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She gets the part - that when it comes to 'politics' it's pretty much always overkill and protraying 'eminent and immediate danger'

Remember the Weapons of Mass Destruction .... while throughout the same years the Greatest Weapon of Mass Destruction (Financial) brought the world to it's knees and now millions and millions are still suffering as a result.

The article is essentially part of the Circus and keeps everything going as usual. Had it been 'Republician' (which I am) it would have been the same story but different characters.

The focus needs to be on the Pharmaceutical Companies and the Insurance Industry - taking a good hard look at our present Heatlh Care System and why it operates mostly for their interests and secondly and barely for the interests of those with insurance.
 
This guy doesn't get it...

Peggy Noonan has really, really bad timing
"Arriving online the morning after right-wing teabaggers sparked arrests, fights and mayhem at town hall meetings across the country, Noonan warns it's Democrats who are unleashing an "ugly" tone to the health care debate. It's Democrats who are being "unhelpfully divisive and provocative."
 
White House to Democrats: 'Punch back twice as hard'

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25891.html


Top White House aides gave Senate Democrats a recess battle plan on Thursday, arming the lawmakers with tips for avoiding disastrous town hall meetings while showing them polling on popular aspects of the reform effort.


Senior White House adviser David Axelrod and deputy chief of staff Jim Messina told senators to focus on the insured and how they would benefit from “consumer protections" in the overhaul, such as ending the practice of denying insurance based on preexisting conditions and ensuring the continuity of coverage between jobs.


They showed video clips of the confrontational town halls that have dominated the media coverage, and told senators to do more prep work than usual for their public meetings by making sure their own supporters turn out, senators and aides said.


And they screened TV ads and reviewed the various campaigns by critics of the Democratic plan.


“If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” Messina said, according to an official who attended the meeting.


Hit back twice as hard? I guess if the Dems don't like what they hear, they've been given the go ahead and hit back 2x as hard, as wasn't him who said we need to be tolerant. Lets don't escalate this like the Gate's fiasco.:rolleyes:

Very presidential, it's obvious that if you don't agree with the emperor, he's going to sic his bully boys, (ACORN) on us, or at least some of ys. :laugh:
We're going to have to stand up for our Freedom of speech or does it now belong only to his bully boys and followers.:confused:

Not my Hope and Change.:mad:

CB (RWE)
 
James48843 said:
Peggy Noonan.... not representative of the American center.
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I know that I have become very polarized in the last 5 to 10 years, and it is somewhat sad. I look at everything now, watching for some political spin. I was probably much happier when I was clueless.

My question is, who would you say is a good example of an "American center"? It would have to be someone basically ignorant of politics because unless you've been living in a cave for the last 10 years, you have probably been steared one way of the other on most issues. Hollywood - Left. Talk Radio - Right. Media - Left. Judging by poll results on TSP Talk... investors and traders - Right.

So, who would you say is an "American center"? I can't think of anyone off hand.
 
The late Tim Russert came pretty close. He was a real pro and still thought like and about the common man. I didn't agree with everything he said, but he was very good at explaining his POV and could back it up with real numbers, very little to minimal spinning, that deserved respect, at least from my POV.

CB (RWE)
 
CountryBoy said:
The late Tim Russert came pretty close. ... very little to minimal spinning, that deserved respect
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Yeah, it is very difficult to hear anything these days without some spin.

I did find this, however, so it seems he did lean at least a little one way...
Prior to becoming host of Meet the Press, Russert worked as a special counsel, and later as chief of staff, to U.S. Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, a Democrat from New York. In 1983, he became the counsel to New York Governor Mario Cuomo, also a Democrat.
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In case someone didn't see it, the question is...
Who would you say is an example of an "American center"?
 
That person only exists in fiction I'm afraid:

forrestgump.jpg


Politics:
Forrest Gump: [in the Watergate hotel; on phone with security] Yeah, sir, you might want to send a maintenance man over to that office across the way. The lights are off, and they must be looking for a fuse box, 'cause them flashlights, they keep me awake.

Forrest Gump: The best thing about visiting the President is the food! Now, since it was all free, and I wasn't hungry but thirsty, I must've drank me fifteen Dr. Peppers.

Gender issues:
Jenny Curran: Have you ever been with a girl, Forrest?
Forrest Gump: [nervously] I sit next to them in my Home Economics class...

Forrest Gump: He should not be hitting you, Jenny.

Race relations:

Forrest Gump: I'm sorry I had to fight in the middle of your Black Panther party.

Bubba: My given name is Benjamin Buford Blue, but people call me Bubba. Just like one of them ol' redneck boys. Can you believe that?
Forrest Gump: My name's Forrest Gump. People call me Forrest Gump.

Investing ideas:

[Forrest Gump referring to Apple Computer]
Forrest Gump: Lieutenant Dan got me invested in some kind of fruit company. So then I got a call from him, saying we don't have to worry about money no more. And I said, that's good! One less thing.

International relations:
Forrest Gump: [to Jenny] They're sendin' me to Vietnam...
[Jenny is despondent]
Forrest Gump: ...It's this whole 'nuther country.
 
Minnow said:
That person only exists in fiction I'm afraid:

forrestgump.jpg


Politics:
Forrest Gump: [in the Watergate hotel; on phone with security] Yeah, sir, you might want to send a maintenance man over to that office across the way. The lights are off, and they must be looking for a fuse box, 'cause them flashlights, they keep me awake.

Forrest Gump: The best thing about visiting the President is the food! Now, since it was all free, and I wasn't hungry but thirsty, I must've drank me fifteen Dr. Peppers.

Gender issues:
Jenny Curran: Have you ever been with a girl, Forrest?
Forrest Gump: [nervously] I sit next to them in my Home Economics class...

Forrest Gump: He should not be hitting you, Jenny.

Race relations:

Forrest Gump: I'm sorry I had to fight in the middle of your Black Panther party.

Bubba: My given name is Benjamin Buford Blue, but people call me Bubba. Just like one of them ol' redneck boys. Can you believe that?
Forrest Gump: My name's Forrest Gump. People call me Forrest Gump.

Investing ideas:

[Forrest Gump referring to Apple Computer]
Forrest Gump: Lieutenant Dan got me invested in some kind of fruit company. So then I got a call from him, saying we don't have to worry about money no more. And I said, that's good! One less thing.

International relations:
Forrest Gump: [to Jenny] They're sendin' me to Vietnam...
[Jenny is despondent]
Forrest Gump: ...It's this whole 'nuther country.
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You forgot one: General outlook on life:
Life's like a box of chocolates...you never know whatcha gonna get.:D
 
True Tom,

But Moynihan was one of the last dying breed of Dems that had some common sense, not like the whack jobs now. Shot now if your not a whack job Dem, they'll just run ya otta the party, witness Lieberman, of course being Jewish is a strike against him as far as the left is concerned. As spoken they all have beliefs one side or the other, so I'm probably wrong about anyone being unbiased, but Russert did a better job of keeping his personal feelings out of most interviews than anyone. I wouldn't give a warm bucket of spit for what we have now, newsman or politician.

Of course I remember Huntley and Brinkley also. :)

CB (RWE)
 
I think the media has done an outstanding job of polarizing the masses over the years. It's no wonder gun sales are so brisk and ammo is backordered.

Regardless of of how one portrays Peggy, she is certainly correct in that tempers are elevated and going higher. That's not what a prudent administration should be fostering, and I don't care what side of the political fence they are on.

I'm a conservative who's probably a little right of center, but I think I know how to think for myself and make logical conclusions. The liberal policies we're seeing fly in the face of historical fact. You can't keep making the same mistake while expecting different results (such as health care).

The biggest problem we have with our Government right now is arrogance. Peggy pretty much portrayed that in her opinion piece.
 
coolhand,

That was amazing!!! :D Gold star!

"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic." Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
 
I did not see any transvestites or at risk minorities in that audience - where they all at?
 
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