Birchtree's Account Talk

[luv2read]

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Allah, Obama is where he is today because of his race and not much else. Did you know we now have 57 states in the U.S.

those 57 states he refers to are the Islamic states. Buster, elucidate. I deleted the PM in which you explained...

 

[Birchtree]

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Folks don't be confused - the candidates are McCain and Obama - Bush is not in the picture. Some don't like the word surge but I do. The surge has done more than turn the situation in Iraq around, it has opened the door to a major strategic victory in the broader war on terror. This alone will rally up the stock market - victory is upon us.

Barack Obama's candidacy is not qualitatively different from Al Sharpton's or Jesse Jackson's (unless he has some illigitimate children). Like these more irascible of his forebearers, Mr. Obama's run at the presidency is based more on the manipulation of liberal white guilt than on substance. Messrs. Sharpton and Jackson were challengers, not bargainers. They intimidated the liberal whites and demanded, in the name of historical justice, that they be brought forward. Mr. Obama likes to flatter whites, grants them racial innocence, and hopes to ascend on the back of their gratitude. Two sides of the same coin. Ferdinand doesn't like anyone on his back. We're kicking it up into a higher gear now - can't wait until luv2read joins in.

 

[Buster]

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I'm staying out of this now...

 

[luv2read]

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Folks don't be confused - the candidates are McCain and Obama - Bush is not in the picture. Some don't like the word surge but I do. We're kicking it up into a higher gear now - can't wait until luv2read joins in.

I won't be joining the political discussion because I agree with you about Obama and his beliefs and have said as much elsewhere; and because I also agree with you about John McCain the man, not the poltician. I've said that if the election was today, I wouldn't vote for either of the Democrats or the Republican. No position other than I don't agree with any of them.

 

[Birchtree]

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Why, don't you want deliverance from the shames of your forbearers. This is the opportunity that Obama provides to whites. He is simply too good an opportunity to pass up. And for blacks, here is the chance to document the end of any possible left over inferiority. This is a movement that will end badly when he comes up against McCain. Did you know there are ever increasing more blacks in the GOP - it's no longer one sided, we are truly multiracial.

 

[Birchtree]

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Well if I can't draw in luv2read there is the old standby of Rokid - he'll be along. I'm trying to learn how to talk to liberals. Putting blame on Bush is a cop out - the next four years' direction is what is at stake.

 

[Birchtree]

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Since I've opened this material, someone is bound to come along and ask me why I don't feel the need to experience white guilt. The answer is simple. When I was in Vietnam half the soldiers there were black and we all bled red. There is no difference on the inside.

 

[Buster]

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I won't be joining the political discussion because I agree with you about Obama and his beliefs and have said as much elsewhere; and because I also agree with you about John McCain the man, not the poltician. I've said that if the election was today, I wouldn't vote for either of the Democrats or the Republican. No position other than I don't agree with any of them.

I hear what you're saying and completely understand..But at risk of sounding sexist...I think you owe it to your womanhood and all they worked for to establish the 19th Amendment, to go out and vote November 4th.

 

[XL-entLady]

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I hear what you're saying and completely understand..But at risk of sounding sexist...I think you owe it to your womanhood and all they worked for to establish the 19th Amendment, to go out and vote November 4th.

Buster - Wow, gold star!!

I recently attended a lecture at Independence Hall in Philadelphia. The speaker was talking about when the Declaration of Independence said that "all men are created equal" it actually meant "all free white male landowners"!

Steady so eloquently stated that we still have a long way to go. But we have come a long way in the last 200 years!

Lady

 

[Steadygain]

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I won't be joining the political discussion because I agree with you about Obama and his beliefs.

Oh Darling,
Are you letting these racial slams and BS brian wash your mind. Don't L2R - you are smart enough and independent enough to make your own decisions. Oh sweet one - don't get sucked into all this garbage. Read his books - see what's really inside him and makes him tick; look at his support system on the various levels that are crucial to a solid government and society.

Don't let the garbage crap that's dominating anti black; anti christian; anti muslim; or pro republician views distract you from the obvious truth.

Check it out for yourself - see what each of them honestly represents: What kind of government will dominate the next 4 years and which government do you honestly believe is best for this country and best for you and me.

cheers are growing ..... thank you ladies and gents.. thank you kindly

 

[Asylum]

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[Steadygain]

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Steady so eloquently stated that we still have a long way to go. But we have come a long way in the last 200 years!

Lady

Sweetheart, I'm just taking a 2 minute break then need to run. Did I ever tell you how wonderful it is having you on the MB. How you seem to radiate with insightfulness and I think you're simply amazing.

Have a great weekend !!

Steady

 

[Birchtree]

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Steadygain,

My dear friend there have been no racial slams or garbage crap mentioned - you are forgetting your manners of etiquette. To me the obvious truth is that Obama presents himself as an opportunity for certain whites to experience racial innocence. You are free to disagree and form your own opinions, but that is my opinion. I've never referred to anything you've said as garbage - the last person that referred to my thoughts as garbage soon turned into burnt toast and faded. Simply, the force behind Obama is about race and nothing else. Mr. Obama will never show his real self and remains largely invisible. Bargainers are always laboring to stay invisible. The election may simply come down to character again - who has it and who doesn't. Let us see him as the real man - the man that spent 20 years attending Sunday after Sunday an Afrocentric, black nationalist church with his two young daughters - sitting in front of Rev. Jeremiah Wright full of his rhetorical hatred and anti-American outrage. Maybe Obama will pick Louis Farakhan as a running mate - that wouldn't come as any surprise. White America has a hunger for racial innocence and redemption from its racist past - let them eat cake while Obama offers appeasement and contrition to our enemies.

 

[Buster]

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Something about what you've been saying has a familar ring to it...could this be it?

This Beast will reign for 42 months (13:5), for 1.260 days (12:6), for the 42 months that the Two Prophets gave witness (11:2), for the 3.5 years that the Great Tribulation will last (Mat.24:21-30): "5: And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months; 6: it opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his sanctuary, that is, those who dwell in heaven."… and, though he was adored as a god, he spoke boastful and blasphemous words against the real God and his sanctuary.


The Second Beast, (the False Prophet of 16:13): Rev.13:11-18:
1- The Second Beast is called the False Prophet in Rev.16:13: "13:11: Then I saw another beast which rose out of the earth; it had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon."
- He is also a human person, a religious one. He is most deceiving: He looks as good as the real Jesus Christ, like the Lamb of God, but he speaks and acts like Satan.
- He rises from the "earth", which in the Bible stands for "the good ordained religion"… he actually will come from the real Church of Christ!, as St. John proclaims: "Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us" (1Jn.2:18-19).
This statement of St. John applies also for the First Beast, the Antichrist: Some scholars think he will be a Jew, but this statement of St. John clearly indicates that he will be a Christian from the real Church of Christ.

 

[Birchtree]

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Well I don't have a clue. I was an alter boy for two years when I was much younger and gave up organized religion while I was in Vietnam. The last time I was in a church was in 1969 and I only lasted for ten minutes. I live my dedicated life without the confines of any organized religion. I remember one year when I sent my daughter to a church affiliated summer camp (Seventh Day Adventist). She asked me what she should tell them in case anyone asked what religion she followed. I told her to tell them that she was from the one true religion - that of a home baptist. That probably turned a few heads.

 

[kar_crazy]

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imo for to me i am glad to have a president that goes to war those that just keep saying we will not tolerate just dont cut the mustard for me i just wonder is some forget the bombing on our grounds please never forget sometimes you have to go to war if you set around and keep saying we will not tolerate but yeat do nothing about to me is worthless
i just cant bring myself to vote for someone that is against standing up for this great country,we cant just set back and let them blow up our people ask many soldiers that are missing limbs but yeat they still say if they had a chance to do it all over they would still do it again i am proud to bleed red white and blue and very proud of our soldiers but this great country let us have our own opinions i pray everyday for our troops GOD BLESS AMERICA and for our troops a big time THANK YOU

 

[Buster]

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Well I don't have a clue. I was an alter boy for two years when I was much younger and gave up organized religion while I was in Vietnam. The last time I was in a church was in 1969 and I only lasted for ten minutes. I live my dedicated life without the confines of any organized religion. I remember one year when I sent my daughter to a church affiliated summer camp (Seventh Day Adventist). She asked me what she should tell them in case anyone asked what religion she followed. I told her to tell them that she was from the one true religion - that of a home baptist. That probably turned a few heads.

Yeah, yeah..I was an alter boy too, disconnected from denominational bidding's.... Jesus said unto Peter...Peter you are the rock and on this rock I will build my church....Okay so I'm my own church , forget about all the affiliations with organized religion..I don't believe it it either...But I am a believer in Heaven and Hell and all that goes with it here after...That's not my point and I don't care what you do to cleanse your soul..The point I'm trying to make here is, In the book of Revelations as I quoted below, it has a striking parallel fruition to it.

 

[Gaetaone]

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I think everyone should get religion... Call me Father John... I like this web site: http://www.ulc.net/ You can start your own church.. My own is the Church of the Holy Fisherman... I try to attend services as often as I can... Thanks to ULC I can even perform weddings.. I think I'll change my affliation and make it the Church of TSP Talk.

Lutheran's... you just can't trust us...

Father John

 

[jimijr]

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I hope not this one..."a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made very one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice and invented hell -- mouths mercy and invented hell -- mouths Golden Rules, and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him!" (Twain)

 

[rokid]

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I hope not this one..."a God who could make good children as easily as bad, yet preferred to make bad ones; who could have made very one of them happy, yet never made a single happy one; who made them prize their bitter life, yet stingily cut it short; who gave his angels eternal happiness unearned, yet required his other children to earn it; who gave his angels painless lives, yet cursed his other children with biting miseries and maladies of mind and body; who mouths justice and invented hell -- mouths mercy and invented hell -- mouths Golden Rules, and forgiveness multiplied by seventy times seven, and invented hell; who mouths morals to other people and has none himself; who frowns upon crimes, yet commits them all; who created man without invitation, then tries to shuffle the responsibility for man's acts upon man, instead of honorably placing it where it belongs, upon himself; and finally, with altogether divine obtuseness, invites this poor, abused slave to worship him!" (Twain)

Mysterious Stranger. An interesting book from Mark Twain's bitter period. I prefer Huckleberry Finn. ----Jim