luv2read
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Aw CB, what's the matter? You don't like pink?Keeping it civil, so SB won't bring out those cuffs.
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SHOCKING IT'S MSNBC - 2 repub's bashing Palin on an opon microphone. Sounds a bit rehearsed to me.
Palin better give the speech of her life tonight no Bull Shi# or it will be over.
Buster
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or eating crow for being suck cynical diks.
30 minutes to go for Sarah...It ain't gonna matter how well her speech is..there will be people trearing her down...I will give Osama and Biden credit..telling the media and everyone else, to "leave the children out of it"
Besides, what's not to like about her?
James48843
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Buster-
You realize that photo is a fake, right?
I'm just asking....
http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/palin.asp
James48843
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OK- what are your thoughts about the credibility of this guy?
http://www.pownetwork.org/bios/b/b110.htm
Would you say he is someone whom you would listen to?
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From the POW network:
BUTLER, PHILLIP NEAL
Name: Phillip Neal Butler
Rank/Branch: O3/United States Navy
Unit: VA 22
Date of Birth: 11 August 1938
Home City of Record: Tulsa OK
Date of Loss: 20 April 1965
Country of Loss: North Vietnam
Loss Coordinates: 192000 N 1052700E
Status (in 1973): Returnee
Category:
Aircraft/Vehicle/Ground: A4C
Missions: 13
Other Personnel in Incident: none
Source: Compiled by P.O.W. NETWORK March 1997 from one or more of the
following: raw data from U.S. Government agency sources, correspondence with
POW/MIA families, published sources, personal interviews.
REMARKS: 730212 RELEASED BY DRV
SOURCE: WE CAME HOME copyright 1977
Captain and Mrs. Frederic A Wyatt (USNR Ret), Barbara Powers Wyatt, Editor
P.O.W. Publications, 10250 Moorpark St., Toluca Lake, CA 91602
Text is reproduced as found in the original publication (including date and
spelling errors).
UPDATE - 09/95 by the P.O.W. NETWORK, Skidmore, MO
PHILLIP N. BUTLER
Lieutenant Commander - United States Navy
Shot Down: April 20, 1965
Released: February 12, 1973
As I began my first morning of freedom, after seven years and ten months of
captivity, at 4:00 A.M. On 13 February 1973 at Clarke Air Base in the
Philippines, I sat on my clean white hospital bed and gazed out my window at
a stop light that was changing red and green.
I reflected on my past life. How fortunate you are, I thought. Tulsa,
Oklahoma, my home town, friends, family, 13 years of free public education,
four years of free college at the Naval Academy, a commission in the Navy,
pilot's wings, an opportunity to serve my country, and now - a stop light.
What does the stop light mean? It means that no other country in the world
would bother to place such a small safety device in a little used
intersection, and keep it going through the night, just because of the one
in a million chance that it might save a life at 4:00 A.M. No other country
in the world so highly prizes individual life - the dignity of man.
How fortunate you are - you American.
March 1997 Biography - Phillip Neal Butler, Ph.D.
I graduated from the U.S. Naval Academy, class of 1961. Flew the A4C with
VA-22 aboard the USS Midway. I went down at night, over Vinh, on April 20,
1965 from malfunctioning VT fused bombs. Spent 4 days and nights attempting
to evade capture but was finally tracked down by two well-trained german
shepherd dogs. I was repatriated on February 12, 1973.
After spending 10 months in and out of Balboa Naval Hospital I got recurrent
in the A4 at Miramar N.A.S. In January of 1974 I began graduate school in
Social Psychology at the University of California at San Diego. Finished my
course requirements for a Ph.D. in June of 1976 and reported to the Navy
Human Resource Management Center, San Diego. I spent 3 years in this program
during which time I also did the field work for my dissertation. In June of
1979 I reported to the Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, California for
an assignment on the faculty. Completed my dissertation and was awarded my
Ph.D. in June, 1981. Two weeks later I retired with 20 years and started my
own Organizational Development consulting business.
In 1978, at the 5th San Diego area POW reunion I met Chuck Baldock's little
sister, Barbara. We had our first official "date" a few months later at
President Nixon's house in San Clemente, where we were welcomed as part of
the 5th-anniversary national POW reunion. Barbara and I were married in July
of 1980.
I have been very fortunate since my return home. I have a wonderful marriage
and have experienced great success with my business. Barbara became my
Marketing Director in 1986 at the same time I began adding keynote speaking
to my repertoire of Organizational Development seminars and management
consulting. Barbara and I are also very active in our local community,
currently volunteering for numerous non-profit organizations because we
believe we get back more than we can ever give. I have also taken up the
piano and most recently my brother-in-law has gotten me hooked on golf.
My POW experience was incredibly valuable to me as a life-learning process.
It has enriched me immeasurably, though I would never recommend it to
others. I still get a kick out of a beautiful blue sky, the ocean,
mountains, flowers and even turning the knob on a door to walk through and
go anywhere I want. I learned the importance of community from our
experience, that people who work together can survive and succeed under even
the most powerful oppression and adversity. I also learned the importance of
love in overcoming hate, peace in overcoming conflict or war and respecting
all life as inherently important and worthy of preservation.
March, 1997
Phillip Butler retired from the United States Navy as a Commander. He and
his wife Barbara reside in California.
***************************************************
It certainly makes for an interesting question:
What do you think?
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luv2read
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One reason McCain chose Palin was to draw in the disaffected and die-hard female Hillary supporters who won't have anything to do with Obama. Photos like the ones appearing on this MB are disrespectful to Mrs. Palin and do both her and the RNC a disservice as many women will find them offensive and may in fact repel them rather than draw them in. Posting garbage like this just solidifies the stereotype of the GOP good ole boy..pick a woman to get the female vote but pick a looker that the guys can hoot and holler over. Get your hormones in check and get beyond APPEARANCE. Try to help YOUR party by giving examples of her grit, substance and capabilities, if they exist. Convince the opposition to come over to YOUR side and vote for her. You aren't doing her any favors with this sexist tripe. Grow up and wipe the drool off your chins.
Buster
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Yes I do/did..the guy smoking a cig and not drinking Moosehead Beer was the dead give away, huh?....was only a metphorical humor in light of her strong conservitive views.
Buster
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Quite the American Hero..I salute him.
Buster
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Yes perhaps, but there is a difference though, Sarah is sincere
SkyPilot
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Just curious, what is your definition of a Neo-Con... as opposed to a traditional conservative?
SkyPilot
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It's sad to see an honored individual like this being used in this way. McCain's service record is not in question, so why use a former POW to attempt a take down? If the Soros group is really offended by this approach, then it seems to be slightly disingenuous to attempt it.
The sad result is this fellow will have traded honor for smear. An unfitting bookend for such a brave hero.Braveheart
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Did Obama get that DNC bounce ? NO
Why did Obama stay only a few points ahead of McCain - Sarah Palin!!!
Next week McCain/Obama even or McCain ahead by 3+ points why Palin.
Obama torn apart yup the Dems just found out they can have all the Media bias to promote their unqualified candidate and forgot that the media don't vote and while they are trying to sell this man of "HOPE" it is more like "HYPE".
Sarah Palin just kicked the shi* out of Obama and the media in 30 minutes. She was calm and had a smile on her face while doing it. I wonder is Michelle Obama happy now that her husband can write his 3rd book about how he lost an election because his wife didn't want Hillary Clinton as VP and the DNC with Obama were exposed as frauds.
I think Chris Matthews was crying !!! LMAO
Buster
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Good question...
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Are You a Neocon?[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]by Daniel McCarthy[/FONT][FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Regular readers of LRC or other right-of-center sites are sure to have seen terms like "neoconservative" and "paleo-libertarian" from time to time. A quick Google search can explain what the words mean, but definitions don’t really answer the more interesting and important question – which one are you?[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Naturally you might be neither "paleo" nor "neo." But for those who’d like to find out I devised a quick quiz during a spell of procrastination a few months back. Here it is. After answering twenty questions it’ll give you my impression of which of ten modern American ideologies is the best fit for you, along with links to sites representing the philosophy of each.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]There’s no shortage of political quizzes on the ‘net, but how many others includes "paleoconservative" and "third way" as categories? Not many (or any) that I’ve seen. And to be thoroughly immodest, this quiz is less slanted than most too. I’m a pale-something myself though, so if you find bias that’s where I’m coming from. Other than that the major flaw is that I don’t know modern left-wing ideologies at all well, so the categories of "radical," "liberal" and "third-way" probably are not how leftists would classify themselves.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The quiz questions are mostly about public policy. An alternative method would have been to ask general philosophical questions, or even to ask for interpretations of historical events. I chose the policy-oriented approach because it seemed most straightforward and clear.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Here, in brief, are the ideologies that the quiz examines. You’ll probalby want to take the quiz first though. The sketches below aren’t an answer key, but you can probably deduce from the definitions how someone of a given ideology would answer a particular question. That’s the entire principle of the quiz, after all.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Centrist – Just what it sounds like. Someone who doesn’t have any particularly strong ideological leanings in any direction.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Conservative – Specifically a "fusionist" conservative of the National Review - Heritage Foundation mold. Someone who believes in traditional morality and capitalism, and the need for a limited government to allow both to flourish.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Left-libertarian – The quiz uses a mild definition of a left-libertarian, an anti-statist who is somewhat fearful of corporate and religious influence on public life.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Liberal – Supports economic regulation to promote social justice and takes a progressive stance toward moral or cultural issues.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Libertarian – A libertarian opposes most or all government activites. Does not favor much or any government support for either moral or economic systems.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Neoconservative – A "neocon" is more inclined than other conservatives toward vigorous government in the service of the goals of traditional morality and pro-business policies. Tends to favor a very strong foreign policy of America as well.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Paleoconservative – "Paleocons" want less US involvement in foeign affairs than other conservatives and oppose mass immigration. They are also more favorably disposed toward the South and the idea of secession, or at least decentralization, than neoconservatives.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Paleo-libertarian – Similar to other libertarians except for oppostion to mass immigration, and shares the paleocon appreciation of the South.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Radical – Critical of bouregois morality and strongly opposed to capitalism and willing to use state power to achieve desired ends.[/FONT]
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Third-way – More supportive of foreign intervention than liberals and less supportive of economic regulation, coupled with more-or-less progressive social views. "Third-way" is to liberal what neoconservative is to conservative.[/FONT]
Question yourself as to what you are...
http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=zeron
Steadygain
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Last night I thought the others talked on and on in circles and it just sounded like a bunch of junk - so I'd change the channel and come back here and there.
Then SARAH came on and we were on top of the world. We both thought, too bad she's not running for President. But I reminded Ann that only after we get her in Office and she shows herself as a good VP will she be "most ready" to take over the next time around.
My family was very impressed.
BTW Buster - when I read things like "labels that go over my head" - I just blow it off; so when I first read the post expressing these labels "it made me lose sight of whatever he was saying".
Buster
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Just fodder for thought Steady, Now you can be in the know and have a mental reference to what people mean by these labels.- Status
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