Birchtree's Account Talk

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Glad to see your still a collector there Mr. Birtchtree.

My position in AIG is stinking more and more everyday:mad: After listening to their conference call, I realize it will stink for years, or at least until they pay off the Feds and bring the div back. There's talk they may need more fed money, hopefully this won't happen and they will make do. But I do believe it will make a comeback within 3-7 years.

Picked up a new position in IO the other day. It's been beat down, but the fundamentals are great.

It's all good, Cheers...JTH
 
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I recently received some information from Robo regarding a Zeal Intelligence article entitled "Capitalism without failure is like religion without hell." I would like to post a few comments from a very long article that appeal to me.

"Bad news emerging from the Q4 panic quarter was ubiquitous, yet selling didn't spiral out of control as it did in the panic. This radically increases the odds the deep lows of November indeed marked the universal selling exhaustion necessary to burn out the panic. January's low was higher.

The dollar swooned again the moment stock selling stopped, which suggests it is not going to fare well as the SPX rallies out of its panic lows. But since the Fed has doubled the US monetary base in a matter of months, the dollar is highly likely to continue to fall which is all the better for gold.

It is amazing how morose the thundering herd is! Everyone is looking for more deterioration instead of simply acknowledging the fact that panics are rare and atypical so anything we see within them is not a harbinger for non-panic conditions. Virtually everyone expects things to get a lot worse before they get better. This kind of sentiment is what you see at the end of bears. Nearly everyone is bearish today, in degrees ranging from expecting mild declines to the next Great Depression. Today's true contrarians (Birchtree) aren't the most pessimistic among bears, but the exceedingly rare bulls. So as a contrarian, I have to be brave. I have to be bullish on a future that nearly everyone else thinks is a mess. Yes, the panic was a nightmare, Q4 was terrible, and the economy and earnings data has yet to show a strong recovery. Still, sentiment is way to negative so we have to be bullish.

With the one exception of the Great Depression, history suggests we could see gains of 25% to 50% in the US stock markets in calendar 2009. This probably sounds crazy, but only because it is such a hardcore contrarian notion for the bearish sentiment wasteland today. Yet the markets are a self-balancing mechanism. When greed or fear gets too out of control, the opposing extremes next to rebalance everything out. A big up 2009 would balance out 2008." Birchtree is holding out for a 2009 SPX level to reach 1700.

http://www.ZealLLC.com
 
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"Over the last six decades, it turns out, the stock market on average has performed better when the nation's unemployment ratew was higher than when it was lower."
Mark Hulbert
 
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This bear market may be less damaging than the tech bust of 2000
Mark Hulbert.

What a dupe. I don't remember housing prices falling 40% and every other stock sector falling 50%+ during the tech bust.

I don't remember DOW stocks trading as penny stocks either (stock under $5 a share are considered penny stocks). GM, BAC, C, should of been removed from the DOW and traded on the pink sheets like the rest of the penny stocks.
 
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Birchtree:
That's when the future looks better than the past.
Skip
 
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That when the future looks better than the past.
Skip

The government tried to prop up the tech bubble by starting to cut rates Jan 01 - how did that work out?

Now the government is trying to prop up housing prices......to be continued.
 
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The government tried to prop up the tech bubble by starting to cut rates Jan 01 - how did that work out?

Now the government is trying to prop up housing prices......to be continued.

Geithners' "Mo Mod" coming out soon to reduce principle on mortgages.
See link on Drudge Report. I'm on my phone so I can't put the link up.
He's using the rest of the TARP money looks like.
 
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They know if they can't stop this next wave the banks are toast.
 
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I always respect the bears but only to a certain extent. The market as a whole is in a healing process instead of in the calm before the next storm. I've always been a rider on the storm racing my Ducati from cycle to cycle. I totally missed the tech bubble - I was enjoying my dullards during that time period and made considerable money in the rally from March'03 to October '07 - so I have no regrets. I'm ready for history to repeat. Remember DCAing is the redeemer of all portfolios and I continue to follow my discipline because eventually every dog has his day. Woof and Snort.
 
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Give us your best snort about this article? :D

S&P 500 Dividends Projected to Decline 13.3% in 2009
Worst Annual Decline Since World War II

NEW YORK, Feb. 6 /PRNewswire/ -- Standard & Poor's Index Services announced today that it expects 2009 S&P 500 dividends to decline 13.3%, the worst annual decline since 1942 when dividends fell 16.9%. The $24.60 dividend rate translates into an expected $214.66 billion in payments for S&P 500 companies in 2009 versus the $28.39, or $247.9 billion, paid in 2008.

http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/02-06-2009/0004967788&EDATE=

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I still think if one is looking for yield, SPY is your best bet to avoid high dividend risk.
 
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November 20th was the day the DJIA gap and its 200 day moving average registered its highest level in 60 years with a reading of 34% - definitely a contrarian's wake up call. If anyone is waiting for hard evidence of an economic turn up the market will be up 50% before you get your hard evidence. We are now at the start of a bullish advance that lasts into July. Nice unemployment numbers this morning which is actually a bullish sign.

"The market leads the economy. And sometimes by as much as 6 months and up to 1.5 years. Following the terrible bear markets of 1973-74 and 1980-82 - the two downturns to which the current one is most often compared - unemployment peaked well after the market turned upwards. In the first case, a bull market began Oct 3, and unemployment didn't peak until May 1975. In the second case, the bull run began Aug. 12, 1982, and the jobless rate didn't start declining until January 1983."

ibid. John Reese 1/26/2009 - commentary - Strategy Lab previously posted somewhere in the back.
 
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I still think if one is looking for yield, SPY is your best bet to avoid high dividend risk.
I would have thought so too, but for the near future I'm skeptical.:suspicious:
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Regarding dividends and the possibility of dividend reductions and suspensions. There are over 5,000 individual companies and only 500 S&P stocks. You just gotta take your chances - sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Just about every week I have one of my companies announcing a dividend increase and every now and then I catch a reduction which is to be expected. Being widely diversified with 323 stocks means that I'll be just fine with my discipline of dividend reinvestment. I collected four just yesterday.
 
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As most already know I enjoy pessimism sprinkled with plenty of bull tinky. At the depth of a recession earnings will look awful when compared with earnings of a year earlier. But because the stock market looks forward rather than backwards, it more often than not will rise in anticipation of the economic recovery that is just around the corner. The stock market tends to boom for seven years following a period when dividend yields are high. Be right and sit tight.
 
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There will be plenty of noise over the weekend and probably enough anxiety to trip this highly compressed market into a strong rally - could we have the infamous blast off of 1000 points. Now that would cause some serious diarrhea and flood the bear woods. With nine trillion dollars camping on the sidelines as well as all the refi money available to invest, we could have a doozy to the upside. Since these are anything but average times, everything will likely be well above the norms. We could be setting up for a replay like August 1982 when the last secular bull got started when there were absolutely no believers accept yours truly - and I rode the thunder on that move making substantial dollars. Come git some while you can. Snort.
 
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Birchtree,
You make me want to sell all my toys and invest in the market. I'm so excited.:)
 
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With nine trillion dollars camping on the sidelines as well as all the refi money available to invest, we could have a doozy to the upside. Since these are anything but average times, everything will likely be well above the norms.

Let's not forget, folks are already beginning to receive their tax returns from 2008.
 
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It may be a good idea to get your TAX returns in early, before they cancel all refunds to support the welfare state, spread the wealth?:worried:
 
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Getting a tax refund to me is like being in the G fund - I just can't remember when the last time was that that happened.
 
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