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[Guest]

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Premarket futures are in rally mode following interesting comments from Alan Greenspan that an inverted yield curve this time does not mean that the economy is going to weaken as it has done in the past.

:shock::shock::shock:Four most dangerous words to an investor:

This time is different. :?

To bad the deadline is noon. After lunch should be very interesting ahead of the trade balance report.

Greenie must be scratching his head. Last thing he wanted was for the 10 year yield to dive again.

What a corner he is painted into? Now saying inverted yield curve is not bad for the economy. Wow!!! He needs a econ 101 refresher.

Oh yeah, the yield curve is inverting.

 

[mlk_man]

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Since you say "you only post the facts", which is a major falsehood, you should get the facts straight. He said "flattening" yield curve, not inverted.

Be careful, if he comes to this site, he may sue you..................

Again, flattening is not inverting. You must not have went to chart tekno posted so your comments are not justified. Just like you.

Have a nice day,

M_M

 

[Guest]

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If the 6 month yield is less then the overnight rate.

I.E. overnight 3%

6 month 2.94.

That is an inverted yield curve.

Why is that so hard for you to grasp?

When shorter duration maturies yield is higher then longer term maturies.

I really do not like you posting in threads I have started because once you post it like ruins the whole thread.

I do not appreciate your continued personal attacks and trying to goat everyone that does notthink like you on this board.

You are a bottle neck for learning, converation and enjoyment for all.

Do you realize that?

 

[mlk_man]

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Don't post false statements and I won't comment.

Really don't like your "threads" anyway.........is that polyester? Ewwwwwwwwww

 

[Guest]

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mlk_man wrote:

Since you say "you only post the facts", which is a major falsehood, you should get the facts straight. He said "flattening" yield curve, not inverted.

Be careful, if he comes to this site, he may sue you..................

Again, flattening is not inverting. You must not have went to chart tekno posted so your comments are not justified. Just like you.

Have a nice day,

M_M

By the way:

Would you stop lieing. And at least research the facts before you post here?

Inverted curve might not signal weakness-Greenspan - Reuters - 11 hours ago

You are a negative member on this board because you cloud every important issue and are a waste of time.

Thank you. Really, before you post make make an effort to check your facts first???? Because 9 out of 10 times you are wrong. That is like four days in a row you posted a major error and I am tired of it.

You kill threads with important information.

 

[Guest]

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mlk_man wrote:

Don't post false statements and I won't comment.

Really don't like your "threads" anyway.........is that polyester? Ewwwwwwwwww

You posted a false comment (a lie). If you just take the time to do a little thinking and reading on your own, perhaps? You are like nails on a chalkboard for people with investing knowledge and for those learning you are a major, major source of disinfomation.

So please honor your word and do not comment again.

 

[mlk_man]

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Your aritcle, please read the last sentence:

Inverted curve might not signal weakness-Greenspan

Mon Jun 6, 2005 11:00 PM ET
WASHINGTON, June 6 (Reuters) - Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said on Monday he would be hesitant to assume an inverted bond yield curve in the United States would necessarily mean the economy was weakening.

"It's ... certainly the case that history suggests that it's usually, or has been, an indicator -- a forward indicator -- of softening economic activity," Greenspan told a bankers conference in Beijing as he answered audience questions via satellite from Washington.
"I suspect, however, that we have changed the structure of flow of funds and relationships amongst the various interest-rate tranches by maturity such that I'm not sure what such a configuration, should it occur, would mean."
"I cannot tell you whether in fact we will see an inverted yield curve," he added.



Hmmmmmmmmmmm, can't tell us if we "will see an inverted yield curve". NOt, we currentlly are seeing an inverted yield curve.

You're wrong, go play with techy.....................

BTW, would you quit playing with the fonts on my posts that you quote.....

Thank you,

Yeah, like that'll stop him..............

 

[Guest]

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mlk_man wrote:

Your aritcle, please read the last sentence:

Inverted curve might not signal weakness-Greenspan

Mon Jun 6, 2005 11:00 PM ET
WASHINGTON, June 6 (Reuters) - Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said on Monday he would be hesitant to assume an inverted bond yield curve in the United States would necessarily mean the economy was weakening.

"It's ... certainly the case that history suggests that it's usually, or has been, an indicator -- a forward indicator -- of softening economic activity," Greenspan told a bankers conference in Beijing as he answered audience questions via satellite from Washington.
"I suspect, however, that we have changed the structure of flow of funds and relationships amongst the various interest-rate tranches by maturity such that I'm not sure what such a configuration, should it occur, would mean."
"I cannot tell you whether in fact we will see an inverted yield curve," he added.



Hmmmmmmmmmmm, can't tell us if we "will see an inverted yield curve". NOt, we currentlly are seeing an inverted yield curve.

You're wrong, go play with techy.....................

BTW, would you quit playing with the fonts on my posts that you quote.....

Thank you,

Yeah, like that'll stop him..............

mlk_man wrote

He said "flattening" yield curve, not inverted.

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Just highlighting your lies.

Now can you honor your word???

Or is that a lie too???

 

[mlk_man]

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Allow me to show you the article that I read:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/07/commentary/column_hays/hays/index.htm

Now, you can call me a liar all you want, although coming from you, it lends little credence.

Are you willing to admit you are wrong about being in an inverted yield curve?

I thought not.

How about we start a poll to see who thinks we are and who thinks we aren't?

Now, you and I have wasted enough people's time. Bye MT.

 

[Guest]

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mlk_man wrote:

Allow me to show you the article that I read:

http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/07/commentary/column_hays/hays/index.htm

Now, you can call me a liar all you won't, although coming from you, it lends little credence.

Are you willing to admit you are wrong about being in an inverted yield curve?

I though not.

How about we start a poll to see who thinks we are and who thinks we aren't?

Now, you and I have wasted enough people's time. Bye MT.

 

[grandma]

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1) http://stockcharts.com/charts/YieldCurve.html
if it was we would have a serious situation and none of the markets would show green

2) If the 6 month yield is less then the overnight rate.
I.E. overnight 3%
6 month 2.94.
That is an inverted yield curve.
When shorter duration maturies yield is higher then longer term maturies.

Question: is there a melding place here? ...where both would be true to a certain degree? Or does #2 have a point in it that needs tweaking...or is dependent upon something else before it is considered as part of the equasion?

I read some of what Greenspan said, I realize not all reporters quote exactly. But if the stockchart in #1 above is accurate, and Greenspan had said `...are in inversion,' then would we havebeen seeing any green anywhere as we have been? And if he did actually say that, was it what he meant to say.....did he get his twords wisted??

 

[Guest]

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Inverted Yield Curve
When long-term debt instruments that have lower yields than short-term debt instruments. It is sometimes also referred to as a negative yield curve.

The issue is the lieing, the person attacks and the continued killing of good threads. He was banned said he would not attack again.

There are some good folks on this board that I would love to communicate with.

He is killing this board.


I thought there was a rule on person attacks here???

I get chasised from the moderator for scaring people by stating facts.

This guy lies and attacks and all is well in TSPTALK land. Then says he will not comment if facts are posted and attacks the correct of his lie.

Plain and simple lies.


mlk_man wrote

He said "flattening" yield curve, not inverted.

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mlk_man wrote

Don't post false statements and I won't comment.

 

[mlk_man]

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grandma wrote:

1) http://stockcharts.com/charts/YieldCurve.html
if it was we would have a serious situation and none of the markets would show green

2) If the 6 month yield is less then the overnight rate.
I.E. overnight 3%
6 month 2.94.
That is an inverted yield curve.
When shorter duration maturies yield is higher then longer term maturies.

Question: is there a melding place here? ...where both would be true to a certain degree? Or does #2 have a point in it that needs tweaking...or is dependent upon something else before it is considered as part of the equasion?

I read some of what Greenspan said, I realize not all reporters quote exactly. But if the stockchart in #1 above is accurate, and Greenspan had said `...are in inversion,' then would we havebeen seeing any green anywhere as we have been? And if he did actually say that, was it what he meant to say.....did he get his twords wisted??

He never said we are in an inverted yield situation no matter who you choose to read. If you see the 10 and\or 30 yield rates drop below the shorter rates, then run for cover and wait. Otherwise, just go with trends. That's my advice anyway grandma.

Good luck

 

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mlk_man wrote:

Since you say "you only post the facts", which is a major falsehood, you should get the facts straight. He said "flattening" yield curve, not inverted.

 

[Shaggy]

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I have to be honest hear. Although I don't like the personal attacks by M_M I do believe that you DMA Attack also. Anytime M_M says something that is contrary to your opinion or stated fact you attack and are obviously defensive. I do enjoy reading your posts and they are many times enlightening, however I don't always agree with you. Most of what I have read also indicated a flattening not an inverted curve. When I read the article that M_M posted that is also what I get out of it.

I think maybe, Just Maybe this is just a different interpretation of the article and neither one IS LIEING!! Sometimes when your mind is geared in one direction or another you tend to see things in that direction and miss things going the other way. I'm not talking about DMA I'm talking about all of us. Just to remind you'all that's what this board is all about REMEMBER.

Lets try to be grown-ups hear.

 

[mlk_man]

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I don't believe I've "attacked" anyone who hasn't attacked someone else first or has posted falsified information.

Just my thought.

Rut roh shaggy..........

 

[mlk_man]

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Oh by the way, I haven't gotten personal...........at least on this thread.......:^

Did I call the man a "liar" or a "negative member of the board"?

The only personal thing I have said is that DMA is MT. I'm not the only one that knows that either.

Good luck,

M_M

 

[GALLO1]

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Shaggy wrote:

Lets try to be grown-ups hear.

Hey guys lighten up. I’m a new be and I’ve been devouring just about everything I can on the Message Board to gain some insight on how to effectively play this TSP game. By the way the heading on this site says “Come Grow With Us”.



I do enjoy hearing both sides. The bashing is rather comical, but not necessary to get your points across. I have learned some things that I’ve never known before like what an inverted curve is versus a flattening curve. However, in the end listening and reading all of the economic news and the latest that AG had to say, I still feel like a coin toss at this point would be just about as good in determining to be with the bulls or the bears.



AG does say, or at least the subheading “flattening yield curve”, which I interpret as not flat yet. I’m guessing for it to be inverted it would need to be past flat?



I'm a little nervous being new to the board and possibly getting in harms way.

 

[mlk_man]

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Welcome Gallo, good luck to you.

Why do you say "lighten up"? I'm just trying to help an individual who is obviously confused about what the difference between inverted and flattening is. See, at least I helped someone............:^

M_M

 

[The_Technician]

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Darn!!!! What goes up must come down....!!! And I was just going to get in darn!....the water I mean....:l Who knows what the marketwill do tomorrow??? What a laugh!!!:l

Love that GM news.....oh lovely.........maybe our economy is going gangbusters and I don't know it!!! 25,000 auto workers out of a job......maybe they make too much and pricedthemselves out of a job......just remember same thing can happen on the corporate level .....make too much profit....out of a job later....it just depends on if you have competition or not....:x

The sad truth &question is......I wonder how many of the autoworkers will go to jail for mortgage bankrupcy??? Just think, they give them a loan approval, saying they believe they can repay the loan (which is a mistake on the banks part-can't tell the future), then the autoworker loses their job (can't tell the future either), fails to pay the loan, goes to jail, the bank sells the house gets their money back or most of it, and the guy who was loaned the money by the poor judgement of thebank official pays.....but the bank don't suffer from their poor judgement unless they lose some or all their money......if they did lose some, they should make better evaluations on loan approvals......

Are you in debt and fear you may lose your job????

Hey DMA, MM ain't worth it, he never is promoting an augument....best thing to do is to ignore him.........

I agree about the yield curve trend....its changing directions like the wind.....now that is true as it can be!!!:U

:dude: