Birchtree's Account Talk

[Birchtree]

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In my own little way I'm simply trying to do my part as an American. Will an Obama victory mean America's redemption from its racist past. Mr. Obama's run at the presidency is based more on the manipulation of white guilt than on substance. Mr. Obama has turned his blackness into his great political advantage as destiny, and also into a kind of personal charisma. Bargainers are conduits of white innocence, and they are as popular as the need for liberal white innocence is strong. Mr. Obama's extraordinary dash to the forefront of American politics is less a measure of the man than of the hunger in liberal white America for racial innocence.

 

[Birchtree]

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Wasn't it Geraldine Ferraro that said Mr. Obama is in his position as a front runner but for his race. But whatever her motives, she was right. The force that is pulling Obama forward is race and nothing else. How to turn one's blackness to advantage? Become a bargainer and offer racial innocence and redemption to the liberal white left. They can have him for all I care because I know the truth of what is happening and it will not impact me or my vote. I'll be waiting...

 

[XL-entLady]

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"Ah, Birch me boy," she says with an Irish accent. "Yer one in a million, ye are!"

 

[ezmoney]

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Once intergration reaches it's full potential and everyone is interationally intwine through marriage and we all become bi-racial so that there is absolutely no true race of any kind; then who do gets the blame then.

 

[Warrenlm]

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As this dialog continues this track, maybe someone can answer a question for me. The quote of Obama I heard concerning the number of states was that he had been in 57 so far but had not been in Hawaii or Alaska. That would make the USA 59 states, not 57. I also thought the quote said he was going to be in some other state next. That would make the USA an even 60 states. Why are we shortchanging the discussion by 3 states?

 

[Steadygain]

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Obama is where he is today because of his race and not much else.

Clinton is where she is because she's a woman.

McCain is where he is because he's a man.


Birch my friend - you know whatever you could possibly say (or I could possibly say) can always be countered by someone else.

There is no end to trashing whoever we want to trash and making assumptions - in the event there is not enough hard facts to go with.

Ka Sara -- Sara -- whatever will be - will be
the future's not ours you see ..... Ka Sara .. Sara

Time for everyone to chill and join with the Universal Presense that brings us together as one - One Spirit - One Mind - One People - Let Love prevail and don't allow the trival things (BS) to even enter the picture.

 

[Buster]

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Good News: Obama is NOT Muslim, and the guy in Congress who took his oath on the Koran is a completely different person.
Ok, Bad News: Obama's [former] Pastor is in a time warp and still acts like there are seperate bathrooms, segregated schools with no books, and no service at restaurants for "colored" in the South. Islam or not isn't the issue. He's Christian or he wouldn't have a Pastor Problem.

Oh, 57 states? Did the District of Columbia finally get Statehood? :toung: Or are they now a Territory and don't pay taxes?

 

[XL-entLady]

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Time for everyone to chill and join with the Universal Presense that brings us together as one

Ah, my dear friend, you're back. In every sense of the word. I'm so glad!

Lady

 

[Birchtree]

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That's an interesting question you posed. Why would a biracial person attend for twenty years a black nationalist church - what was he thinking? He was driven by insecurity, by a need to be black despite his biracial background. And so fellow-traveling with a little race hatred seemed a small price to pay for a more secure racial identity. And anyway, wasn't this hatred more rhetorical than real. I don't and won't be able to trust this bugger with my country. But now the floodlight of a presidential campaign has trained on this usually hidden corner of contemporary black life: a mindless indulgence in a rhetorical anti-Americanism as a way of bonding and of asserting one's blackness. Yet Jeremiah Wright, splashed across America's television screens, has shown us that there is no real difference between rhetorical hatred and real hatred. It's time to raise the caution flag on who this cherry really is.

 

[XL-entLady]

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Back to the reason we all visit this MB.

Birch, my permabull friend, are you permanently bullish regarding I Fund as well?

You may find this link interesting:

http://www.fool.com/investing/international/2008/05/27/the-greatest-opportunity-in-our-lifetime.aspx

Lady

 

[Steadygain]

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Ah, my dear friend, you're back. In every sense of the word. I'm so glad!

Lady

Thank you Sweets!

The power was cut off from 8 to 12:20 - so had to do everything by paperwork.

No way to get to the MB; so it was a drag.

Anyway, it's good to be home. :cheesy:

 

[Birchtree]

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I vividly remember 1980 waiting for 1000 on the Dow. I made my first $300K off the 1982 bottom and that was with very little money - I had to pyramid my gains. But back to my fun for the day...

Obama's actual policy positions are little more than Donkey Party boilerplate and hardly a tick different from Hillary's positions. He espouses no galvanizing political idea aside from offereing racia redemption to the liberal white left. He is unable to say what he means by change or hope or the future. And he has failed to say how he would actually be a unifier. By the evidence of his slight political record of 130 present votes in the Illinois state legislature, little achievement in the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama stacks up as something of a mediocrity. When the bargaining mask comes off we will see who he really is...

 

[XL-entLady]

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So, ummm, Birch my one track mind friend, are you a fellow retiree posting this using your own personal computer .... ? Or are you very, very brave.

Lady

 

[love-to-bike]

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Barack Obama stacks up as something of a mediocrity.

Well I gotta say I long for mediocrity after the last 7 years of incompetence, lies and manipulation.

 

[Birchtree]

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And of course you trust Obama to be different, right? Thanks for joining in the conversation.

 

[Tempest]

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And of course you trust Obama to be different, right? Thanks for joining in the conversation.

Stick to stocks.
:laugh:

 

[love-to-bike]

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Thanks, happy to contribute!

As for Obama to be different, well yes, I think he will be. There is a very fundamental difference between Obama & Bush. I think Bush said it best 4 years ago:

"I’m a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office on foreign policy matters with war on my mind. And the American people need to know they got a president who sees the world the way it is.”

Obama is not a war president. He doesn't see his legacy as being cemented as one of the great ones by wagging war and deceiving the American people to support the war. That is a fundamental difference.

Obama, McCain or any other candidate will have flaws, lots of them. But I don't want my president lying to me about their motives about war. What in particular galls me is he is calling on our best and bravest to fight this war (the war that he calls the "struggle for civilization") while the rest of the country (outside of friends and family) sacrifices nothing. If this is indeed such a struggle, shouldn't we be sacrificing as well? To the average American, this war has nothing more than yellow ribbon bumper stickers and some tax breaks. And when our wounded soldiers get home, let's entrust their care to the lowest bidder (IAP) - the same folks that handled the supply of ice to Katrina victims. Oh the fact that those running IAP are former executives of Haliburton is just a coincidence.

No, almost anyone else will be different than Bush. Even someone as mediocre as Obama.

 

[Steadygain]

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In the U.S. Senate, Barack Obama stacks up...

Welcome to the crowd Birch... I agree...he's definately the man. It's kind of weird - but does your heart kind of go pitter patter when you think of him. I mean he is very smart - seems like everything we need.

 

[Birchtree]

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I'm drawing my thin blue line. Mr. Obama's broad appeal to the liberal white left makes him the first plausible black presidential candidate in American history. And it was Mr. Obama's luck to understand this. Though he may claim that his race was a liability to be overcome, he also surely knew that his race could give him just the edge he needed - an edge that would never be available to a white, not even a white woman. Sure glad I don't feel a strong need to obtain racial innocence and be redeemed from my families past racial denigrations. I relate more with Mr. McCain and will stand with him.

 

[Steadygain]

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Honestly - I have no idea if I'll have a chance to get back to the MB before tonight - so just in case.

Birch - I love you man. Hope everything is going well with Buzz, the new man in your life, your wife and everything else to do with your life. Have a great weekend - oh and congratulations on the GAINS you got today.


Later dude,
Steady