Black Monday? and will the Fed cut rate on Tuesday?

Honey, I Shrunk the Company
The winner of this week's ``Honey, I Shrunk the Company'' award has to be American Home Mortgage Investment Corp. Worth more than $1.8 billion just six months ago, the company's value dropped to as low as $56 million this week.
The lender specializes in Alternative A mortgages, a catch- all classification for loans made to borrowers that don't meet the standard to be classified as ``prime'' while not scoring low enough to drop into the subprime category.
In April, American Home Mortgage said demand from financial companies that buy and repackage its so-called Alt-A mortgages was ``stabilizing.'' This week, banks cut its credit lines. ......

I have to laugh at how the sub-classes of pseudo-primes have been dragged into the limelight. What's the message here.....it's just sub-prime, oh wait......it includes almost-primes......oh wait.....what's next? it include's primes, credit cards and auto loans?. The more they try to categorize this into some stair step process, the longer they'll drag out the bottom.

Just admit it, America overspent trying to keep up with the Jones's...The people that have no fears about this credit crunch are folks who have good fiscal habits and arent spending ridiculous amounts of money on telecommunications, retail and energy, or tried get rich quick schemes in real estate and high risk markets.

Accpet it for what it is and don't let it become a political issue. America is not at the end of the rope or going to slip into a great depression if we just learn to be fiscally responsible. This is about individual responsibility - which (unfortunately) means the politicians are going to grab hold of it and turn it into a ugly nasty mess.
 
Not only laugh, but cry. Griffin is correct about how most of America has over-spent. Now bills are due and there is no easy money to bail them out of the mess - this situation has had me nervous for some time. I am one of the blessed whose parents taught me fiscal responsibility, so I did not continue to borrow and try to keep up with the Jones, but there are many who did and will find themselves in difficult times.
 
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/fed-investors-shouldnt-expect-much/story.aspx?guid=%7B70B9E9E9%2D1107%2D4F6F%2D8B2D%2D98A3D1581F03%7D&dist=hplatest

THE FED
Fed highly unlikely to ride to markets' rescue
Ex-Fed official says FOMC may not even mention recent volatility

By Greg Robb, MarketWatch
Last Update: 11:42 AM ET Aug 6, 2007

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- Participants in financial markets shouldn't get their hopes up that the Federal Reserve will intervene to alleviate the current market turmoil, a former Fed governor says.
"I think it is too early right now to think about any kind of intervention by the Fed," said Susan Phillips, now the dean of the George Washington University business school in Washington, in a telephone interview.
Phillips said that the financial markets' volatility is a painful but healthy "reality check" and that this has led to an overdue repricing of risk.
"We're in the middle of that process," Phillips said. "The Fed wants the market to find its own right place," she said.
The Federal Open Market Committee will meet to consider U.S. monetary policy on Tuesday.
At the moment, the emerging consensus among Fed watchers is that the Ben Bernanke-led Fed will hold interest rates steady but that the policy statement released after the meeting will add some wording about the troubles gripping the subprime mortgage sector.
"Frazzled nerves will not be sufficient for the FOMC to step in and lower the funds rate," said Richard Moody, chief economist at Mission Residential, in a note to clients. The federal funds rate, currently 5.25%, hasn't been changed since June 2006.
But for her part, Phillips said she thinks the Fed will hold its tongue on the market turmoil.
"To me, it is something like a 60% chance they won't say anything because they don't want to intervene," Phillips said.
Phillips also said that the Bernanke Fed likely has a very high threshold before it would intervene. In essence, Fed officials would only ease if the financial markets are close to becoming "inoperable."
The Fed might ease interest rates "if we were to have one of the really major [Wall Street] firms go under -- not one of the subprime operators -- and that caused severe liquidity problems in the market," Phillips said.
Phillips, a member of the Fed under previous chairman Alan Greenspan for seven years in the 1990s, said financial markets are much stronger today then when the so-called "Greenspan put," which guaranteed a market floor, held sway.
Phillips said Fed officials have a lot to discuss regarding the economic outlook. There are, for starters, questions about whether consumer spending is slowing down, and whether manufacturing can continue at a stronger pace in the second half of the year.
Phillips also said that there has only been a "slight improvement" in inflation and that the Fed will maintain inflation as its predominant policy concern for now.
"They have to" keep in place the bias against inflation, Phillips said.
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Greg Robb is a senior reporter for MarketWatch in Washington.



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I have to wonder did we climax prematurely? :sick:

Does this now mean tomorrow will be a down day? :suspicious:
 
I have to wonder did we climax prematurely? :sick:

Does this now mean tomorrow will be a down day? :suspicious:

With the volatility we have been seeing, this could go anywhere, but we are seeing a concentrated effort on the part of the big boys to keep it from sliding any lower, this is real good news for the short run. Only time will tell how many more creditors and banks will get sucked into the seventh level of hell :blink:.
 
I don't see Uncle Ben utilizing the 'Greenspan Put' tomorrow. I'm still Bullish and taking this as a correction but too many folks are planning on the Fed bailing the market out. Investments carry risk and there's going to be winners and losers. This time around, there were too many people making bad decisions and every one of them think it's the US Government's responsibility to give back what was taken. Americans lose a couple months of money in personal retirement funds and feel Bernanke should come to the rescue.

There are broader strokes to the painting. Cutting rates for the wrong reasons will be detrimental to the big picture.
 
Let a rookie throw out a theory for dissection. Borrowing from Griffin that this rally was generated by the Big Boys who don't want this slide to continue...that would mean that the underlying economic fundamentals would have continued in the negative territory "but for" the Big Boys stepping in. As an old basketball player, this sounds like a pump fake to me...getting everyone else to jump in and buy...drive prices back up...only problem, if the fundamentals are still bad, doesn't that mean we still need to go down?
 
Yes

Let a rookie throw out a theory for dissection. Borrowing from Griffin that this rally was generated by the Big Boys who don't want this slide to continue...that would mean that the underlying economic fundamentals would have continued in the negative territory "but for" the Big Boys stepping in. As an old basketball player, this sounds like a pump fake to me...getting everyone else to jump in and buy...drive prices back up...only problem, if the fundamentals are still bad, doesn't that mean we still need to go down?
 
The Fed doesn't need to cut rates to get a rally. Heck, let the Bears short and then bring out the PPT. 300 point rallies in the last hour! No problem, watch the Boyz squeeze em!
 
:suspicious:As expected he Federal Reserve held the federal-funds rate at 5.25% on Tuesday. The Fed gave a nod to market volatility but said that inflation remained its chief concern. It gave a nod to lowering interest rates if need be. They said exactly what I expected. Somehow, I feel cheated. I expected the recovery on Tuesday, not Monday. I cannot think of a good reason for the rally just before the Fed meeting. If you asked me something stinks in Denmark. There was not one article I could find that expected Monday to be a good day, most of what I read sounded downright panicky. Looks to me like there was a lot of insider trading, from people in the know. In any case, we should have a good week on the upside. I guess at my age I should be used to being manipulated.:suspicious:
 
Asian stocks may rise on Fed's optimism, U.S. rally
By Moming Zhou, MarketWatch
Last Update: 6:52 PM ET Aug 7, 2007

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...92519-42CF-4437-9D2E-B63525BA7555}&siteid=rss

"The Fed's decision will send a signal to Asian markets that we are keeping economic growth on track," said Ken Kam, Chairman and CEO of Marketocracy Data Services, which tracks and analyzes worldwide trading activities. "The rest of the world largely depends on the U.S. economy to keep growing, and the Fed showed that the subprime mortgage mess is not going to derail the economic policy."

"Asian equities are likely to open with a bid tone after the U.S. markets closed up," said Marc Chandler, an analyst at partnership bank Brown Brothers Harriman.

(Hope they are right)
 
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