DreamboatAnnie's Account Talk

To me this does not feel like 2008.

In 2008 there was an obvious bubble in loans - mortgage, auto, credit, etc. Everybody was a real-estate grinder or a real-estate loan broker. Every radio show had ads on 'No Money Down' loans and 'Interest Only' loans. Financial talk radio was all in on 'this market is different' yammer. I bailed on much of my equity holdings in late 2007 after a close relative in real-estate told me that housing prices could never go down and her husband just became a loan broker. That made a 20% correction a sure thing:laugh:

Anyway, there is a bubble in real-estate that will have to correct. And, there was a bubble in crypto and technology that had to correct and have. However, other than crypto, the bubbles were not overly excessive and were manageable by the FED. Just raising interest rates by a couple of points over a year or two would have done it. It would have probably resulted in a 20% drawdown in equities and a bit less in housing value.

But, we chose poorly and are now stuck in a FED induced deflation while concurrently living a Treasury and Regulatory induced inflation.

Hard to do, but we have succeeded!!!

In sports, we call this 'an unforced error'

What I would watch out for is annuities. Those were the bubbly ads that I kept hearing on financial talk and by financial talking heads. Buy this annuity and you will have guaranteed income for life, buy this annuity and you will never have a down year, by this annuity and you will share in market gains... Whatever. An annuity is nothing more than a managed cash/property/bond/equity account. Properly managed and conservatively allocated it can weather downturns because it is multi-generational. Poorly managed and on the edge and it is AIG. If equities, bonds, and property values decline concurrently with inflation and this mess lasts for some duration of time than the number crunching backbone of annuities will fail. And, math does not care about you or me or anybody else.

GLHF
 
I reckon what happens to the cost of auto fuel on top of everything else should a big hurricane in the Gulf shut down a refinery or two? We may need to buy stock in bicycle companies.


Scott Harrison
Senatobia, MS

Only to be stymied by a gubment announcement of an innertube shortage...:nuts:
 
I was thinking about what is different now as opposed to 2008 in causing market turmoil and drops. The most evident to me: the pandemic, baby boomer retirements, and the "woke and green" agenda which have and are affecting US policies, regulations and the economy. Taken together, these are causing inflation. These are just my takes on this.

Pandemic - caused drop in labor force participation now coming back but slowed by extra unemployment paid. That has now gone, but some employees did not come back, and others retired due to age or due to issues with employment conditions.

Baby Boomer Retirement - BBs born from 1945 to 1962*, with bulk born towards end of this period*. Many have retired but many will retire in next 1-6 years*, that will continue to cause labor issues and more demand than supply and thus cause more inflation as wage rates go up further and those rates will be fixed/permanent. The FED interest rate hikes will not directly cause this type of inflation to go down directly or quickly. To do so would be painful.

Pain through Recession: To drive down inflation, Fed aims to increase Fed rate. To do it, they would need to increase rates high enough to cause product pricing to go high enough to drive down demand/get us to stop buying stuff. Businesses would be forced to increase prices to stay in business if they rely on loans to fund business operations/equipment/vehicles, etc., which would be going up due to the higher interest rates. Plus consumers buying houses/vehicles would have higher costs to buy items so they would hold back on buying on credit, so those sectors would suffer. Then when our consumer demand drops, businesses will go out of business and people will lose their jobs. So, when we see the unemployment rates start to go up due to people losing jobs because businesses are going out of business, we will be in full recession. Possible fix: Implement immigration policy for legal immigration that would have increase labor force and possibly drive down less skilled labor rates and have payments into
Social security to fund baby boomer SS payouts. But this would need to be LEGAL immigration.

Woke/Green agendas - This is causing increased regulation or policy changes that restrict or slow drilling which in turn is causing fuel prices to go up for gasoline and natural gas, due to lower supply. The Fix: Get rid of policies that are preventing drilling and production in US and pipelines.

MAIN point: While Pandemic and Woke/green agendas maybe remedied by time and political action, the labor supply will not be remedied without politicians on both sides taking action. Baby boomers are continuing to leave the workforce! There is a huge gap forming in labor.


*-https://www.theepochtimes.com/where-have-the-workers-gone_4465217.html?utm_source=ai&utm_medium=search
 
Daily charts... Once more for my friends! :D:D:D
So, yesterday I wanted to go in some, but didn't ...now I am glad I didn't. Gosh...what a roller coaster...:blink: Take care out there...

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Did you jump in today? The way the market has gone the last week is an up day then a down day. So if it holds to the pattern tomorrow should be an up day. But then again.......:buttkick:
 
Did you jump in today? The way the market has gone the last week is an up day then a down day. So if it holds to the pattern tomorrow should be an up day. But then again.......:buttkick:

The first corollary to pattern identification is that the pattern will change once identified. :cheesy:
 
Hi Nasa, no entry for me. Too unstable. I may be waiting quite a while. :( I don't like it but just don't want to put in a high-risk play....at least not yet!
 
I am going in... Probably 50-60% .. Likely more C than S fund. I don't like going into the next week without an exit, but thinking its gone down a lot and due for a "real" bounce. Still expect it to be volatile and eventually we go down further. Best wishes to you all! :smile:
 
Thank you to all our armed service men and women who sacrificed their lives for our freedom! May we never forget.
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