Birchtree's Account Talk

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I might be getting ready to take up another position in some of my agriculture stocks on a dollar cost averaging basis. I bought back into AKS today at $15.14 and had originally sold the majority of my previous position between $39 and $42 - then it preceded to run up to $69 before slipping back to $20. I keep thinking about the prices of October '07 and when we may see those valuations again - need to plan for at least a three year run. RT has caught my eye again. Gee, there are just so many adorable dull wall flowers waiting for a home so they can mature into special beauties.
 
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BT, What market conditions would cause to sell the majority of your stocks?
 
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Son of Jimmy Crickets - this has been brutal. I have not sold a single stock and don't plan to, indeed my plan is to begin buying. We are seeing emotional panic margin call redemption by the hedge funds and the mutual funds are selling. My asset base remains intact and those stocks will be my saving grace when the turn around arrives. The problem is I've been through these foolish crises before and those experiences are providing guidance today - I will hold my own. Let'em sell everything down to zero and I'll still be standing - this is a time when common sense has to prevail. I first rode the thunder during the 73-74 bottom but didn't have much money on the line so that experience was basically a learning experience. Then came the three October massacres of 77,78,79, these were get to know yourself gut checks and I know my emotions. After that came the 1982 bottom and I made a lot of money during that recovery - hundreds of thousands of dollars. The '87 crash was freaky and I came damn close to pulling the trigger but held off and eventually rejoiced. I stayed away from the tech boom realizing there was just too much hype and as a result survived the triple bottom of 2002-2003. Now we have a 6,000 point drop in a year and I refuse to participate in emotional liquidations but will hold the line and let my dividends do some of the heavy lifting - I have my buy list made up with 179 stocks to DCA into and to me this is opportunity time and gee the pain sure hurts but I'll just close my eyes and hold my nose and jump. These prices are back to the October '02 lows and we've just wiped out 5 years of a bull market over nonsense. We are finishing up the cyclical bear market and soon the next leg of the mega trend secular bull will start - I firmly believe this. Until then I'll continue to ride the thunder. Been wrong but staying strong and sitting tight. Back to a $10 price on the C fund - what a blessing for new employees. Use your courage and throw that money down the well and accumulate as many shares as possible - I get my 80 shares today after the close. Got to keep running in front of that train with my new balance treads.
 
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Got to keep running in front of that train with my new balance treads.


I got tired of getting run over by the train. I had gotten out back in January with about a 9% loss and had fought my way back with a couple of good quick in-and-out trades to about even for the year. Now, believing I was really slick and totally understood what was going on, I jumped in last Monday in 50% stock funds and proceeded to lose about 7% in three short days. So, I'm out with a little over 7% loss for the year. In my opinioin, this market is very different from the 2000 downdraft - in that market, a bunch of overpriced tech stocks lost their inflated value. If I remember correctly, all the government did during the entire slide was cut interest rates and let natural market forces take care of the rest. Now, it seems that the government is pulling every rabbit-out-of-the-hat that it has and is still unable to get a handle on it. Even if we do manage to stop the bleeding, I don't believe the markets will have confidence restored any time soon for a sustained rebound.

In short, because of the massive government intervention in what was a fairly well understood global financial system (primarily privately-run), I'm not sure what we will have when the immediate crisis is finally over and how long it will take to get back to some sense of "normalcy". So, I'm inclined to take my losses and sit on the sidelines until the long-term indicators say that market confidence has been restored. I may look at picking up some good brand-name stocks outside of our TSP for the long term (such as GE) while they ae cheap, but that may be it for awhile for me.

Cluck! Cluck! from Chickletville!

BTW, I went back to the lilly pad 100% COB yesterday.
 
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How about a little WEN - I watched it go from $4 to $39 in the last cycle. Guess where it's selling right now?
 
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.... Now, it seems that the government is pulling every rabbit-out-of-the-hat that it has and is still unable to get a handle on it. Even if we do manage to stop the bleeding, I don't believe the markets will have confidence restored any time soon for a sustained rebound.
I think they're running outta rabbits...

G7 will provide a dim light on the subject, but I still think we are going down 10-20% more.......:cool:
 
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If nothing positive results from the G7 Meeting this weekend I believe you can count on more to the down side at least in the short term. We have to deal with the CPI and PPI next week and I really don't see how they can be encouraging. The price of Gas and Oil will effect the Price Index numbers when the lower prices finally trickle down but is not counted in the CPI and PPI numbers.:cool:
 
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I think they're running outta rabbits...

G7 will provide a dim light on the subject, but I still think we are going down 10-20% more.......:cool:

I agree, as I said in Corepunchers account, this market has a way to go down. Instead of staying in to ride the bounce, I have decided to save capital and then enter at the preceived bottom. Even if Im off by a week the gains will far outweigh the losses this market could of given me. I feel lucky to only be down -11.5%.

Geaux
 
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If nothing positive results from the G7 Meeting this weekend I believe you can count on more to the down side at least in the short term. We have to deal with the CPI and PPI next week and I really don't see how they can be encouraging. The price of Gas and Oil will effect the Price Index numbers when the lower prices finally trickle down but is not counted in the CPI and PPI numbers.:cool:
For sure and good call, but really, the price of gold has me worried. Too many people went that route and it is keeping the dollar at a wierd level.

I agree, as I said in Corepunchers account, this market has a way to go down. Instead of staying in to ride the bounce, I have decided to save capital and then enter at the preceived bottom. Even if Im off by a week the gains will far outweigh the losses this market could of given me. I feel lucky to only be down -11.5%.

Geaux
I'm down 12.5%, (Note to Mr. Long) due to capital preservation, and don't care on the bottom. I care about moving up and when I know all the indicators are right, I will be~In like Flynn!!!

Great weekend all!:cool:
 
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Nnuut,

One of the biggest components of the CPI these days is the equivalent rents numbers - I think CPI will be on target.
 
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Oh for the love of pain. Pains taking investors - literally, those who can take the pain of a bear market that seems to drop another 5% everyday - will ultimately triumph, by patiently amassing greater and greater equity positions at better and better prices. The sun will shine once again when the whimpy hedge funds are done selling their margin calls. This is truly a once in a life time opportunity for valuations for all stocks. I plan to buy myself into happiness by buying even more shares more cheaply before the bounce back if the market does not do a big V. I see members showing courage and moving into the stock funds and it makes me proud. If you are still in your saving and investing years, a bear market if it hurts enough is a gift from the financial gods - and the longer it lasts, the better off you will be. Instead of running from the bear, you should embrace him and stay in front of the train. Yesterday everything was being jettisoned, regardless of fundamental or intrinsic value and as the panic approached maximum intensity and prices were accelerating into a verticle descent, some fool was buying securities at firesale prices - was that you Bullitt? I just love a good market panic almost as much as I do smelling the good superlative bull manure.

It's time to readily admit that the probability of a correction within a larger bull market has now been destroyed by major breaks on the various MCO's. It was a tough road to go against but it's hard to beat the stupidity of 6,000 hedge funds trying to get out of the door all at the same time. But I'm still standing and have yet to sell a single stock - where as everything I bought over the last 12 months pummeled me unmercifully and I'm now prepared to DCA into those same issues much cheaper - Allah these prices are golden.

The NYSE common stock breadth has recorded five 90% down days over the past nine days. That has not happened before in 27 years of data collection. The SPX and DJIA are now probing their 2002-03 bases. The number of stocks making lows is at a record (2901 on the NYSE yesterday), the percentage of stocks above their own 200-day average is at levels last seen in 1987 - these are all signs of capitulation. Volume on the NYSE yesterday was 11.16 billion shares. Was this a classic selling climax - it qualifies in my opinion. A climax usually begins the base-building process. History tells us that there will be a rebound and then another test - not this time. We will either grind up or rocket up from this level because it is all emotion. Did somebody say the VIX hit an intraday level of 75. The TRIN was high also. The percentage of NYSE stocks trading above their own 200-day moving average is about as close to zero as you can get - probably 3%. One advantage I may have is the experience of going through several bear markets and I'm going to treat this one like 1987. I'll be buying on every opportunity that is presented via DCA. I'm no hero so I'll take my time adding to my existing positions and adding a few more dull wall flowers as I move along. With a portfolio of 302 hungry mouths it pays to be selective. There is important support at the 2002-03 lows which for the SPX is at 965-870, and for the DJIA is at 9075-8250, although we did drop as low as 7882 on an intraday basis for the Dow. If that level doesn't hold we're headed to 7533-7197 - bring it I'll handle it. I reviewed my profit gain so far this year out of curiosity thinking about which sacrificial lamb will be required to pay my taxes. After adjusting my losses for FAN and FRE as well as LEH I'm still up $140K. And the year ain't over yet. I should be depressed but my feet are dancing under my desk because with my asset base still intact I know what may come next....mucho dollars. I'll take a one thousand point day and be humble about the gains or I'll settle for the sideways grind and DCA my cash along with my dividends.
 
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Oh for the love of pain. Pains taking investors - literally, those who can take the pain of a bear market that seems to drop another 5% everyday - will ultimately triumph, by patiently amassing greater and greater equity positions at better and better prices. The sun will shine once again when the whimpy hedge funds are done selling their margin calls. This is truly a once in a life time opportunity for valuations for all stocks. I plan to buy myself into happiness by buying even more shares more cheaply before the bounce back if the market does not do a big V. I see members showing courage and moving into the stock funds and it makes me proud. If you are still in your saving and investing years, a bear market if it hurts enough is a gift from the financial gods - and the longer it lasts, the better off you will be. Instead of running from the bear, you should embrace him and stay in front of the train. Yesterday everything was being jettisoned, regardless of fundamental or intrinsic value and as the panic approached maximum intensity and prices were accelerating into a verticle descent, some fool was buying securities at firesale prices - was that you Bullitt? I just love a good market panic almost as much as I do smelling the good superlative bull manure.

It's time to readily admit that the probability of a correction within a larger bull market has now been destroyed by major breaks on the various MCO's. It was a tough road to go against but it's hard to beat the stupidity of 6,000 hedge funds trying to get out of the door all at the same time. But I'm still standing and have yet to sell a single stock - where as everything I bought over the last 12 months pummeled me unmercifully and I'm now prepared to DCA into those same issues much cheaper - Allah these prices are golden.

The NYSE common stock breadth has recorded five 90% down days over the past nine days. That has not happened before in 27 years of data collection. The SPX and DJIA are now probing their 2002-03 bases. The number of stocks making lows is at a record (2901 on the NYSE yesterday), the percentage of stocks above their own 200-day average is at levels last seen in 1987 - these are all signs of capitulation. Volume on the NYSE yesterday was 11.16 billion shares. Was this a classic selling climax - it qualifies in my opinion. A climax usually begins the base-building process. History tells us that there will be a rebound and then another test - not this time. We will either grind up or rocket up from this level because it is all emotion. Did somebody say the VIX hit an intraday level of 75. The TRIN was high also. The percentage of NYSE stocks trading above their own 200-day moving average is about as close to zero as you can get - probably 3%. One advantage I may have is the experience of going through several bear markets and I'm going to treat this one like 1987. I'll be buying on every opportunity that is presented via DCA. I'm no hero so I'll take my time adding to my existing positions and adding a few more dull wall flowers as I move along. With a portfolio of 302 hungry mouths it pays to be selective. There is important support at the 2002-03 lows which for the SPX is at 965-870, and for the DJIA is at 9075-8250, although we did drop as low as 7882 on an intraday basis for the Dow. If that level doesn't hold we're headed to 7533-7197 - bring it I'll handle it. I reviewed my profit gain so far this year out of curiosity thinking about which sacrificial lamb will be required to pay my taxes. After adjusting my losses for FAN and FRE as well as LEH I'm still up $140K. And the year ain't over yet. I should be depressed but my feet are dancing under my desk because with my asset base still intact I know what may come next....mucho dollars. I'll take a one thousand point day and be humble about the gains or I'll settle for the sideways grind and DCA my cash along with my dividends.

Bt,

Thanks for letting us know your thoughts. I hope you are right. You are assuming we are in the same world environment that we have been in for the last 50 years and that 2008-9 will just play out like 1987-8.

I think we are in a fundamental different state. It may play out like the period of 1967 to 1982 where if you bought/held then you lost.

This past week's downturn may have been the start of the smart money get out so that 8 years of Osama-Biden can't get it.

Banshee Greg
 
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