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Solution: Declare All Credit Default Swaps Null And Void

Estimates on the productivity advantage of granite countertops and CDS' were too optimistic.
---The Paulson plan is useless as it only tries to address the degraded value of Asset Backed Securities.
These are neither the source nor the reason for the very real threat of a total financial crash.
Credit Default Swaps of a nominal value of $65+ trillion are in real danger to implode any minute in a chain reaction that will take down half of the worlds financial infrastructure and impair the real economy for a long, long time.
There is only one possible way to avert this event:
International legislative action that immediately declares all Credit Default Swaps null and void.
Here is why:
At the bottom of the inverted financial pyramid are overvalued land, wood structures, dry walls and granite countertops - i.e. cheaply over-build houses.
These were sold to people who could only afford them with mortgages that had unrealistic starting conditions and on the premise that housing prices would continue to rise forever.
These mortgages were bundled, sliced and diced into Mortgage Backed Securities and sold to investors. Home equity loans, car-loans and credit card debt were converted to Asset Backed Securities and sold off.
On top of these MBS/ABS papers some geniuses constructed an additional financial layer.
These were insurance contracts that covered against the default of ABS, MBS and various types of bonds. These insurance contracts, Credit Default Swaps, are totally unregulated private agreements. They were widely created and dealt with when the risk of default of the underlying papers was assumed to be low.
Some of the insurers who issued these CDS never had the capital to back all the policies they wrote. In a competitive environment they offered too low premiums to insure against default risks.
Some insurers partly insured themselves via reinsurance. When they sold a CDS on a bond issue of some $10 million they went to other insurers and bought themselves CDS, let's say $5 million or perhaps even for $20 million. The re-insurers partly re-insured themselves again by buying CDS elsewhere.
Some people simply betted on a change in the default risk of some bonds. They did not even own the MBS or bond in question, but bought or sold insurance against the default of a specific MBS or bond anyway. Some may have bought total insurance from different insurers in a way that a default of the MBS would pay them ten times the nominal value of said MBS.
Imagine you could have ten fire insurances on your home that would each pay out the full value of your house if it burns down. That would probably give you some very hot ideas.
That is exactly the reason why fire insurance regulation prevents such a case. But CDS are unregulated, their originators are unregulated and there is no settlement mechanism for them other than the private contracts between the parties.
The original size of the mortgages going into default are probably $300-500 billion. The total mortgage origination in the last years were a few trillion dollars. These and additionally credit card loans and auto loans that were converted to Asset Backed Securities in a volume of about $6 trillion.
But on top of these $6 trillion of MBS/ABS and bonds insurances, re-insurances and re-re-insurances were written with an estimated total nominal value of some $65+ trillion. The real number is unknown, but it is bigger than the whole worlds yearly GDP.
Now the housing bubble busted. There was simply too much supply created to sustain ever rising prices. Without rising house prices a lot of homeowners had to default on their mortgages.
With the mortgages going into foreclosure, the MBS and other asset backed papers where suddenly less worth than expected. This triggered credit insurance events. People who had bought the Credit Default Swaps suddenly demanded money from their insurers.
It turns out that these insurers, or their re-insurers, or whoever meanwhile carries the now negative side of the CDS in question are out of money and the insurance agreements are worthless. The worlds biggest insurer, AIG, was nationalized because it had written too much credit insurance for too low prices.
The big danger now are not defaulting homeowners. The big danger are not Asset Backed Securities that might lose some value.

The big danger is the pyramid of credit insurances that is certain to come down and that will take with it at least half of the existing finance infrastructure.
Banks, hedge funds, pension funds, municipals and others who bought insurance will find that it is worthless. Banks, hedge funds an others who sold insurances will find that they will have to pay out more than their total capital.
We currently see a credit-freeze because nobody wants to lend to anybody as it is impossible to know how much credit insurance the other party has written or how much it depends on their validity. You do not lend to anyone who might already be bust.
That is the situation we are in and it shows why the Paulson plan is utter crap and nothing but a huge robbery.
The Paulson plan would not help at the bottom of the inverted pyramid, the housing market, and not at the top, in the CDS market.

Paulson knows that the crash of the CDS market is inevitable. His plan is an attempt to let the taxpayer pay for the stabilization of the middle of the pyramid in the hope that the big crash will come only after the election (and in the hope that the loot might help Paulson's beloved Goldman Sachs to survive.)
There is only way to avert the crash.
Declare all CDS contracts, worldwide, as null and void. There is precedence for this:
During the Great Depression, many debt contracts were indexed to gold. So when the dollar convertibility into gold was suspended, the value of that debt soared, threatening the survival of many institutions. The Roosevelt Administration declared the clause invalid, de facto forcing debt forgiveness. Furthermore, the Supreme Court maintained this decision.
The maze of the value and ownership of $65+ trillion of financial credit insurance contracts has frozen the credit markets. Nobody is lending to anybody else because the value of the counterparty is in doubt.
Those $65 trillion reasons for the credit market freeze will never go away without a huge crash that then will have worth consequences than the 1929 stock market crash. The only way to eliminate these reasons is internationally concerted action to declare the legal obligations of all CDS' null and void.
At the same time:
  • all financial exchanges and markets of the world close for a week
  • CDS are declared null and void and new CDS creation is forbidden until new regulation is in place
  • the publicly dealt financial entities have seven days to figure out and publicly restate the value of their liabilities and assets excluding all CDS
  • a onetime windfall tax will be created that socializes overt advantages some entities will have from this
  • the proceed of that tax shall be used to prop up the capital of the big losers in a program comparable to the Reconstruction Finance Corporation of 1932.
To spend taxpayer money to buy up some MBS that lost value will do little to avert the coming CDS crash.
A $700 billion bailout can not save a unregulated $70 trillion CDS market that is under severe stress.
There is precedence that decisive legislative action can solve this really big problem. Unless this is done, all money to prop up the markets by whatever means is simply wasted and will make no difference in the final outcome of the crisis.
After CDS' are gone, Congress should set up a new Home Owners' Loan Corporation to solve the foreclosure problem and stabilize housing prices. This will then stabilize the MBS/ABS markets. Losses will have to be taken, but the catastrophe would be avoided.
If you are a U.S. citizen you may want to call your Congressmen and Senator on this issue. Monday morning might be a good time to do that.


http://www.moonofalabama.org/2008/09/solution-declar.html

If you want more info, google: $65 trillion of CDS issues
 
Good info. Finally, truth starts making a whole lot more sense. If Paulson is aware of this then shame on him for his ruse and approach. He'd have gained respect if he had been honest from the first. Instead his approach has caused a lot more distrust and he will be hated for that. What a waste of everything the honest taxpaying, law abiding citizen has worked so hard to achieve. And these are the type of people in power, that is representing us as a Nation. God help us all.
 
Good info. Finally, truth starts making a whole lot more sense. If Paulson is aware of this then shame on him for his ruse and approach. He'd have gained respect if he had been honest from the first. Instead his approach has caused a lot more distrust and he will be hated for that. What a waste of everything the honest taxpaying, law abiding citizen has worked so hard to achieve. And these are the type of people in power, that is representing us as a Nation. God help us all.

Latest word is the FBI is conducting an investigation of these crooks.
 
3 o'clock fade?
Yes, I think some people thought "imminent" signing meant "today". I advocate avoiding the champage (or maybe whiskey is better since we are going to need something strong to down this) until the bill is actually signed--or not.
 
Yes, I think some people thought "imminent" signing meant "today". I advocate avoiding the champage (or maybe whiskey is better since we are going to need something strong to down this) until the bill is actually signed--or not.

It will be whiskey after we get the bill for this.
 
... anyone think GS will come out smelling like roses? If they're positioned across asia as the largest American IB, it doesn't even matter if they're a depository commercial/regulated bank in the US. They know GDP and growth will be muted here for the next decade. Their chips will be overseas and I imagine they can leverage to the hilt over there. The $700B tab, will be borrowed mostly from China and Japan, paid back to them w/ interest, eventually those assets will be recirculated mostly over there. Paulson and Jim Rogers seem half chinese in their profiles... someone call Oliver Stone to write the screenplay. :)
 
We warned the Chinese and the Japanese, controlling the currency through hoarding dollars was a bad idea. Oh, and we support a strong dollar. I haven't trusted Paulsen since he said that every time he met with finance ministers, because at the same time, we became addicted to letting others prop up our currency. Now that China and Japan have stopped buying $ (wonder why? :toung:) we are trying to give them enough to keep them in the game.
 
October 1st approaches! Fasten your seatbelt!

Just curious what your plan is. I"m sort of leaning toward waiting out most of October for another low. Will be curious how we react to jobs report Friday. I'm thinking a deep red day.
 
October 1st approaches! Fasten your seatbelt!

Just curious what your plan is. I"m sort of leaning toward waiting out most of October for another low. Will be curious how we react to jobs report Friday. I'm thinking a deep red day.

Right now the plan is to move very slow. I'm in no hurry to jump in. Though I will not waste my moves. At a minimum I will make a dash move in and out on very short time frame.
 
The plan is to IFT into the market on Wednesday COB. My move will probably be into the C/S 50/50. I plan on staying long term (2-3 months) and IFT 10% out in increments as we move higher! I'm looking for a 15-25% bounce.:D

Jeff
 
The plan is to IFT into the market on Wednesday COB. My move will probably be into the C/S 50/50. I plan on staying long term (2-3 months) and IFT 10% out in increments as we move higher! I'm looking for a 15-25% bounce.:D

Jeff

Jeff, I believe the odds are in our favor. Thanks to a Jewish holiday, things will be delayed until after Wed. I doubt there will be much rallying until at the very least, they pass a bill, which I doubt will even happen by Thur/Fri.

KD said that the shorting ban has made things worse...some stocks had absolutely zero bids for periods today.

As far as the bill...look, the market was down 2-3% BEFORE the vote in anticipation of the bill actually PASSING!!! Now, at the very least, the bill will be even MORE hostile to financial institutions when it is passed. Good for the US long term, but more pain short term.

It's going to be easy to get emotional for the rest of the week...so come up with a game plan and STICK to it! I'm still trying to figure one out! Whatever I do, unless we break down to 1000, I'm not going 100% stocks. You just have to keep some in cash given the danger out there. Why not go 70 or 80% in stocks? You would still get a very healthy return on a rally, but also have 20-30% to buy even lower if we crash hard.
 
Jeff, I believe the odds are in our favor. Thanks to a Jewish holiday, things will be delayed until after Wed. I doubt there will be much rallying until at the very least, they pass a bill, which I doubt will even happen by Thur/Fri.

KD said that the shorting ban has made things worse...some stocks had absolutely zero bids for periods today.

As far as the bill...look, the market was down 2-3% BEFORE the vote in anticipation of the bill actually PASSING!!! Now, at the very least, the bill will be even MORE hostile to financial institutions when it is passed. Good for the US long term, but more pain short term.

It's going to be easy to get emotional for the rest of the week...so come up with a game plan and STICK to it! I'm still trying to figure one out! Whatever I do, unless we break down to 1000, I'm not going 100% stocks. You just have to keep some in cash given the danger out there. Why not go 70 or 80% in stocks? You would still get a very healthy return on a rally, but also have 20-30% to buy even lower if we crash hard.

Good advice CP. I like it!:D
 
Jeff, I believe the odds are in our favor. Thanks to a Jewish holiday, things will be delayed until after Wed. I doubt there will be much rallying until at the very least, they pass a bill, which I doubt will even happen by Thur/Fri.

KD said that the shorting ban has made things worse...some stocks had absolutely zero bids for periods today.

As far as the bill...look, the market was down 2-3% BEFORE the vote in anticipation of the bill actually PASSING!!! Now, at the very least, the bill will be even MORE hostile to financial institutions when it is passed. Good for the US long term, but more pain short term.

It's going to be easy to get emotional for the rest of the week...so come up with a game plan and STICK to it! I'm still trying to figure one out! Whatever I do, unless we break down to 1000, I'm not going 100% stocks. You just have to keep some in cash given the danger out there. Why not go 70 or 80% in stocks? You would still get a very healthy return on a rally, but also have 20-30% to buy even lower if we crash hard.

Today's rally will probably keep me on the sideline a few more days unless I waste one of my moves and only move 25-50% range in.:confused:
 
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