Is the 'Iran War' Thread MIA?

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Wimpy

Wimpy

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That would be unfortunate. Any war in the Middle East is going to have a significant impact on our investments, to include the TSP.

I can understand locking a thread if a food fight breaks out and gets out of hand, but I believe the thread should be allowed to remain in the archive for all, who so desire, to peruse.

A great investment of time and energy goes into posting substantive information and if those posts disappear simply because immature people resort to bashing each other with their less expensive posts (in time and energy), instead of bashing the issues, every thread is a potential target for deletion.

Free speech is an important part of any civilized society and the reputations we build or destroy in this process need to be archived for all to see.

However, another important part of any civilized society or community, with like interest, is respect for private property. With that said, I respect the right of the owner of this board to delete my expended time and energy. But my future time and energy is MY private property and I can choose to spend it where I choose. Ain't freedom grand?:)

Maybe the thread has been moved to another location I'm not aware of...if so, please enlighten me and accept my apology for the rant.
 
Just thought I'd echo Whimpy's rant. I don't post that often but I do read that thread regularly. It is a good barometer of oil and general sentiment.
 
It appears to have been deleted rather than closed. I will see if it can be restored, but I don't think it will be reopened regardless. That is unless you want to answer all the email and PM's I get from people complaining about posts. ;)

I'll ask the moderator if it is still available in a soft copy somewhere. I'm not seeing it anywhere.
 
I am still here,but thought it was a good call in ending it.Should it begin again,I would be dissapointed,but would voice my opinion to those of you that are left of CENTER.You are misguided souls.:)
 
Count my vote for "let it die".

If it were ONLY a discussion of "the financial implications of....", I wouldn't have a problem.

Once it becomes "the political implications of....", I'd rather the discussions be monitored and/or killed.

Wanna talk politics? I'm sure you won't have a problem finding a discussion somewhere. I'd just rather not have the closed minded opinions, (at both ends of the spectrum), clutter up otherwise thoughtful discussions here.
 
I would agree with Wimpy as well; both economic and military actions in either Iran, Iraq or anywhere else in the Middle East has an affect on the world markets.
The removal of the thread restricts the speech and information others receive from it. And furthers the perception that a small clique will censor that speech and information.
Almost any thread will wander off topic at times ... and for the past year or so I and others have witnessed that.
Anyone visiting this site has the option to place whoever he or she may think on an ignore list; it is not Big Brother's responsibility to do that.
 
I guess I missed the political stuff. (Ok, some posters political stance is obvious by their choice of links but was it really overt?)

Is there a free for all, anything goes forum? One with a let the reader beware? That's were you put threads that begin to go off on that kind of tangent.
 
The lock seems to have disappeared from this one. Spaf through everyone outta the bar around midnight on June 22nd.
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showthread.php?t=2882
FundSurfer said:
I guess I missed the political stuff. (Ok, some posters political stance is obvious by their choice of links but was it really overt?)

Is there a free for all, anything goes forum? One with a let the reader beware? That's were you put threads that begin to go off on that kind of tangent.
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It sure was not overt.Just a corner of a site,where you could dish your country.I thought the thread should be ended and still think it was a good call by management.I must admit though,it was a closely followed Thread and I enjoyed enlightening some folks.The war just will not materialize,as Islam will never be more than a cult of devils.:)
 
Its a very sad time we live in. The body count continues to rise and the military courts are being kept very busy.
Starting to remind me of another war we once fought. The courts were busy with that one as well, but it ended soon after.
 
We are trying to get away from political opinions here. If you want to talk about the "Iran war", which by the way doesn't exist yet, it should somehow pertain to how it affects our TSP accounts. Otherwise we get people like Machinist Mate passionately jumping in and everyone is fighting over something we really don't need to discuss here. People end up getting banned when it wasn't necessary. Some can discuss this subject rationally - others can't.

Thanks for understanding.

Tom

Isn't there a War Talk.com somewhere? :)
 
Everytime I see that pissant name - Machinist Moron - I bristle with the desire to zip him up in a dark green one of his own. What terrible vibes that were left in that small wake.

Dennis
 
The topic is less about Iran, Iraq or N. Korea, but how the nation's foreign policy affects not only war, but peace and the economy.

Bloomberg columnists write about such things as well.

As far as foreign policy goes, who could say for sure that US foreign policy and business interests with Vietnam doesn't have something to do with 1) purposely rubbing mainland China the wrong way in an area it considers as it backyard and 2) China giving implicit approval to N. Korea and its nacent ICBM program?

Also, our foreign policy also is affecting market conditions in regards to the price of oil and the UN security council. Such things affect the economy.

Nobody around here is irreplaceable, but it was great to be informed about lewrockwell.com -- while I don't agree with some of the stuff there, it is very interesting and provides an alternate perspective that is sorely lacking in American society.

Yet I would think that some moderators here practice their craft more like butchers and less like surgeons, and some lack a great deal of discretion, i.e. throwing out the baby with the bath water. When one doesn't allow dissent, others have to wonder where freedom has gone. And that lack of freedom -- part and parcel with responsibility of course -- will close the doors to creativeness and fresh ideas.

There is a place in the world for moderators as well as regulators, but it takes discretion and skill since they are the ones who are responsible to balance such things with freedom and an open society; not operating a website in a cabal or clique.
 
Quips said:
Yet I would think .....................
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The butchery was someone else's doing. Being discrete only made matters worse. We allow dissent, but not arrogant, rude, intolerant, repeated bashing. The bashing was not creative and did not express any fresh ideas. The party doing the bashing was confronted, and even given a 2nd chance, to no avail! Other members were getting very upset and posting very heavy responses. The thread was locked. I tried to fix it, but had to give up; to fix this, we had to fix that, on and on it went. Well, it became too extensive! The I.W thread was sadly deleted. Sorry for the loss of I.W. thread!
 
Quips said:
Yet I would think that some moderators here practice their craft more like butchers and less like surgeons, and some lack a great deal of discretion, i.e. throwing out the baby with the bath water. When one doesn't allow dissent, others have to wonder where freedom has gone. And that lack of freedom -- part and parcel with responsibility of course -- will close the doors to creativeness and fresh ideas.

There is a place in the world for moderators as well as regulators, but it takes discretion and skill since they are the ones who are responsible to balance such things with freedom and an open society; not operating a website in a cabal or clique.
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We accept your offer to moderate this thread Quips. It's a thankless job but you'll do fine. Let people say their peace but don't let it get too out of hand. :D

Thanks,
Tom
 
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