Forbes wants to cut Gov't Pay

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Thanks for the article...

Really, cut Federal workers pay by 10%? How about you get all the lawmakers to take 10% first. Also, lower their outlay for FEHB.

Really? Do you think you could be so flippant with a decision like that?

Fire the Czars...Fire Their Staffs....Fire the support for them as well.
Stop paying for freakin White House China. Stop paying for redecoration. Decorate the House with all the historical artificats and then leave it alone. I don't get to redecorate every four years, neither should a public servant.

If we dropped the DOE we could easily pay for Federal employee pay raises for the next 5 years. DOE is synonomous with DOA. We have never removed our dependence on foreign oil, and we're nowhere closer on the issue.

Homeland Security? WTF? FBI already exists and realigning departments to support this effort lowers cost of executive pay.
Execution of Federal Policy is paid in cash to the states that have to provide it. By law, not by agencies.

DOT should disseminate the funds back to the states % wise.... A guy in North Dakota knows how to ensure the laws imposed by the Federal government. Require state reviews of other states to verify compliance.

You want to eliminate "federal" costs: reduce the programs that are duplicate efforts at the state levels. The states already know their requirements and if you need to support them, pay them. Department of Education should just be sending states their % of funds.....

If there are jobs available to do these functions, then the federal workers should have the ability to fill these jobs.

I work for the military, which our government is required to stand up per the Constitution....If the job is Constitutionally justified then it should be left alone...else GO!

This will not make me any friends - Rant OVER:mad:
 
Frixxxx said:
Thanks for the article...

Really, cut Federal workers pay by 10%? How about you get all the lawmakers to take 10% first. Also, lower their outlay for FEHB.

Really? Do you think you could be so flippant with a decision like that?

Fire the Czars...Fire Their Staffs....Fire the support for them as well.
Stop paying for freakin White House China. Stop paying for redecoration. Decorate the House with all the historical artificats and then leave it alone. I don't get to redecorate every four years, neither should a public servant.

If we dropped the DOE we could easily pay for Federal employee pay raises for the next 5 years. DOE is synonomous with DOA. We have never removed our dependence on foreign oil, and we're nowhere closer on the issue.

Homeland Security? WTF? FBI already exists and realigning departments to support this effort lowers cost of executive pay.
Execution of Federal Policy is paid in cash to the states that have to provide it. By law, not by agencies.

DOT should disseminate the funds back to the states % wise.... A guy in North Dakota knows how to ensure the laws imposed by the Federal government. Require state reviews of other states to verify compliance.

You want to eliminate "federal" costs: reduce the programs that are duplicate efforts at the state levels. The states already know their requirements and if you need to support them, pay them. Department of Education should just be sending states their % of funds.....

If there are jobs available to do these functions, then the federal workers should have the ability to fill these jobs.

I work for the military, which our government is required to stand up per the Constitution....If the job is Constitutionally justified then it should be left alone...else GO!

This will not make me any friends - Rant OVER:mad:
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Agree 100% Frixxxx,

But I don't know if our Pols have the fortitude to not throw us under the bus. I also thnk the NEA could use a real good haircut. :D
 
"Greece's cabinet approved a sweeping austerity program, the third in as many months, that aims to rein in a bulging budget deficit by targeting civil servants, the rich and the church." Wed Mar 3, 2010 1:02pm
 
Scrappy said:
"Greece's cabinet approved a sweeping austerity program, the third in as many months, that aims to rein in a bulging budget deficit by targeting civil servants, the rich and the church." Wed Mar 3, 2010 1:02pm
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Can't tax the church here, that would be a violation of the segregation of church and state. Then they would have to give the curch a say in politics:suspicious:
 
Frixxxx said:
Can't tax the church here, that would be a violation of the segregation of church and state. Then they would have to give the curch a say in politics:suspicious:
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True true Frixxxx, that is today. Ummm I think. What about tomorrow and the next nuclear option? :cheesy:


Religion’s role in U.S. politics was on full display on Thursday as President Barack Obama spoke and prayed at the annual National Prayer Breakfast.
 
Scrappy said:
True true Frixxxx, that is today. Ummm I think. What about tomorrow and the next nuclear option? :cheesy:


Religion’s role in U.S. politics was on full display on Thursday as President Barack Obama spoke and prayed at the annual National Prayer Breakfast.
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True, True....as long as he didn't tithe with my tax money while he was there! :toung:
 
Yeah! Get rid of all the agencies I don't work for! Buy more $800 toilet seats! Raise DoD pay! Yeah!
 
softball said:
Yeah! Get rid of all the agencies I don't work for! Buy more $800 toilet seats! Raise DoD pay! Yeah!
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I don't think you understood what I was saying. I am saying that our federal government is too big. I justified the military as one of the few "Constitutional" items the federal government is chartered to create and fund for.

My rant is on the reduction of federal government AND reduction of budget. I live in California where I get federally taxed identical to the rest of the country on my income, YET only 74 cents comes back to my state. That is a federal welfare program I cannot abide by and now they want more of California to support a socialized program with healthcare which means I will be taxed more and get less return.

$800 dollar toilet seats are a thing of the past. That paid for all the "secret" projects the government didn't want you to know about. There is way more accountability now that we are a more open society.

DOD pay raise, why thank you, I am sure the Marines, Soldiers, Sailors, and Airmen appreciate your sentiment, BTW- how much does your freedom cost anyway?

Look, there are viable needs in this country. I will be the first in line to do my fair share. I serve as a Navy Civilian designing state of the art systems to ensure the Fleet stays ready. I also put an Air Force uniform on when required to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. I have taken two oaths to serve in both capacities.

I ask that certain items the government is paying for be stopped. Foreign Aid is a big one.....If we can't take care of the Veterans and Homeless in this country, how can we even think of being a beacon of hope to other countries? We gave this sovereignty up when we joined the United Nations which required us to put in money.

My argument with Forbes is their short-sightedness by saying such ignorant things like a flat 10% cut. That's like saying we should just shut down NASA, they don't do much for the planet anyway.

10% cut affects you too softball. I know this. They never mentioned that they would cut retirement by that amount too, but then, they were a little short-sighted there too!

This is definitely not a switch to be turned off or on, but to be rationalized, ratified and rectified! Peace be with you!
 
Frixx, you're going to have to speak alittle louder. They can't hear you and if they could they would not listen.
Their favorite saying is that we don't PRODUCE anything. No rahm dick tracy, neither does the HR person at the steel mill.
 
softball said:
Yeah! Get rid of all the agencies I don't work for! Buy more $800 toilet seats! Raise DoD pay! Yeah!
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Originally Posted by softball
I think it's a good idea. Why should tax payers subsidize your retirement? Govt employees get payed too much anyway. Private sector employees do a better job and get payed less. You should also pay taxes on your health insurance. You pay more taxes, I pay less.
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The ONLY two posts he's made since 2008......
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Why not cut the pay of everyone that works at Forbes?:nuts:
 
nnuut said:
Why not cut the pay of everyone that works at Forbes?:nuts:
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AND - add in EVERYONE in the White House, in the Capitol, in and out
of the Chambers, the Senate building, etc... Those `eliminated' lobbyists, included. :D
Start there - do that for a year First.......
(did I leave any politico out??)
 
grandma said:
AND - add in EVERYONE in the White House, in the Capitol, in and out
of the Chambers, the Senate building, etc... Those `eliminated' lobbyists, included. :D
Start there - do that for a year First.......
(did I leave any politico out??)
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Of course you did, but we can't get them all on the first cast!!:cool:
 
I'm not opposed to a 10% cut for the greater good, but we all know they will just waste the savings on another earmark or pet project.

When you make a 10% cut, cut across the board starting with the leadership, contractors, services, agency budgets, and everything. We all feel the pain together as a Nation.

We have 2 million Federal workers now and a additional 700,000 USPS employee's that are not counted as Federal workers. I'm seeing some real changes coming in the future for us all. We have contract negotiations coming up at the end of this year and I see a new pay scale and benefit package for the new hires coming.
 
Now that I said that I am willing to make a sacrifices to help the Nation. I will add that the "mob" or Democracy and the elected leaders are the ones that got us where we are today. So I say the cuts should start there first.

Cut budgets and salaries of all executive and elected officials and their staffs. Cut services to the people that voted for the idiots because they voted for them because they were promised something at taxpayer expense for that vote.

Seems like a fair place to start.:nuts:
 
Sounds like Jim Bunting is the voice of reason in the Senate.

America is under a mountain of debt. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said in a hearing last month that the United States' debt is unsustainable. We are on the verge of a tipping point where America's debt will bring down our economy, and more people will join the unemployment lines. That is why I used my right as a United States Senator and objected.
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http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2010/03/column-why-i-took-a-stand-.html
 
Spot on FRIXX!! BTW I'm a Nor Cal Boy and agree with your position on CA taxes. However just because the Constitution states that our common defense be provided for, being a DOD employee I see no justification what so ever to ingnor the quantum waste I see every day.

There is PLENTY, I repeat PLENTY, of other "low hanging fruit" besides cutting/freezing our pay.

Such as:

Multiple Service Academy's, Army, Navy, AF, CG
Multiple Postgraduate level AFn Navy
Multiple Defense Language Institutes Army, Navy
Multipule War Colleges with satillite campuses

There has always been a saying "There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Army, Navy, AF, Marine, and CG way."

Kinda says it all eh.
 
Elgallo said:
Spot on FRIXX!! ...

There has always been a saying "There's the right way, the wrong way, and the Army, Navy, AF, Marine, and CG way."

Kinda says it all eh.
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Thanks bro, and thanks for reminding me, I apologize for the oversight of our Coasties!

I have always used the Suggestion Forms (AF Form 1000) for Spot savings and even got a check, because I saved the Air Force 250,000 in acquisition of Computer Paper! I donated the check to the Airmen's Attic/Thrift Store at Fairchild!!!!

Thanks Elgallo!
 
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