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Wouldn't one of these or both of these be a nice Christmas present for all TSP'ers from "The grinches that stole the IFT" Maybe the FRTIB would find that their hearts grew 3 times larger that day.:D
Hearts?! The FRTIB got hearts??!! ;):rolleyes::laugh:

Lady
 
Well the market is unpredictable as ever. Good Luck to those currently taking a chance. I wish I could have a warm fuzzy to jump in and reduce my negative numbers but not yet.:(

Our FTRIB has posted the October meeting minutes. Here is the link: http://www.frtib.gov/pdf/minutes/2008Oct.pdf

This "buy and hold" fantasy they have may work in a Bull Market but in the current market they are clueless. I know they had no idea that the market would go in the direction it has but the timing of restricting us to 2 IFT's has hurt all of us. On page 5 and 6 they talk about the "I" fund. An interesting read. The statement made at the top of page 6 really shows how clueless they are. In my opinion. Got to go to a meeting later.:D
 
...Our FTRIB has posted the October meeting minutes. Here is the link: http://www.frtib.gov/pdf/minutes/2008Oct.pdf

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Very interesting reading, Nasa, thanks for posting it! I thought the two most interesting passages were these:

"... We cannot control prices but we did limit the volume of the trades when we imposed interfund transfer limitations ...." (your page 6 reference) and the 25 minutes of closed meeting for "financial and procurement information."

FRTIB gone over to the Dark Side. :rolleyes: :cheesy:

Lady
 
I hope this upcoming vote by Congress to give the BIG 3 a 15B loan doesn't have the same affect that the 700B bailout process had in October. Lets hope the market doesn't tank after Congress votes. Right now Asia is very mixed but Europe is looking good. Lets hope we have a good December. Good luck to all.
 
I notice Speaker Pelosi seems to be in front of the cameras these past few days appearing to be the spokesperson for Congress on the Auto Bailout. She's seems very careful with her words, always saying some kind of package will be forthcoming. I'm sure Congress does not want to look responsible for another October 10 type tanking after govenment decides against something...
 
Well it is October all over again. Promises that a loan/bailout is going to happen and then our politicians have a brain fart and the market tanks. I do not know who is crazier us for staying in the market or our politicians for not realizing what kind of reaction is generated when they they have a brain fart. GGGRRRRRRRR!!!!!!:mad:
 
If I had to give my own prediction, I say we test and bounce off the lower bollinger band which is in the high 780's in less than 3 trading sessions. Usually I'm early so probably go 50 percent in at first opportunity in the 780's then all in around 750. Only for a short ride though, as the market will probably hit news lows in January or Febuary. :sick:

I'm going to bed. If I can really get some sleep.
 
This is from CNNMoney.com
Wall Street focus: Autos and the Fed

Investors consider the outlook for Detroit's Big Three, a likely interest rate cut from the central bank and earnings from Goldman Sachs, Oracle and others.


By Alexandra Twin, CNNMoney.com senior writer
December 13, 2008: 10:24 AM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Investors return Monday for the last full trading week of what has been for many an unbelievable, and unbelievably difficult, year on Wall Street.

"I think, at the very least, the current stock market prices probably already reflect expectations of a depression or a type of recession that is worse than what we are likely to get," said Ken Kam, portfolio manager of the Masters 100 (MOFQX) fund.

However, that doesn't mean investors are ready yet to move back into the market more consistently, he said.

Reports are due this week on housing, manufacturing and consumer prices. Goldman Sachs, Best Buy and Oracle are among the companies expected to report weaker results than they did a year ago.

Also this week, the Federal Reserve is widely expected to cut the fed funds rate, a key short-term interest rate, by a half-percentage point to 0.5%. That would mark the 10th rate cut since 2007.

Amid the housing market collapse, credit market freeze and global recession, stocks have been hit hard.

As of Friday's close, the S&P 500 is down 40% for the year and 44% since closing at an all-time high of 1565.15 in October 2007. The declines had been sharper though late November, with stocks hitting what some market analysts are calling a bear market bottom on Nov. 20.

After hitting that low, the S&P 500 rallied 21% in less than thee weeks. But last week it stalled, as a bailout for the beleaguered automakers hit government gridlock and corporations announced thousands of job cuts amid the recession. (For more details, click here)

Last week the Senate shot down a proposed $14 billion auto bailout bill. But the Treasury Department said it would be willing to give the automakers some of the $700 billion in the bank and Wall Street bailout already approved by Congress. Investors returning to work this week will likely have a better sense of where the automakers stand. And the removal of that uncertainty should help stocks in the short-term. (Full story).

Yet "beyond the automakers, we're still dealing with a weak outlook for the economy," said Bill Stone, chief Investment Strategist, PNC Financial Services Group

In the week ended Dec. 10, investors pulled roughly $2.8 billion out of equity mutual funds, after pulling $12.1 billion out of funds in the previous week. Investors have cashed out of equity mutual funds in 17 of the last 19 weeks.

Economy

Monday: The December NY Empire State index, a regional reading on manufacturing, is expected to improve modestly to a reading of minus 27 from a reading of minus 25 in November. The previous number was the weakest in the survey's seven-year history.

The two-day Federal Reserve policy meeting begins.

Tuesday: Goldman Sachs and Best Buy report earnings before the start of trade. Goldman (GS, Fortune 500) is expected to have lost $3.51 per share versus a profit of $7.01 a share a year ago, according to Thomson Reuters estimates. Best Buy (BBY, Fortune 500) is expected to have earned 25 cents per share versus 53 cents a share a year ago.

Economic reports are due on housing and consumer inflation.

November housing starts are expected to slow to a 730,000 annual unit rate from a 791,000 rate in October. November building permits are expected to have slipped to a 700,000 annual unit rate from 708,000 in October.

The Consumer Price Index (CPI) is expected to have fallen 1.3% in November after dropping 1% in October. Core CPI, which strips out volatile food and energy prices, is expected to have risen 0.1% after dipping 0.1% in the previous month.

The Federal Reserve's policy-setting meeting concludes, with a decision on interest rates due at 2:15 p.m. ET.

Wednesday: Morgan Stanley (MS, Fortune 500) reports quarterly earnings before the start of trade. The company is expected to report a loss of 37 cents per share after reporting a loss of $3.61 a share a year ago.

Thursday: in the early morning, FexEx (FDX, Fortune 500) is expected to report quarterly earnings of $1.57 per share versus $1.54 a share a year ago. Last week, the package delivery firm warned that fiscal 2009 earnings won't meet forecasts because of the recession.

A pair of economic reports are due shortly after the start of trade.The Philadelphia Fed index, the Philly counterpart to Monday's New York manufacturing index, is expected to have dipped to negative 40 from negative 39.3 in the previous month.

The index of leading economic indicators (LEI) is expected to have decreased by 0.5% in November after dropping by 0.8% in the previous month.

After the close of trade, Oracle (ORCL, Fortune 500) is expected to report earnings of 34 cents per share, up from 31 cents a share a year ago.

Friday: The December "triple witching" day, a quarterly event when stock options, equity index options and equity index futures are all expiring simultaneously. This can create increased volatility in the underlying stocks.


Good luck to all still in the market.
 
Found this interesting. Maybe we should keep our fingers crossed.

This is from http://www.govexec.com/


TSP officials face leadership challenges

By Brittany R. Ballenstedt bballenstedt@govexec.com December 15, 2008

Officials overseeing the Thrift Savings Plan have met with a member of President-elect Barack Obama's transition team to discuss leadership issues as well as future changes to the plan, the TSP's legislative director said on Monday.
At a monthly meeting on Dec. 15, TSP Legislative Director Thomas Trabucco said he talked with an Obama representative last week and advised him that all the terms of the Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board's five members have expired. They are serving as holdovers, but can be replaced at any time.
"Our enabling legislation set up staggered terms to support policy continuity and ongoing institutional knowledge through overlapping service at the board level," he said. "These goals are being frustrated at this time."
On a nonpartisan basis, the White House nominates three board members, while the House and Senate each nominate one person. Of the current board, two members' terms have been expired since 2006; the remaining three terms expired in 2007 and earlier this year.
Three of the board's officials -- Alejandro Sanchez, Andrew Saul and Gordon Whiting -- received bipartisan approval from the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee in May, but the Senate leadership pulled the nominations just before the Memorial Day recess, Trabucco said.
The fact that all five board members are currently in holdover status stymies the appointment overlap designed to provide continuity and maintain institutional knowledge of TSP oversight, especially through presidential transitions. With all members in holdover status, the board could experience complete turnover if the nominations are not confirmed by the end of this congressional session.
Trabucco noted that during the last presidential transition from Clinton to Bush, when only two members were serving terms, Clinton made two additional recess appointments on Jan. 3, 2001. "That brought the number of members serving in staggered terms to four during that transition," he said.
TSP officials have apprised Senate leadership and the Bush administration of their concern, according to Trabucco. Members of the Employee Thrift Advisory Council, which consists of labor unions and other federal employee groups, also have written the Senate leadership and the Obama transition teams of their support for the pending board nominees, he said.
"Although the hour is late," he said, "it is my hope that this situation can be addressed in the next few weeks."
Trabucco said TSP officials also advised the Obama representative of legislation that passed the House in July that would have allowed automatic employee enrollment and changed the default fund for indecisive investors. Officials expressed support for those provisions, and he said they were still examining the possibility of adding a Roth option to the TSP.
TSP officials also will be meeting with the new leadership of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee early next year "to get a sense of what their interests are going to be ... and what we've got on our plates for the 111th Congress," Trabucco said. Last week, House Democrats elected Rep. Edolphus Towns of New York to replace Rep. Henry Waxman of California as chairman of the committee, while Republicans voted to confirm Rep. Darrell Issa of California to replace retiring Rep. Tom Davis of Virginia as ranking member.
Meanwhile, officials noted that investments in the TSP fell to $198 billion in November, down from a high of $234 billion in May. "This is not the way we'd like to see things go," said Renee Wilder, director of the TSP's Office of Research and Strategic Planning.
Wilder also said TSP participation dipped in November to 84.4 percent, down from 85 percent in October and a high of 86 percent in May. The participation rate is at its lowest since September 1997, she added.
The number of loans and withdrawals were lower in November than TSP officials anticipated, Wilder said, but still were running slightly higher than in 2007.
"It's a tough time for anybody to be an investor," said Gregory Long, executive director of the plan. "But we are doing our best to communicate with our participants and get through this challenge."
Long added that the board will provide a demonstration of its new Web site redesign at a board meeting in May 2009. Officials said they also plan to examine the financial health of its annuity provider -- Metropolitan Life Insurance Co. -- to determine whether it is licensed in all 50 states. Such licenses would ensure financial protection by state insurance funds, officials said.

I find this part disturbing though.

"Members of the Employee Thrift Advisory Council, which consists of labor unions and other federal employee groups, also have written the Senate leadership and the Obama transition teams of their support for the pending board nominees"
 
If you have been in the F or I funds you have seen some profit this month. Congrats. F .25, C .31, S .44, I .44
I attached my XL program for December that shows how December has gone so far. Just one sheet of 5. Anyone interested I can upload a clean version for 2009.
 
NASA,

Please do. I use and study all of the spreadsheets! This one you have is a quick and easy down and dirty way to see losses or gains!

Thanks!
HappyGL
 
If you have been in the F or I funds you have seen some profit this month. Congrats. F .25, C .31, S .44, I .44
I attached my XL program for December that shows how December has gone so far. Just one sheet of 5. Anyone interested I can upload a clean version for 2009.
Hi my friend! Yes, I'd love to see a clean version for download. Thanks for offering!

Lady
 
WOW!!! What a ride. Now the big question is what happens next. If the Big 3 get their loan we may see another day like today. So what is my next move? Do I jump back to the lilly pad and be happy with my profits so far or do I get GREEEEEEDEEEEE!!!!!????:nuts: What to do?? What to do??
 
Hi my friend! Yes, I'd love to see a clean version for download. Thanks for offering!

Lady


I got the XL spreadsheet done for 2009 but it is to large to attach. It is 389KB. Anybody have any ideas. Or if you want you can PM me and I can E-mail it to you.
 
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