Marijuana is the Debt buster we need.

And yet it's okay to be legal..who will pay for this?...can you say hypocrital double standards? (end of story)

Big beer drinkers at big risk for stomach cancer ​

People who drink two to three beers a day for many years have a 75 percent increased risk of gastric cancer, and those who have the gene variant called rs1230025 but aren't heavy drinkers have a 30 percent higher risk of gastric cancer, compared with people who drank less than a beer daily, the study showed..

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42462416/ns/health-cancer/?gt1=43001
 
look it's an illegal drug - end of story

Look people, this is an illegal drug - end of story:

It is not legal. The fact that we have puppet debate captain as president who made yet another idiot move, without checking his facts with the FDA, doesn't make it legal. As a drug, there are substitutes that should be taken only under a doctor's care and choice.

As a recreational activity, too bad for you, and very bad for your health. We do not allow drugs to be somehow reclassified beyond the FDA as....what now? a food? no can't do that....that's the FDA's authority too. Hmmmm, what would you call it?

In fact, No state, no city, has authority that supercedes the FDA. WE, as voters, don't have that authority. The states don't get to "allow" smoked drugs when the federal government does not. Perhaps a constitutional amendment - - - and then - - - there are much larger fish to fry.....and more likely to pass. This would not.

Bubbye, bammy, take your tokes with you.....
 
The reason why I said "can't tax it" is because of the "Debt buster" in the title. It'll lower our future expenses, but it won't bust the debt. When I see bust debt, I think of paying off current debt, which takes revenue.
 
Silverbird said:
How can we tax a plant that you can grow in your backyard?
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Oh come! This is the 21st century isnt it? The goobermint has unlimited resources to enforce compliance. Who said your money was yours? Who said your backyard was yours??

Satellites, GPS...surprise its Candid Camera!

And that old fashioned favorite...

Informants + Police = you are busted.

I See employment prospects ahead, hooray! The Community Cops Union brotherHood, thugs and goons policing the alleys peeking over your fence for illegal weed.

Hey, our socialist paradise can do anything, right?
 
I've also said that we live in opposite land. What ever "is" is the opposite of what "should be."
 
PessOptimist said:
Very, very interesting thread.


It will be interesting to watch it unfold.
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Here's how its gonna unfold: a) obama finishes term b) republican elected on platform that includes, among other things (cap gains tax breaks ad nauseum), getting rid of dope, again.
c) said republican closes sics the Fed prosecuters on growers/dispenseries; and that will be that.
 
It's a start..

It's also a shame so many good people's lives are tarnished for having been or are in jail for a few harmless oz's of pot..while hard core drug dealers, meth pushers, crack pushers and child molesters and rapist are set free on society again....Lets not forget all the legit pharmaceuticals that are being abused and pushed by doctors..but those are legal like booze and are killing people or ruining their lives and family's lives..but it's legal...Double standards..don't just luv em..?:rolleyes::suspicious:
 
Silverbird said:
How can we tax a plant that you can grow in your backyard? All that will happen is 1) Cartels will stay in business by skirting the tax. 2) People will grow "premium" weed in their backyards - it's a lot easier and less risky than brewing your own liquor. Even an amateur can brew their own beer with a home kit and even though it just gets a tad expensive to have to buy the kit every time, plants propogate so no kit to buy after the first time.

This is not going to be a money maker for the Government.
Unfortunately, the Cartels will still make money - they will just move on to Meth or some other drug.

By the way, if this ever happens we will need to have DUI percentages for marijuana - you should not toke and drive.
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Best post in the thread. Rep for you.

This is not going to be a money maker for the Government.
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And it shouldn't make money for the Government. What business is it of theirs?

By the way, if this ever happens we will need to have DUI percentages for marijuana - you should not toke and drive.
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I've always said that this is the real reason it's not decriminalized. ..because there IS NO breathalyzer possible. The THC stays in the system long after the user is no longer high.
 
Silverbird said:
How can we tax a plant that you can grow in your backyard? All that will happen is 1) Cartels will stay in business by skirting the tax. 2) People will grow "premium" weed in their backyards - it's a lot easier and less risky than brewing your own liquor. Even an amateur can brew their own beer with a home kit and even though it just gets a tad expensive to have to buy the kit every time, plants propogate so no kit to buy after the first time.

This is not going to be a money maker for the Government.
Unfortunately, the Cartels will still make money - they will just move on to Meth or some other drug.

And that's where our LEO's can do their jobs..and bust these people.

By the way, if this ever happens we will need to have DUI percentages for marijuana - you should not toke and drive.
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I think you are right on most of this..except not everybody that wants to smoke will be able to grow..It is time consuming and troublesome to get a good harvest just for your own use...The quality farmers with grade 'A" plants is where the market will yield the tax revenue...You eluded to this as home brewers do also..so yes, there will be back yard farmers and maybe part of the legislation that can get money from these folks will be in the way of permits and licenses...

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How can we tax a plant that you can grow in your backyard? All that will happen is 1) Cartels will stay in business by skirting the tax. 2) People will grow "premium" weed in their backyards - it's a lot easier and less risky than brewing your own liquor. Even an amateur can brew their own beer with a home kit and even though it just gets a tad expensive to have to buy the kit every time, plants propogate so no kit to buy after the first time.

This is not going to be a money maker for the Government.
Unfortunately, the Cartels will still make money - they will just move on to Meth or some other drug.

By the way, if this ever happens we will need to have DUI percentages for marijuana - you should not toke and drive.
 
Re: a little less than two years of this farce....

Show-me said:
I understand your point but I fear you are being a little naive. We are a nation of casual drug users and many of them have a prescription from lacks Doctors or are gaming the Doctors. Of 100 people that you come into contact regularly how many of them do you think are clean as a whistle. My point is why spend billions chasing them like we did during prohibition.All those drug coming across the southern boarder is no different than all the liquor that came across the norther boarder. We are pissing in the wind. Collect the tax and light it up for all I care.
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case in point, I'd guess even Birch would be for shutting these down.

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/state/governor-rick-scott-doesn%27t-want-pill-mill-database


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_y0n_sU5_E
 
Re: a little less than two years of this farce....

amoeba said:
a little less than two years of this farce remain:What the eff was Obama thinking when he issued a directive to Federal prosecutors not to pursue "medical" users or dispensories of smoked marijuana?Probably just ignorant. It's not hard to believe....having had 8 years of GW.....but at least on this matter he wasn't anywhere near as insane as what Obama did. This puts us back in the realm of marketing cocaine as cough medicine....(and that probably had more benefit)....but we know better now, or do we? We can't have a country of casual drug users under the guise of self-medicating for a constellation of typical conditions which are best treated by something else. If it is the active ingredient in marijuana that is needed, growing dope in your basement, and administering it to yourself - inhaled with a burnt plant product - ad libitum, makes no sense. Go to a doctor, and your condition will be treated with the medication that best suits the condition. This will end more quickly and immediately as it began....with a republican.
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I understand your point but I fear you are being a little naive. We are a nation of casual drug users and many of them have a prescription from lacks Doctors or are gaming the Doctors. Of 100 people that you come into contact regularly how many of them do you think are clean as a whistle. My point is why spend billions chasing them like we did during prohibition.All those drug coming across the southern boarder is no different than all the liquor that came across the norther boarder. We are pissing in the wind. Collect the tax and light it up for all I care.
 
Re: a little less than two years of this farce....

amoeba said:
We can't have a country of casual drug users under the guise of self-medicating for a constellation of typical conditions which are best treated by something else. If it is the active ingredient in marijuana that is needed, growing dope in your basement, and administering it to yourself - inhaled with a burnt plant product - ad libitum, makes no sense. Go to a doctor, and your condition will be treated with the medication that best suits the condition. This will end more quickly and immediately as it began....with a republican.
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Ha ha ha ! My step mom is an R.N, and I will NEVER forget the time she told me about what she saw working "in the field",(home health ) She said to me " You can't imagine the number of Americans who are on pain And other kinds of PILLS! That was in 1997. I know that in my agency, we have "several" people who are on oxycoton, valum, codon, etc,etc,etc. And get this, they are driving around on this sh*t. So I guess my point is, what's a natural drug gonna hurt? Ah, what do you care?
 
a little less than two years of this farce....

a little less than two years of this farce remain:What the eff was Obama thinking when he issued a directive to Federal prosecutors not to pursue "medical" users or dispensories of smoked marijuana?Probably just ignorant. It's not hard to believe....having had 8 years of GW.....but at least on this matter he wasn't anywhere near as insane as what Obama did. This puts us back in the realm of marketing cocaine as cough medicine....(and that probably had more benefit)....but we know better now, or do we? We can't have a country of casual drug users under the guise of self-medicating for a constellation of typical conditions which are best treated by something else. If it is the active ingredient in marijuana that is needed, growing dope in your basement, and administering it to yourself - inhaled with a burnt plant product - ad libitum, makes no sense. Go to a doctor, and your condition will be treated with the medication that best suits the condition. This will end more quickly and immediately as it began....with a republican.
 
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