alevin
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As much as I believe alternative energy development is a longrange MUST, starting yesterday, I also believe ethanol has a looong ways to go before it really cuts the mustard. I had my fuel pump go out on me without warning last summer mid-town after work, barely got home that afternoon and barely got it to the mechanic next day. Blocking an intersection because your vehicle just died on you as you're turning a corner, anyone? Fun. And no, I don't blame it on ethanol because there are no E85 sources around here, BUT... for those of you who do.....here's something to make you think about where you buy and where its going. Risk factors-its a long ways between towns around here if your fuel pump goes out. I'm grateful mine went out in town while it was still daylight. I'm still zeroed in on improving home energy efficiency before worrying about alternative vehicle fuels: insulation, light tubes, power manager, heatpumps, solar for reducing home electricity, AC/heating demands.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/20090515/bs_bw/may2009bw20090514058678By Ed Wallace Ed Wallace – 1 hr 44 mins ago
the ethanol lobby and refiners have a solution to ethanol's failure in America: lobby the government to increase the amount of ethanol in our fuel to 15%.
those promoting more ethanol in our gas say there's no scientific proof that adding more ethanol will damage vehicles or small gas-powered engines. With that statement they've gone from shilling the public to outright falsehoods, because ethanol-laced gasoline is already destroying engines across the country in ever larger numbers.
Got a Spare $1,000?
At City Garage in Euless, Tex., for example, the first of numerous future customers brought in an automobile whose fuel pump was shot. A quick diagnosis determined that that particular car had close to 18% ethanol in the fuel. For that unlucky owner, the repairs came to nearly $900. The ethanol fun was just beginning.
City Garage manager Eric Greathouse has found that adding ethanol to the nation's gasoline supply has an upside he'd rather not deal with. It's supplying his shop with a slow but steady stream of customers whose plastic fuel intakes have been dissolved by the blending of ethanol into our gasoline, or their fuel pumps destroyed. The average cost of repairs is just shy of $1,000.
It gets better. Scott Morrison is the owner of the City Garage chain in North Texas and he related the story of his technical director's run-in with ethanol; in December he filled up his E85 Flex Fuel Chevy Suburban at the Exxon station in Ovilla, just south of Dallas. His Suburban died on the spot, because even an E85-equipped vehicle will not run on the 100% pure ethanol that Exxon station was pumping that day. In that case it was not Exxon's fault but a mistake at the distribution center, and Exxon (xom.) quickly made good for the cost of repairs.
On Jan. 16 of this year, Lexus ordered a massive recall of certain 2006 to 2008 models, including the GS Series, IS and LS sedans. According to the recall notice, ethanol causes pinpoint leaks in the fuel system; when leaking fuel catches your engine on fire, that's an exciting way to have your insurance company buy your Lexus. Using ethanol will cost Toyota (tm.) untold millions.
An Unpublicized Trend
Though the media is ignoring it, one can easily find many stories on BMW (BMWG.DE) blogs relating similar problems with fuel systems damaged by the use of ethanol. Certainly that was the case with Christi Jordan and her 2007 Mini. For weeks it was difficult to start; Moritz BMW in Arlington, Tex., inspected it and found severe carbon buildup inside the engine. On her second trip to the mechanics they decided to test the ethanol content of Christi's fuel and found it was much higher than the federally mandated limit of 10%.
This time the fuel pump had been destroyed by the ethanol. The repair bill came to $1,200: As in all cases where vehicles are damaged by ethanol, legally the factory warranty no longer applied.
Jim Keppler, Moritz's fixed operations director, said he's had at least 10 other cases of ethanol poisoning in Minis over the past six months. there's no telling how many motorists across the nation have had to pay for fuel pumps, or fuel systems, that ethanol damaged. virtually no repair shop tests the level of ethanol in the gasoline when these fuel system problems occur.
In the case of the Lexus recall, using just a 10% ethanol blend was found to be destroying many of these engines also.
today the EPA is starting to go through the public comment phase on increasing the level of ethanol in our gasoline from 10% to 15%. Time and time again we have heard from these groups, who now claim that there is zero scientific evidence that a 15% blend of ethanol would do any damage whatsoever if the mandate for ethanol were raised. As with all statements made by vested interests, few outsiders have actually taken the time to look and find out whether this statement was true.
In fact, it's false.
Not one mechanic I've spoken with said they would be comfortable with a 15% blend of ethanol in their personal car. However, most suggest that if the government moves the ethanol mandate to 15%, it will be the dawn of a new golden age for auto mechanics' income.
One last thought: Most individuals who have had to repair their fuel systems in recent years never had the gasoline tested to see if the ethanol percentage might be the problem.
Today most repair shops and new-car dealers are still not testing for ethanol blends. They're simply repairing the vehicles and sending their unhappy and less wealthy customers on their way. But, where dealer and repair shops are testing the gasoline, ethanol is becoming one of the leading culprits for the damage. this time around motorists will be able to gauge the real cost of ethanol when it comes time to fix their personal cars.