Fireant's Account Talk

The credit crisis is continuing to spread while the housing situation looks more and more like a bottomless pit. At the same time evidence keeps accumulating that shows the malaise spreading to the rest of the economy.

This week Merrill Lynch wrote off $8.2 billion in assets and the word on the Street is that there is more to come. Just a few weeks ago Merrill estimated the write-down at $5 billion. The firm says that the new number is not the result of any newly-found bad assets, but a judgment call on what discount to take from the original valuations. The huge disparity therefore either indicates the wide degree of latitude various financial institutions have in determining the amount of write-downs to take or, on the other hand, indicates a deterioration of perceived value over the last few weeks. Either way, it makes us wonder how many more write-downs are in store for companies that have already taken one write-down and how many other institutions have yet to take their first one.


At the same time it is still unclear whether the Treasury-sponsored SIV rescue plan will do any good and whether it will it even be implemented. On the surface it looks like a temporary holding action aimed at keeping the assets off the books and preventing a showing of their real values. Already a number of prominent voices such as Buffet and Greenspan have expressed their doubts. Since the plan was announced it has become even more apparent that the SIVs are a global problem. Tango Finance, one of the world’s largest SUVs, is selling assets. The firm had assets of $14 billion in July. Chyne Finance with assets of $6.6 billion said it may have trouble paying its debts. Rhinebridge ($2.2 billion), run by IKB Deutsche, may also not be able to pay all of its debts.

Meanwhile the continually worsening housing situation threatens to bring about even more credit problems and a hard landing for the economy. September existing home sales were down 8% for the month and 19% year-to-year with inventories soaring to a 10.5 months supply. Unlike new homes, you can’t alleviate the supply situation by halting new building—these houses are already here. With mortgage quality continuing to deteriorate and foreclosures likely to rise, a significant increase of additional houses on the market is virtually a sure thing. New home sales were up 4.8% in September, but only with the help of a sharp downward revision of August sales. Furthermore, according to NAHB chief economist David Seiders the report indicating a 38% increase in sales in the West was highly questionable. The new housing sales numbers also do not include cancellations, which ranged from 27% to 68% among seven leading home builders.

In addition the evidence that the economy is softening outside the housing sector is quite clear. September chain store sales were down 1.5% and are down over 2% since late July. A number of leading retailers have reduced their expectations including Target, Talbots and Coach. UPS reduced their estimates on the expectation of slower retail sales, and they are in a position to know. September industrial production was up only 0.1% following a flat reading in August. Over the last four months payroll employment has increased by an average of 90,000 compared to 143,000 in the prior four months. In the last two weeks initial unemployment claims has jumped to near the top the range that has been in force since mid-2006. The semiconductor manufacturers’ book-to-bill ratio is at 81, a two-year low while September orders were down 10.6%. Caterpillar surprisingly lowered its forecast, blaming widespread economic weakness. The outlook for capital expenditures is also not encouraging. New orders for durable goods ex-defense and transportation is down 5% from a year earlier while the NABE survey of business confidence is falling sharply. In addition Ward’s is reporting a sharp decline in median and heavy-duty truck sales.

Those looking for strength from abroad may also be disappointed. The German government recently cut its 2008 economic forecast, blaming a strong Euro, high oil prices and credit market turmoil. The Eurozone PMI is down sharply. The housing boom in Europe has also been cooling off significantly. Japan’s economy continues to be sluggish. Together, the U.S., the EU and Japan account for about 70% of world GDP. The other 30% have relatively low domestic consumer spending as a percent of GDP, and are heavily dependent on exports to the other 70%. In our view the global economy is far from immune to a hard landing in the U.S.

The stock market, despite its recent gyrations, has remained at an elevated level based on the widespread belief in a soft landing, continued ease by the Fed and strong global growth. In our view that belief will become as discredited as the belief that the end of the dot-com boom and the housing boom would be contained, that derivative instruments eliminated risk and that subprime loans were safe. The current market discounts nothing ahead of time and does not connect the dots. Instead it reacts to the news each day almost as if the prior day did not exist. In our view the news on the economy will get worse and the market will then react strongly on the downside.
 
Market is moving up ahead of the FED decision... hanging with the S fund since I am still underwater since diving in near the top like an idiot... hope the market continues to climb to the end of the year... technicals look good in the S... DA FIREANTTTT>>>
 
Bloody... after being major league ticked off Friday on a 1 day move that I thought would be positive and seeing the 400 point swing down Friday which left me thoroughly in a foul mood all weekend I thank the Heavens for letting me get out after seeing this morning's action... it is UGLY and going to get UGLIER... Hunkering down like all those UGA fans... DA FIREANT
 
Bloody... after being major league ticked off Friday on a 1 day move that I thought would be positive and seeing the 400 point swing down Friday which left me thoroughly in a foul mood all weekend I thank the Heavens for letting me get out after seeing this morning's action... it is UGLY and going to get UGLIER... Hunkering down like all those UGA fans... DA FIREANT

We share in your pain, someday, we'll share in your glory.
I just wish it would come sooner then later. :embarrest:
 
How long before Uncle Ben steps in with a rate cut? S and I fund down around 5%, VIX at 50. Something has to give.:sick:
 
Please let them BURN... but no instead we have Helicopter BEN... all this $ being thrown at the problem... even if it frees up the lending between banks and causes the LIBOR to go down the root of the problem is still there... the toxic wastes are in the trillions and trillions of dollars... GM is facing massive cash burn... do we bail them out... heck let's bail out every company going under... this is outright socialism... in the end the taxpayer pays and inflation will soon be up and running... Jim Rogers has it right... like a forest fire you need to just let it burn... instead we think we can solve it by POURING money onto the problem... NOT... so what if banks fail... the strong banks will survive and an overhaul of the financial system is REQUIRED... we are just putting off the downturn... I seriously doubt that the us indexes will put in new highs within the next 10-15 years... this is just like America in the 70's and Japan in the 90's... ARMAGGEDON>>> Da Fireant
 
Not sure if it can be changed but my move to 100% G was after 12 Noon yesterday so I just got off of the phone with TSP and cancelled that move. Still 100% C. DA FIREANT
 
Risk vs Reward... at present imho there is not much upside and way too much risk to the downside... estimates of S$P of 740, 600 and lower than that but there is NO BOTTOM in sight... the earnings of the companies who can figure when a lot of them will be negative... is the market fairly valued, over valued or under valued... I DON'T KNOW TO BE HONEST but I do know I made the mistake of sitting all in stocks from 2000-2002 and I swore from then on I would be more active... The leverage on the derivatives on the major banks is downright SCARY and even Uncle Sam can't bail them all out... Unemployment rising, houses falling, no bottom in sight, no capitulation was seen yesterday and so I think we will grind down... I just hope to stay positive this year... Hope to catch small bounces up but that really is just a flip of a coin with the 12 Noon deadline... it is sad that we only have 3 options in our TSP trading(stocks, bonds, money market)... anyway good luck to all... DA FIREANT
 
The grind continues... at bottoms capitulation is evident and by the volumes of the markets we are not there yet... as Fast Money stated yesterday some of the BIG WHALES will be seeing some big pain in the future and when they bail or get taken all the way under that will be "Katie bar the Door". DA FIREANT
 
Europe and Asia down... does not bode well... Santelli was right in your video pm... the GRIND DOWN will continue... DA FIREANT
 
Extremely strong TIDE going out... a ONE IN A GENERATION and everything is going to get EXPOSED... waiting for the bottom wherever it is... I feel sorry for my parents riding this down... DA FIREANT
 
RETEST... we are in a BEAR market until the market/indexes prove otherwise... therefore I think there is a strong possibility of the retest of 666 in the S&P 500 and probably lower, much lowere in my opinion... I am going to hold out for that... congrats to all who have made ground on this move up... maybe BIRCH is right but my gut says otherwise... these bank earnings make me PUKE... how can anybody figure out their true earnings/revenues, etc... it is a joke... DA FIREANT
 
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