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Just recently the both the state house and senate in Florida passed resolutions that would forbid driling for oil off the coast. A few federal reps also supported that measure.

It just goes to show you that many want inexpensive gasoline, and want it on there own terms ... usually that means without any compromise or sacrifice on there own part. And not that it matters, but the Florida state house and senate are predominently Republican as far as politics goes.

Chances are the cost of oil/gasoline has not hurt the state's tourist industry which centers around the beaches and the Orlando metro area. I could see the market falling if that were the case, but it seemed to fall mostly on the feedback about retail sales, Walmart, etc.

Back to school retail sales will be up in August ... and that will be reported in September IMHO. The September market, bucking history will be up ... just like the January market bucked history being down. By September fuel forecasts should be clearer as well.
 
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It's got to get really bad first and we arn't close to really bad yet. Point is some of them are thinking about it. Self-preservation the thing that war's are made of.
 
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I think those little countries are too greedy not to sell their product. Besides, if we don't get it from one country, we'll just get ot from another.

Question---- How would OPEC react to one of their countries limiting oil output???
 
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I did read a article that due to the new light shed on increased oil consumption some counties are trying to set limits on what they export. Seem that their citizens are getting concerned that exporting all of their natural resources will come back to haunt them. So could we start seeing some countries closing off the taps a little in order to save some back. Natural resources are limited and valuable only if you have them. One country mentioned was Canadian natural gas. Coal is king baby. Arch Coal is spinning off a new division that is producing just low sulfur coal. Most of those new Power Plants built in the last 5 years where Natural Gas. Some coal fired plants were switched over to LNG because it was cheaper and less EPA concerns. Will we be seeing a shift back to COAL?

Check out this link about T. Boone Pickens. He likes the COAL!!!

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CNBCTV/Articles/Dispatches/P114088.asp
 
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Right again JonnieB1!!! That’s why our oil companies likey the Arab oil. That’s why I like the Arab oil!!! Low recovery cost, cheap labor, big profits. Save our American wells for when the price per barrel is much higher. Makes good business sense. Buy the cheaper Arab and Venezuelan oil to refine first.
 
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I think $4/bbl to lift or get the oil out of the ground may be a reasonable number for mid east oil where all you have to do is punch a somewhat shallow hole, stick a straw in the ground and suck it out, but for theUS offshore $4/bbl is to low.

Offshore US produces upwards of 30% of toal US oil and 25% of total US gas. To calculate the lifting costs you need to factor in the very high investment a company makes to acquire a lease, the $ they spend to comply with extensive regulations, and then they need to drill and produce. A significant and growing % of US offshore production is coming from deepwater Gulf areas. This is water depths greater then 1,000 ft, sometimes much greater. Exploration is taking place today in water depths exceeding 11,000 ft or 2 miles. The costs here are much higher. I am not saying that big oil is not making huge profits today, but it costs them in select areas way more then $4/bbl to get it out of the ground.............
 
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The Technician wrote:
Do you know it costs $4/bbl of oil to get it out of the ground and put it in a barrel (Bill O'Reilly).....now where is that other $59/bbl going???

I think there is a bit of profit taken here.....15 times the cost....



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Preach’n to the choir!!! Here’s a link with some killer graph’s. Funny how the oil companies where make’n money when oil was $15 - $35 a barrel. Boy are they make’n the money now!!!!! How can they not be? Got roll with it!!!

http://www.wtrg.com/prices.htm
 
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Do you know it costs $4/bbl of oil to get it out of the ground and put it in a barrel (Bill O'Reilly).....now where is that other $59/bbl going???

I think there is a bit of profit taken here.....15 times the cost....



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Oil May Rise for a Fifth Week on Demand, Survey Shows (Update3)
Aug. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil may climb for a fifth straight week, its longest run of gains since March, as increased fuel demand saps stockpiles and pushes the price to a record, a Bloomberg survey showed.

Thirty-eight of 69 analysts and strategists surveyed, or 55 percent, said oil will gain next week. Twenty-four, or 35 percent, said prices will fall and seven forecast little change.

Global petroleum product use will rise 2 percent, or 1.6 million barrels a day, this year, the International Energy Agency said in a report yesterday. The agency also cut its 2005 non-OPEC supply forecast by about 200,000 barrels a day. Oil in New York rose above $66 a barrel for the first time today.

``Demand growth is likely to accelerate,'' said Dariusz Kowalczyk, a senior investment strategist at CFC Securities Ltd. in Hong Kong. ``GDP growth is picking up in the U.S., Eurozone and Japan.''

Crude oil for September delivery on the New York Mercantile Exchange added 8 cents, or 0.1 percent, to $65.88 a barrel at 11:14 a.m. in London, after earlier climbing to a record $66.13, the highest for the contract nearest expiry since trading began in 1983. The price has surged 45 percent in the past year.

Futures gained $3.49, or 5.6 percent, to $65.80 a barrel, the highest closing price on Nymex in the four days through yesterday.

Last week, 24 of 48 respondents said oil would fall. Nineteen of the past 32 surveys have correctly forecast the market's direction.

Demand Growth

The IEA said oil prices above $60 a barrel have done little to hurt economic growth or world oil demand so far. China's oil consumption is expected to rise 4.9 percent to 6.75 million barrels a day this year, and 7.5 percent in 2006, the report said. China is the biggest oil consumer after the U.S.

The U.S. economy may grow at a 4.1 percent annual pace this quarter, according to the median estimate of economists surveyed by Bloomberg. The economy expanded at a 3.4 percent rate from April through June and has been growing faster than other major economies.

Europe's economy may expand at the fastest pace in almost two years by the end of 2005 as a weakening euro buoys exports, the European Commission said yesterday. The economy of the dozen nations sharing the euro will probably expand about 0.6 percent in the fourth quarter and 0.4 percent in the third, the Brussels-based commission said.

OPEC Production
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OPEC, which produces more than a third of the world's oil, increased output by 285,000 barrels a day to an average 29.6 million last month, the IEA said. The group had less than 2 million barrels a day of spare production capacity in July, the bulk in Saudi Arabia, according to Bloomberg estimates.

OPEC raised its official output ceiling by 500,000 barrels to 28 million barrels a day on July 1.

The Arab oil embargo in 1973 prompted a surge in prices the following year. The Iranian revolution of 1979 and the country's war against Iraq in the 1980s sent the cost of a barrel for U.S. refiners to $35.24 in 1981, according to the Energy Department. That's about $75 in today's dollars.

``It's misleading to draw a comparison between what is happening now and what happened in 1973 and 1974,'' said Simon Hayley, senior international economist at Capital Economics in London. ``Even if the price was the same in real terms, industrialized economies aren't as dependent on oil as they used to be. If we got into three-figure oil prices, that might start to have an impact'' on the world economy.

Gasoline Stockpiles

Oil futures surged after an Energy Department report on Aug. 10 showed that refinery shutdowns reduced gasoline stockpiles. Supplies of the motor fuel fell 2.1 million barrels, or 1 percent, to 203 million, the lowest since November. Consumption was up 1.4 percent in the four weeks ended Aug. 5 from a year earlier, according to the department.

Refiners operated at 95 percent of capacity, down 0.8 percentage point from the previous week, the report showed. Units at refineries run by Chevron Corp., BP Plc, Valero Energy Corp., Exxon Mobil Corp. and Sunoco Inc. have had unplanned shutdowns in recent weeks.

The decline in motor fuel supplies also pushed gasoline futures and pump prices to records.

`Supply Threats'

``The market remains preoccupied with supply threats and signs that U.S. demand has not yet dissipated as a result of high prices,'' said Marshall Steeves, an analyst with Refco Inc. in New York.

Crude-oil stockpiles rose 2.8 million barrels to 320.8 million last week, the Energy Department report showed. Imports jumped an average 101,000 barrels a day to 11.06 million, the second-highest ever. Some analysts said that rising crude-oil imports will lead to further inventory increases and reduce prices.

The U.S. consumes 25 percent of the world's crude oil and more than half of that is used to make gasoline.

``High imports could help boost petroleum inventories for a second consecutive week,'' said Jason Schenker, an economist at Wachovia Corp. in Charlotte. ``On the natural gas side of the equation, cooler weather this week may allow for a slightly greater inventory injection to show up next week. Both of these factors could be bearish for prices.''

High natural gas prices have helped support crude oil. Some factories and power plants can change from gas to oil-based fuels depending on cost. Natural gas rose to a 29-month high yesterday on concern that heat in the U.S. will cut the pace at which utilities store the fuel for winter.
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To contact the reporters on this story:Mark Shenk in New York at [email]mshenk1@bloomberg.net[/email]; Will Kennedy in Singapore at [email]wkennedy3@bloomberg.net[/email].
Last Updated: August 12, 2005 06:17 EDT
 
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Crude Oil Futures Rise Above $66 on U.S. Refinery Breakdowns
Aug. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil rose above $66 a barrel for the first time after a fire at a Sunoco Inc. pipeline in Texas and a power failure at ConocoPhillips's Illinois refinery raised concern about shortages in U.S. fuel supplies.

``The U.S. refineries have had an abnormal amount of breakdowns over the last week or two,'' said Kurt Barrow, an energy consultant at Purvin & Gertz Inc. in Singapore. ``Part of that is due to the fact they're being run very hard.''

Crude oil for September delivery rose as much as 31 cents, or 0.5 percent, to $66.11 a barrel, the highest for the contract closest to expiration since trading began in 1983 on the New York Mercantile Exchange. It was at $65.95 at 8:09 a.m. London time in electronic trading.

Oil prices may rise further next week as demand for gasoline and other fuels increases, a Bloomberg survey of 55 analysts and strategists showed. Global petroleum product use, including gasoline, will rise 2 percent, or 1.6 million barrels a day, this year, the International Energy Agency said yesterday.

Gasoline for September delivery rose as much as 1.32 cents, or 0.7 percent, to $1.963 a gallon, the highest since the contract began trading in 1984. Heating oil rose as much as 1.23 cents, or 0.7 percent, to a record $1.9108 a gallon. It was last at $1.9035.

The disruptions at Sunoco and ConocoPhillips, the largest U.S. refiner, are among at least 14 reported since July 20. Shutdowns and rising demand left U.S. gasoline inventories 2.5 percent lower than a year ago, the Energy Department said Aug. 10.

`Rash of Problems'

``It's more the refinery issues than anything else'' that are driving oil prices, said Mike Armbruster, co-founder of Altavest Worldwide Trading Inc. in Laguna Hills, California. ``There's been a rash of problems lately.'

Oil prices today are 45 percent higher than a year ago, having gained 36 percent the past three months on concern refiners would strain to meet summer gasoline demand and store heating fuel for the Northern Hemisphere winter.

Brent crude oil for September settlement was up 9 cents at $65.47 a barrel on London's International Petroleum Exchange.

Prices also gained after two hurricanes and a tropical storm disrupted supplies from the Gulf of Mexico last month.

Crude oil yesterday rose 90 cents, or 1.4 percent, to close at $65.80 after the International Energy Agency reduced its estimate of output by Russia and other non-OPEC producers. It had risen as high as $66.

ConocoPhillips

ConocoPhillips, the largest U.S. refiner, said a power cut shut some units at its Wood River plant, its largest, and it was ``working to regain normal operations.'' The plant, which can process 306,000 barrels a day, had a fire in a processing unit after the power failure, the Wood River Fire Department said.

Sunoco, the largest refiner in the U.S. Northeast, said yesterday the pipeline near Lufkin caught fire after being ruptured by workers. The pipeline, operated by one of its units, carries crude from Nederland, near the Gulf of Mexico, to Longview, Texas.

Units at refineries run by Chevron Corp., BP Plc, Valero Energy Corp., Exxon Mobil Corp. and Murphy Oil Corp. also had unplanned shutdowns in recent weeks.

Refiners are straining to meet gasoline demand, which in the four weeks ended Aug. 5 was up 1.4 percent from a year earlier. Increased consumption runs through the Labor Day holiday on Sept. 5, a period when Americans take summer vacations.

Gasoline Demand

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U.S. gasoline inventories fell 2.1 million barrels to 203.1 million last week, the lowest since November, and their sixth straight decline, the Energy Department said Aug. 10.

Oil prices may not weaken with the end of the driving season, Altavest's Armbruster said. Traders are concerned some U.S. refiners are planning winter shutdowns to retool their plants to comply with new product specifications effective from the start of 2006, he said.

The IEA cut its forecast for non-OPEC oil production by about 200,000 barrels a day, prompted by shutdowns in the Gulf of Mexico and the North Sea. Citigroup Inc., the world's largest financial- services company, raised its oil-price forecasts for the third and fourth quarters to $60 a barrel, saying there is no supply cushion.

Demand Peak

Global demand will peak at an average 85.9 million barrels a day in the fourth quarter, the Paris-based IEA said yesterday, unchanged from its forecast a month earlier. Still, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries will need to pump 29.2 million barrels a day, the IEA said, 300,000 barrels more than its forecast previously. OPEC is pumping 30.4 million barrels a day, the group said in a statement Aug. 9.

Spare oil production capacity amounts to 2 percent of demand, down from 5 percent, which existed for much of the last 10 years, according to the Citigroup report.
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Japan's Current-Account Surplus Declines on Rising Oil Prices

By Stanley White DOW JONES NEWSWIRES August11,20056:47a.m.

TOKYO -- Japan's current-account surplus fell for the second straight month in June from the prior year, the government said Thursday, as rising prices for oil and other commodities inflated the bill for the country's imports.

The surplus in the current account, the broadest measure of Japan's trade with the rest of the world, fell 15.3% from the year earlier to Yen 1.087 trillion ($9.82 billion) before seasonal adjustment, data from the Ministry of Finance showed.

In May, Japan's current-account surplus fell 19.5% from the prior year, but it rose 5.2% from the year earlier in April.

The current account measures trade in goods, services, tourism and investment. It is calculated by determining the difference between Japan's income from foreign sources against payments on foreign obligations and excludes net capital investment.

Some economists say that Japan's current-account surplus may shrink more in months ahead, but this could be a positive sign as it shows the economy is relying less on exports and more on internal demand.

The trade surplus in June, which is a major component of the current-account surplus, fell 23.1% from the prior year to Yen 999 billion.

Imports for the month rose 13.1% to Yen 4.232 trillion, compared with a 3.7% rise in exports to Yen 5.231 trillion.

The bill for Japan's imports of oil soared 48.5% from a year earlier amid rising oil prices, according to Japan's merchandise trade balance released last month.

The merchandise trade balance measures goods that pass through customs, while the trade balance in the current account measures the flow of goods based on settled contracts.

In June, oil cost $49.40 a barrel, up 33% from the prior year, according to the Petroleum Association of Japan.

Japan's exports for the month rose due to higher shipments of steel and automobiles, earlier data from Japan's merchandise trade balance showed.

For the first half of this year, Japan's current-account surplus fell 8.9% from the same period a year earlier to Yen 8.752 trillion. The goods and services surplus in the six months to June fell 27% to Yen 3.913 trillion.
 
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Oil Hits Nearly $65 a Barrel, Putting Pressure on Stocks

By E.S. Browning Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL August11,2005

After pushing to what would have been a new five-month high, the Dow Jones Industrial Average slipped on surging oil prices.

As high as 10719.41 about an hour after trading began, the Dow industrials finished down 21.26 points, or 0.20%, at 10594.41. The average has fallen 1.8% this year.

Stocks began the day with a surge toward their recent highs, based on strong profits at American International Group and on general optimism following strong quarterly profits from many companies. The Standard & Poor's 500-stock index came within three points of a four-year high.

Then some investors began to worry about oil, as well as higher interest rates. They decided to cash in some of their recent gains.

"The market was trading fairly well, close to its highs, and then oil shot up and took off, and the market started to slide," said Mark Donahoe, head of stock trading at Minneapolis brokerage house Piper Jaffray. "People are concerned about the impact on the overall economy. That's what really turned it."

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Crude-oil futures jumped $1.83 to $64.90, another high, although still below the inflation-adjusted record of $94.77 hit in 1980. A government report showed that gasoline supplies fell last week, stoking fears that refinery problems are restricting supplies. Reflecting the supply concerns, crude is up 49% this year and has hit a new high in five of the past eight trading sessions.

After the Federal Reserve raised interest rates again at its policy meeting Tuesday, many investors concluded that it will continue raising rates in the future, so that worries over rising rates could weigh on stocks in the months to come.

The S&P 500 fell 0.18%, or 2.25 points, to 1229.13, still up 1.4% this year. The Nasdaq Composite Index, with its many technology stocks, fell 0.75%, or 16.38 points, to 2157.81, now down 0.8% for 2005.

Outside the U.S., stocks advanced in dollar terms. The Dow Jones World Stock Index, excluding U.S. stocks, rose 1.5%, or 2.62 points, to 181.97.

In major U.S. market action:

Major stock indexes retreated. But on the New York Stock Exchange, where 1.67 billion shares traded, 1,908 stocks rose and just 1,384 fell.

Bond prices declined. The 10-year Treasury note fell 2/32, or 63 cents for each $1,000 invested, pushing the yield up to 4.398%. The 30-year bond was down 2/32 to yield 4.580%.

The dollar weakened.
Late in New York, the currency traded at 110.73 yen, down from 111.99 yen, while the euro rose against the dollar to $1.2370 from $1.2369.
 
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Foiled Bid Stirs Worry for U.S. Oil
By JAD MOUAWAD August 11, 2005

When Cnooc, the Chinese government-owned oil company, dropped its bid to buy
Unocal this month, it said political opposition in Washington had scuttled the plan. The question oil companies now face is whether they might suffer similar political retribution in their own dealings with foreign governments.

The fate of Unocal was finally settled yesterday when a majority of the company's shareholders approved a takeover offer from
Chevron worth about $18 billion. The battle has left a bitter taste among many in the oil and gas industry because of the hostility displayed by lawmakers and the consequences this might have for United States oil companies worldwide.

Unocal's vote ends months of uncertainty after Cnooc's takeover attempt ignited a lobbying and political battle in Washington led by Chevron's allies in Congress. The struggle surrounding the takeover highlights how the question of access to oil and gas reserves remains one of the most sensitive and pressing faced by the industry. Yesterday, crude oil prices touched a new high of $65 a barrel in New York. [Page C7.]

"It's a tremendous precedent-setter for a government to interfere and declare that national security is at stake," said Daniel Yergin, the president of Cambridge Energy Research Associates, an oil consultancy. "What is this going to mean for American oil companies from Algeria to Zanzibar?"

Governments from oil-producing countries like Russia and Venezuela try to put pressure on foreign corporations when oil prices are high. Other producers, like Mexico or Saudi Arabia, simply bar foreign companies from investing in their oil or gas sectors. In each case, the position of the United States government is fairly consistent: free markets are the best guarantee for the future availability of energy supplies.

But that position has been partly undermined by recent actions in Congress over Cnooc. Representative Richard Pombo, a Republican from California whose district includes Chevron's headquarters, argued that the Chinese bid posed a threat to national security and successfully steered an amendment into the energy bill specifically aimed at stalling the Cnooc bid for months.

Other legislators, like Byron L. Dorgan, a Democratic senator from North Dakota, said they opposed Cnooc because China's energy sector did not operate in a free market. That - and other measures considered by Congress - convinced Cnooc that it had no chance of successfully completing its takeover.

"What this misguided policy did was to say the United States will not advocate fair trade when it comes to American assets," said David L. Goldwyn, a former assistant secretary of energy during the Clinton administration and the co-editor of "Energy and Security: Toward a New Foreign Policy Strategy."

"That may push China into a more competitive stance rather than a more cooperative one," he said.

Mr. Goldwyn also said it might undermine the United States when it requested more access for foreign investors to the nationalized oil sector of Saudi Arabia. The behavior of the United States, he said, is "a little hypocritical."

But for David J. O'Reilly, the chief executive of Chevron, the fight over Unocal will not sour his company's relations with Cnooc, a partner in offshore drilling in China. For him, the problem with the Cnooc bid for Unocal was its reliance on Chinese government financing, not political interference in Washington.

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As a sign of the uneasiness felt in corporate America, most business leaders in the United States have been unusually quiet about the conflict, treading a cautious line between not alienating lawmakers in Washington and not appearing critical of China's intents.

Still, one executive summed up how some in the oil industry felt about political involvement. Lee R. Raymond, the chief executive of
Exxon Mobil, said early in the takeover battle that it would be a "big mistake" for Congress to interfere with the Cnooc bid because it might backfire on American companies seeking to do business abroad. "If you start to put inefficiencies in the system, then all of us pay for that," Mr. Raymond said.

Jerome A. Cohen, a law professor specializing in China at New York University, said that once Chevron played the political card in Washington, it was hard for it to rein in its supporters. "Chevron itself is conflicted," Mr. Cohen said. "They have allowed themselves to get too far into the anti-China crowd."

So far, there is little to suggest that American companies have suffered. For one, China, in the wake of the Cnooc defeat, has adopted a low-key tone. And developing countries usually need major oil companies to develop their resources because they can bring both technological expertise as well as financing capital.

Unocal will provide a major boost to Chevron as big oil companies find it increasingly difficult to replace both reserves and production. The merged company will increase its proven reserves by 15 percent, to 13 billion barrels of oil-equivalent, and expand oil and gas production to three million barrels a day.

While its oil output has declined each year since 2000, Chevron expects the merger to raise production 6 percent a year from 2005 to 2009. More than 77 percent of Unocal's shareholders backed Chevron's bid.

In Washington, the issue of overseeing foreign acquisitions more vigorously will resurface as a proposal by Senator Richard C. Shelby, Republican of Alabama, that would give Congress the power to block a foreign takeover of American assets. That amendment, tucked in the military appropriations bill, is expected to be examined in the fall.

Currently, only the president can block a takeover on national security grounds, something that has happened only once - in 1990, when the first Bush administration blocked the sale of a Seattle-based airplane parts maker, Mamco Manufacturing, to a military-related agency of the Chinese government.

"There are going to be many residual effects in Congress," said Nancy McLernon, the deputy director of the Organization for International Investment, a business association that represents American subsidiaries of foreign companies. It did not represent Cnooc.

"The Bush administration breathed a big sigh of relief when Cnooc withdrew its offer but there's more to come that could change the cross-border M.& A. environment," she said, referring to mergers and acquisitions. "That's something the whole world will be watching."
 
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