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Cowboys Account Account Talk
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I have question? Now that the market appears to be sliding how many plan to take advantage of it tomorrow? Remember the little play I had last Friday and bought back cheaper the next day. What if it is up .05 tomorrow morning are you going to buy in or set? My feeling about the I fund is still strong. Seeing an opening is one thing but you still have to risk to capitalize on it.
I have question? Now that the market appears to be sliding how many plan to take advantage of it tomorrow? Remember the little play I had last Friday and bought back cheaper the next day. What if it is up .05 tomorrow morning are you going to buy in or set? My feeling about the I fund is still strong. Seeing an opening is one thing but you still have to risk to capitalize on it.
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EAFE index down .21%.
Even thou the internationals had a great night.
That pesky strenghtening USD.
Good luck Cowboy.
I wish you well.
Only picture I can give you is I believed the USD was going to break .89 soon and it did.
Tomorrow, I do not know.
EAFE index down .21%.
Even thou the internationals had a great night.
That pesky strenghtening USD.
Good luck Cowboy.
I wish you well.
Only picture I can give you is I believed the USD was going to break .89 soon and it did.
Tomorrow, I do not know.
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I appreciate your response, DMA. I bet most on the board have the same thoughts going through their heads. Am I willing to take the risk and jump into this market tomorrow and or should I set itout and hope it goes lower. So the USDA broke 89 today what is happening tomorrow that is the only thing that can help any of us. Knowing the USD was breaking 89 today does little good as were locked in for that day regardless.
I appreciate your response, DMA. I bet most on the board have the same thoughts going through their heads. Am I willing to take the risk and jump into this market tomorrow and or should I set itout and hope it goes lower. So the USDA broke 89 today what is happening tomorrow that is the only thing that can help any of us. Knowing the USD was breaking 89 today does little good as were locked in for that day regardless.
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Good luck Cowboy.
I am routing for ya, Buddy!
I appreciate you listening to my HO.
I respect yours.
Welcome to TSP. You have to guess 28 hours out. I am not good at that.
Good luck Cowboy.
I am routing for ya, Buddy!
I appreciate you listening to my HO.
I respect yours.
Welcome to TSP. You have to guess 28 hours out. I am not good at that.
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The F fund whichsome are in took it's leap already now it will take .03 to .05 of it back prior to paying again as a rule. I was in F fund, lately it has paid good but the fund is going up when I fund moves some also and hasn't paid as much. Once you are out of the market you have to buy back and G & F have hurt more than helped.
I quoted this last week on June 23rd, I just thought I would post it up again for everyone to see. I believe I fund may make a nice move tomorrow but who knows everything is a gamble.
The F fund whichsome are in took it's leap already now it will take .03 to .05 of it back prior to paying again as a rule. I was in F fund, lately it has paid good but the fund is going up when I fund moves some also and hasn't paid as much. Once you are out of the market you have to buy back and G & F have hurt more than helped.
I quoted this last week on June 23rd, I just thought I would post it up again for everyone to see. I believe I fund may make a nice move tomorrow but who knows everything is a gamble.
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Howdy! I made a move to 100% C this morning, so I will be all in C on Monday. I just thought I would just see what occurs since it seems to be a losing todayand it has been dropping the last few weeks. Hoping for a short term bounce. Have agood one everyone. Here is a little cowboy ettiquette for all you readers out there.
Act the same way
when you don't
have company
as when you do.
Howdy! I made a move to 100% C this morning, so I will be all in C on Monday. I just thought I would just see what occurs since it seems to be a losing todayand it has been dropping the last few weeks. Hoping for a short term bounce. Have agood one everyone. Here is a little cowboy ettiquette for all you readers out there.
Act the same way
when you don't
have company
as when you do.
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Heehee! I am going to see if I can take advantage of the L funds in some type of way and use them more as a safe haven rather than fool with G & F. Basically the L funds just do diversification for you so why not use that to my advantage. Has anyone considered this as I like to stay in stocks and still play in the C,S & I funds?
Have a good day everyone! My condolenses go out to those caught in Katrina! I do think since we have to rebuild New Orleans and some other places maybe we should consider higher ground or maybe there just aint any!
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Heehee! I am going to see if I can take advantage of the L funds in some type of way and use them more as a safe haven rather than fool with G & F. Basically the L funds just do diversification for you so why not use that to my advantage. Has anyone considered this as I like to stay in stocks and still play in the C,S & I funds?
Have a good day everyone! My condolenses go out to those caught in Katrina! I do think since we have to rebuild New Orleans and some other places maybe we should consider higher ground or maybe there just aint any!
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I believe that the L2020 that I am in just out performed the C & S fund for the daydue to the strength of the I fund percentage. I think it will pay about 5 cents. I have now moved to L2010 as I feel the strength may be waning in the stock funds after these past few days of up movement. If your like me and hate to move out of stocks I think the L funds can provide the short term protection onthe voltile market. If you look at L income it moved 3 cents yesterday and possibly a cent tomorrow which would put itat the same rate of interest as theG fund or close to it compared to the start of the L funds in August.
I believe that the L2020 that I am in just out performed the C & S fund for the daydue to the strength of the I fund percentage. I think it will pay about 5 cents. I have now moved to L2010 as I feel the strength may be waning in the stock funds after these past few days of up movement. If your like me and hate to move out of stocks I think the L funds can provide the short term protection onthe voltile market. If you look at L income it moved 3 cents yesterday and possibly a cent tomorrow which would put itat the same rate of interest as theG fund or close to it compared to the start of the L funds in August.
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cowboy wrote:
cowboy wrote:
I believe the L fund has some fancyboy hotshot Who cant do any better with your money than You can. I will not let anyone Gamble my money for me. May as well put it in G and go out to pasture and not worry about it. You pay attention to what goes on in this world and know as much as the next guy. Who better to spread your money out than yourself.I believe that the L2020 that I am in just out performed the C & S fund for the daydue to the strength of the I fund percentage. I think it will pay about 5 cents. I have now moved to L2010 as I feel the strength may be waning in the stock funds after these past few days of up movement. If your like me and hate to move out of stocks I think the L funds can provide the short term protection onthe voltile market. If you look at L income it moved 3 cents yesterday and possibly a cent tomorrow which would put itat the same rate of interest as theG fund or close to it compared to the start of the L funds in August.
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I quess I don't think anyone is gambling for me, The L funds are just what they are funds. Lets see now I was 100% C than I played L 2020 on Sept. 1 and made .04 in the fund while if I would have been still 100% C, I would of only made .02 on that day. Then I played safe and pulled into the G fund and made a penny today but lossed out on all the gains in stocks. Now my guess is markets may be down today. There will possibly be many that wished they werein the L fundstoday and played at a lower risk. It all depends on how you look at the world and use the assets you have at hand to gain. If I would of been 100% Cyesterday, I could of put it in the L fund and conserved money at a lower risk and possibly buy back C,S, or I, on the dip today. The L funds are basically based on a risk to time of retirementratio and computed by a computer. Why waste time fretting about how much I want to put into each fund when I have the use of a system that provides me the lowest risk possible and play it short term.
One thing I notice is that some may make more money than some one else in the short term but it is what you do with it in the long term that actually is the deciding factor. We all have to make choices and live with the good or bad of it.Todays decision will have consequences tomorrow which may be good or bad.
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cowboy wrote:I believe the L fund has some fancyboy hotshot Who cant do any better with your money than You can. I will not let anyone Gamble my money for me. May as well put it in G and go out to pasture and not worry about it. You pay attention to what goes on in this world and know as much as the next guy. Who better to spread your money out than yourself.I believe that the L2020 that I am in just out performed the C & S fund for the daydue to the strength of the I fund percentage. I think it will pay about 5 cents. I have now moved to L2010 as I feel the strength may be waning in the stock funds after these past few days of up movement. If your like me and hate to move out of stocks I think the L funds can provide the short term protection onthe voltile market. If you look at L income it moved 3 cents yesterday and possibly a cent tomorrow which would put itat the same rate of interest as theG fund or close to it compared to the start of the L funds in August.
I quess I don't think anyone is gambling for me, The L funds are just what they are funds. Lets see now I was 100% C than I played L 2020 on Sept. 1 and made .04 in the fund while if I would have been still 100% C, I would of only made .02 on that day. Then I played safe and pulled into the G fund and made a penny today but lossed out on all the gains in stocks. Now my guess is markets may be down today. There will possibly be many that wished they werein the L fundstoday and played at a lower risk. It all depends on how you look at the world and use the assets you have at hand to gain. If I would of been 100% Cyesterday, I could of put it in the L fund and conserved money at a lower risk and possibly buy back C,S, or I, on the dip today. The L funds are basically based on a risk to time of retirementratio and computed by a computer. Why waste time fretting about how much I want to put into each fund when I have the use of a system that provides me the lowest risk possible and play it short term.
One thing I notice is that some may make more money than some one else in the short term but it is what you do with it in the long term that actually is the deciding factor. We all have to make choices and live with the good or bad of it.Todays decision will have consequences tomorrow which may be good or bad.
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Over the long haul, many would agree that market timers don’t do as well as well as those that dollar cost average and have a diversified portfolio. Now there are a few like Birchtree who do very well at it.
It all boils down to risk tolerance and having the time and expertise to track market conditions and even after all that you need to be lucky.
I am a gambler and I have no problems taking a hit every so often although 2002 was a bit much as I new I should have eaten my losses and gotten out but I didn’t. I just got out of the C- Fund late June 2005 so I made up much of the loss I took, will that ever happen to me again? I think not ; as just like Poker youlearn from every hand played and every game.
There is a poker game that is a lot of fun and for me it is the closest game to market timing its called; Let Them Ride Poker. The L funds have their place just like marketing timing does. Fortitude should be the word of the day for market timers.
Just how lucky do you feel is the driving force with gamblers and Timers?
Over the long haul, many would agree that market timers don’t do as well as well as those that dollar cost average and have a diversified portfolio. Now there are a few like Birchtree who do very well at it.
It all boils down to risk tolerance and having the time and expertise to track market conditions and even after all that you need to be lucky.
I am a gambler and I have no problems taking a hit every so often although 2002 was a bit much as I new I should have eaten my losses and gotten out but I didn’t. I just got out of the C- Fund late June 2005 so I made up much of the loss I took, will that ever happen to me again? I think not ; as just like Poker youlearn from every hand played and every game.
There is a poker game that is a lot of fun and for me it is the closest game to market timing its called; Let Them Ride Poker. The L funds have their place just like marketing timing does. Fortitude should be the word of the day for market timers.
Just how lucky do you feel is the driving force with gamblers and Timers?
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I have to agree with you Jovarn that dollar cost averaging is a good idea and diversification is also, this is actually what the L funds are. As far as market timers no one knows if they are actually do as well or worse. So far I see Birchtree as a long term investor that is doing well holding the C fund and he hasn't timed anything yet. He is investing his money and knows that long term he will gain. I think if Birchtree is a timer he would of sold his C at 13.40 and rebought last week at 13.03 and sold it again soon or if not yesterday.
Birch purchased in at $12.60 on 5-3-05 if he wasin C on Dec.31 2004 it was worth $12.91a gain of .40 versus the .71 shown on the May transaction. Basically you and I can not tell and only Birchtree knows if he was in or not on the 31st of December and he would of actually lost from there to May. I believe BirchTree does have fortitude but so far he has only made one decision and that is to buy C in mid year, many people that are invested do the samed thing and never look at their account. It is when he sells the C position and repurchases that we will see if he has real guts and sand.
Timers & Gamblers are basically the same as we bet on an uncertain outcome. Everyone here that has moved out of one fund to another is gambler or hoping to time the market. I made .22 cents on my last 3 moves in the last week does this make me good, more than likely not, lucky maybe.
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I have to agree with you Jovarn that dollar cost averaging is a good idea and diversification is also, this is actually what the L funds are. As far as market timers no one knows if they are actually do as well or worse. So far I see Birchtree as a long term investor that is doing well holding the C fund and he hasn't timed anything yet. He is investing his money and knows that long term he will gain. I think if Birchtree is a timer he would of sold his C at 13.40 and rebought last week at 13.03 and sold it again soon or if not yesterday.
Birch purchased in at $12.60 on 5-3-05 if he wasin C on Dec.31 2004 it was worth $12.91a gain of .40 versus the .71 shown on the May transaction. Basically you and I can not tell and only Birchtree knows if he was in or not on the 31st of December and he would of actually lost from there to May. I believe BirchTree does have fortitude but so far he has only made one decision and that is to buy C in mid year, many people that are invested do the samed thing and never look at their account. It is when he sells the C position and repurchases that we will see if he has real guts and sand.
Timers & Gamblers are basically the same as we bet on an uncertain outcome. Everyone here that has moved out of one fund to another is gambler or hoping to time the market. I made .22 cents on my last 3 moves in the last week does this make me good, more than likely not, lucky maybe.
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cowboy I recon I see your point. You seem to be very well informed probably more so than me. I am still studying theL funds and will try to understand them more as time goes on. I think I really dont understand them as much as I would Like. If there is anything I can get to help me do just that please bring it to my attention. You guys are a lot smarter than me about this stuff, but i'm trying. As for the victims of Katrina, Im a firefighter/first responder but I work for the government. I would like to be able to use some vacation just to go help, but with my rresponsibilities at this hospital, they wont let me off. God Bless, Good luck and in no way would I ever intentionally offend any human being on the face of this earth. May the stars shine bright on the victims of this horrible catastrophe, as well as on all of us trying to survive as best we can. I am thankful for what I have and what I will recieve. Best wishes Dakota Chuck Mantooth
cowboy I recon I see your point. You seem to be very well informed probably more so than me. I am still studying theL funds and will try to understand them more as time goes on. I think I really dont understand them as much as I would Like. If there is anything I can get to help me do just that please bring it to my attention. You guys are a lot smarter than me about this stuff, but i'm trying. As for the victims of Katrina, Im a firefighter/first responder but I work for the government. I would like to be able to use some vacation just to go help, but with my rresponsibilities at this hospital, they wont let me off. God Bless, Good luck and in no way would I ever intentionally offend any human being on the face of this earth. May the stars shine bright on the victims of this horrible catastrophe, as well as on all of us trying to survive as best we can. I am thankful for what I have and what I will recieve. Best wishes Dakota Chuck Mantooth
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I look at the L funds as just another fund or asset to use if you want to. Thanks for the complement Dakota but I doubt that I am any more informed than anyone else as far as the markets go.
The magnitude of this disaster was far more reaching than any person in this countrycould imagine.Ibelieve the media doesn't have the slightest idea what it takes to run a relief effort and seems more set on making up one sided stories, and now the political crap and name calling will get front news.Thenational media really needs to me, get rid of theirHollywood attitude and report more reality. They shouldtry to assist the relief effort not tear it apart.For the next few weeks we should write down the names of allthat go in front of the camera for media attention and finger pointing and not vote for these people. These people are poor leaders in my opinion.
I look at the L funds as just another fund or asset to use if you want to. Thanks for the complement Dakota but I doubt that I am any more informed than anyone else as far as the markets go.
The magnitude of this disaster was far more reaching than any person in this countrycould imagine.Ibelieve the media doesn't have the slightest idea what it takes to run a relief effort and seems more set on making up one sided stories, and now the political crap and name calling will get front news.Thenational media really needs to me, get rid of theirHollywood attitude and report more reality. They shouldtry to assist the relief effort not tear it apart.For the next few weeks we should write down the names of allthat go in front of the camera for media attention and finger pointing and not vote for these people. These people are poor leaders in my opinion.
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I hear ya pal! After tomorrow maybe ol Cowboy won't have a seat left in his pants. You have to be crazy to ride with Cowboy. But I doubt that he will be any worse off for wear and tear than when he is done this priorly and lost. Cowboy may just take a bath and we ain't to fond of a doin that.
I hear ya pal! After tomorrow maybe ol Cowboy won't have a seat left in his pants. You have to be crazy to ride with Cowboy. But I doubt that he will be any worse off for wear and tear than when he is done this priorly and lost. Cowboy may just take a bath and we ain't to fond of a doin that.
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