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MrJohnRoss said:
I believe that we DO have a choice on how we can more intelligently invest our hard earned money, and that's by using a well designed timing system that has proven to beat the market year after year.

Look, we all have our opinions. But I simply look at the facts. I've posted my charts and tables here numerous times, showing the results of using a pretty decent timing system that has beaten the market for 5 years straight. It's obviously not perfect, but I can't imagine giving it up in favor of buy and hold.

Birch, if I were in your shoes, I would most likely never sell my core holdings of world dominating dividend payers. (Well.... never say never. LoL). I'd let 'em compound and grow and spin off a nice income stream.



Good luck everyone!
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Well, since Birch and I go back, I guess I'll come to his defense. Since you've joined the autotracker (Oct 17th, 2011) Birch's buy and hold strategy, along with DCA'ing, has beaten you pretty well. You post nice little charts, but until you actually beat a buy and hold strategy year after year, I'd say you don't have a "proven" system. Birch and I have been here a long time and we've seen them come and we've seen them go. Good luck to you, let's hope you are one that actually sticks around, through good times and bad................;)
 
Ummmm... wow.

Let's see... from Oct thru Mar... that makes only 5 months I've been here. If you're saying that because I haven't beaten buy and hold for 5 months, then I must be wrong, then I'd have to say you have a rather myopic viewpoint.

You say that until I actually beat a buy and hold strategy year after year, then I don't have a "proven" system. Do I need to remind you that my system has beaten buy and hold since 2007? Maybe you forgot that part.

Your comment about posting "nice little charts" is rather demeaning, but about what I'd expect from you.

But that's just my opinion.

I could see someone coming to Birch's defense if I had done something wrong, or called him names, but really, come on dude!

If I recall from some of your previous posts, you like to call people out, stir things up, then wonder why things backfire, and you end up alienating yourself when people don't like you.

I really don't have time for negative, energy sucking people. Please go find someone else to bother.

Thank you.
 
I don't think Mr JR was attacking Birch, in fact, he said in his shoes he would likely do the same. Mr JR did offer an alternate perspective to someone who posted a comment in HIS account talk.
 
MrJohnRoss said:
Birch, I love jousting with you here at the Forum! I have a feeling that if we ever got a chance to get together and belly up to the bar, we'd have a great time! I think we're more alike than we are different, even if you are a buy and hold "permabull". It fits your personality to a tee.

Wishing nothing but the best for you, my friend.
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Hmmmm.... maybe he thinks this is dissing BT. What say you BT? Were you offended by our discussion?
 
Have to admit that Cheap Shot Account Talk was perfect timing. :D I thought someone was asking to get banned but it's an actual account. :laugh:
 
MrJohnRoss said:
Ummmm... wow.

Let's see... from Oct thru Mar... that makes only 5 months I've been here. If you're saying that because I haven't beaten buy and hold for 5 months, then I must be wrong, then I'd have to say you have a rather myopic viewpoint.

You say that until I actually beat a buy and hold strategy year after year, then I don't have a "proven" system. Do I need to remind you that my system has beaten buy and hold since 2007? Maybe you forgot that part.

Your comment about posting "nice little charts" is rather demeaning, but about what I'd expect from you.

But that's just my opinion.

I could see someone coming to Birch's defense if I had done something wrong, or called him names, but really, come on dude!

If I recall from some of your previous posts, you like to call people out, stir things up, then wonder why things backfire, and you end up alienating yourself when people don't like you.

I really don't have time for negative, energy sucking people. Please go find someone else to bother.

Thank you.
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Dude, you say you live by the facts. I was just stating facts. I didn't forget anything. I looked at your chart and what you say, does it mean its real? Maybe, maybe not. From your own chart, it doesn't look like you beat the S fund in 2009, which is the fund you seem to always use. Might as well compare apples to apples right? I don't care what you "expect" from me, but I do "expect" facts. Just like you right? ;)

Alienating myself? If you say so. Stir things up? Perhaps some see it that way. Like I've said before, I've been here a long time and have seen many types, let's see if you stick around during bad times.

If you can't handle the truth, then you are right, I should go find someone else "to bother" who can................:rolleyes:
 
Guys, honestly there is plenty of money to be made no matter the approach. We need each other's brain power to stay ahead of the crowd. I built the Birchtree 300 and it will make me wealthy - no doubt about my confidence in that. So let's romp in the Ferdinand arena and have some fun. Could tomorrow be another 200+ day - wouldn't that be too sweet. Get me in at any price is going to be the battle cry real soon. Currently there is no business positioned for robust GDP. Longer term money flow is at all time highs.
 
Birchtree said:
Guys, honestly there is plenty of money to be made no matter the approach. We need each other's brain power to stay ahead of the crowd. I built the Birchtree 300 and it will make me wealthy - no doubt about my confidence in that. So let's romp in the Ferdinand arena and have some fun. Could tomorrow be another 200+ day - wouldn't that be too sweet. Get me in at any price is going to be the battle cry real soon. Currently there is no business positioned for robust GDP. Longer term money flow is at all time highs.
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Oh, cut the crap. I know you're laughing inside. You're gonna bust a gut if you hold it in. :laugh:
 
Intrepid_Timer said:
Dude, you say you live by the facts. I was just stating facts. I didn't forget anything. I looked at your chart and what you say, does it mean its real? Maybe, maybe not. From your own chart, it doesn't look like you beat the S fund in 2009, which is the fund you seem to always use. Might as well compare apples to apples right? I don't care what you "expect" from me, but I do "expect" facts. Just like you right? ;)

Alienating myself? If you say so. Stir things up? Perhaps some see it that way. Like I've said before, I've been here a long time and have seen many types, let's see if you stick around during bad times.

If you can't handle the truth, then you are right, I should go find someone else "to bother" who can................:rolleyes:
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Oh boy...you again? First it was Uptrend to bash on and now JR?

Folks, either you pay for Intrepid Timer's premium service and know all or you suck and your system sucks. I took a look at RevShark's free trial of his service and his service is lower than what buy and hold is currently so does that mean his system isn't proven either?

Maybe since you have a premium service on the board Tom doesn't "moderate" you as strictly, but you coming out of the blue and being rude isn't called for in my book. To be honest I would take JR's reply to you as "get out of my thread and don't come back."
 
MaStA said:
Oh boy...you again? First it was Uptrend to bash on and now JR?

Folks, either you pay for Intrepid Timer's premium service and know all or you suck and your system sucks. I took a look at RevShark's free trial of his service and his service is lower than what buy and hold is currently so does that mean his system isn't proven either?

Maybe since you have a premium service on the board Tom doesn't "moderate" you as strictly, but you coming out of the blue and being rude isn't called for in my book. To be honest I would take JR's reply to you as "get out of my thread and don't come back."
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Your opinion, and I've been banned more than Birchtree for "calling people out". Look, I didn't say anything bad about "MrJohnRoss". I simply stated what he himself said. His system isn't "proven". Once it does, if it does, I'll gladly give up my service and tag along with him. It would sure be a lot less stressful. ;) Until then, you keep perceiving things as you wish and I'll do the same.............
 
Intrepid_Timer said:
Your opinion, and I've been banned more than Birchtree for "calling people out". Look, I didn't say anything bad about "MrJohnRoss". I simply stated what he himself said. His system isn't "proven". Once it does, if it does, I'll gladly give up my service and tag along with him. It would sure be a lot less stressful. ;) Until then, you keep perceiving things as you wish and I'll do the same.............
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Your excuses for your rudeness are childish. People make their threads to talk about THEIR account talk. If JR thinks his system is doing great and he wants to express his happiness in HIS thread then what is the problem? It is still the beginning of the year so we will see if buy and hold works this year, which who knows, maybe it will? I'm sure in the years past that people have earned 25%+ they probably were doing more holding than selling. Furthermore, if you have a problem with people not liking the buy and hold way of life then why don't you bash on Tom for the TSP Talk "motto"?
 
You guys be gentle while my investment adviser (Mindylou) and I go take our afternoon nap - a privilege of retirement. Another day like today and my March wisper number may be in sight. I need to add to my bank holdings real soon. By the way I have my own motto: My friends do let friends buy and hold. And that doesn't seem to cause any problems - afterall it's my money and I can do what I want with it. Snort.
 
Intrepid_Timer said:
Your opinion, and I've been banned more than Birchtree for "calling people out". Look, I didn't say anything bad about "MrJohnRoss". I simply stated what he himself said. His system isn't "proven". Once it does, if it does, I'll gladly give up my service and tag along with him. It would sure be a lot less stressful. ;) Until then, you keep perceiving things as you wish and I'll do the same.............
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I'm still trying to figure out what you contribute to this forum. Now run along and go study charts or something.
 
MaStA said:
Your excuses for your rudeness are childish. People make their threads to talk about THEIR account talk. If JR thinks his system is doing great and he wants to express his happiness in HIS thread then what is the problem? It is still the beginning of the year so we will see if buy and hold works this year, which who knows, maybe it will? I'm sure in the years past that people have earned 25%+ they probably were doing more holding than selling. Furthermore, if you have a problem with people not liking the buy and hold way of life then why don't you bash on Tom for the TSP Talk "motto"?
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You seem to be contradicting yourself....................but whatever. I was't rude and I was only stating fact. If I offended you, I apologize. But thanks for calling me childish, I love being called names from such a mature person.............;)
 
I'm sorry if my post contributed to this conflict.

One thing I have learned in my short time here, is that no one system works for everyone as we operate with different investment time horizons and have varying tolerances for risk.

I was exclusively a buy and holder. Now I'm exploring other avenues with the TSP portion of my investments. I don't see that as a competition between approaches. They're just different.
 
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