 
They'll have to make up huge amount of the deficit with nat gas from Russia. how's that going to work out for them? Russia can use the leverage to political and economic advantage, they were already doing that with other countries. Until everyone focuses on thorium-which is a whooooole lot safer and is compatible with the anti-AGW objective too.
 
Economy is getting scary here, but the market is another thing. Housing is double dipping and employment is too. China is becoming the great consumer driven economy, so say they will surpass our economy in less than five years.
 
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