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Or you can now use TapaTalk again!Anyone know if we are going to have access to any Bitcoin ETF through the window?
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The only bitcoin related fund you can buy right now that I know of is Bitcoin Strategy ProFund Investor (BTCFX). The fund seeks to provide capital appreciation by investing all or substantially all of its assets through managed exposure to bitcoin futures contracts.
You are correct it doesn't track very well at all but it's the only real exposure to Bitcoin that I can find in the window. So far this year I'm getting very close to 50% with BTCFX. With the new administration, I see a very bright future with bitcoin.I am very surprised that there is not more discussion here about BTCFX.
Yes, it does lag the performance of actual BTC.
Yes, it is not intended as a long term set it and forget it type investment.
However, during the BTC bull phase it does extremely well compared to any of the traditional non-MFW TSP options. I'm currently up more than 17% on the portion of my TSP balance that I put into BTCFX at the very end of March 2025.
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I mentioned it in my commentary a few days ago. My wife put her 25% max into BTCFX about 6 months ago with no regrets, but I never did. I play the bitcoin ETFs.
It's certainly worthy of discussion.
Why do you think it is not "set and forget?"
I know why things like 3X leveraged ETFs are dangerous to set and forget because of some high fees, but is there particular reason you wouldn't do that here - except for maybe the high volatility? Are the fees going to eat at it as well?
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Until it is proven that the BTC four year cycle is over I will rotate out of BTCFX in October of this year. I could be missing out on some growth by doing so, but I don't mind.
Growing institutional investment in BTC via the ETFs could mean the four year cycle is a thing of the past, but if everyone is thinking "this time is different" the market has a funny way of proving us wrong.
I'm not worried about the fees. I put 25% of my TSP balance in as well, so incurring fees from a trade or two in a couple of years time is noise.
That said, I think the volatility of any potential drawdown will be somewhat muted compared to previous cycles.Just to update something I did not know about this fund prior to buying in back in late January, 2024. BTCFX pays some pretty righteous dividends when Bitcoin is moving. In 2024 I was paid a little over 22,000 dollars in dividends and so far in 2025 I've been paid at little over 15300 as of July 1. All the dividends are reinvested back into the fund which makes for solid returns so far. My initial investment of a little over 51k in late January 2024 has turned into a little over 121k as of July 2025. My only regret is I didn't buy more back in early 2024. But I still wish we had more options for Bitcoin with lower fees. There really should be something Bitcoin within the regular TSP. Maybe they could call it the B Fund.
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Sweet. I suppose you could always roll some over to an IRA and buy ETFs.
IBIT is Blackrock's bitcoin ETF. It does not pay dividends, but BITO does. It currently has a 57.72% yield.
Agreed. The dividends definitely add up. I'm averaging 10K in monthly dividends on my BTCFX investment since April 2025.Just to update something I did not know about this fund prior to buying in back in late January, 2024. BTCFX pays some pretty righteous dividends when Bitcoin is moving. In 2024 I was paid a little over 22,000 dollars in dividends and so far in 2025 I've been paid at little over 15300 as of July 1. All the dividends are reinvested back into the fund which makes for solid returns so far. My initial investment of a little over 51k in late January 2024 has turned into a little over 121k as of July 2025. My only regret is I didn't buy more back in early 2024. But I still wish we had more options for Bitcoin with lower fees. There really should be something Bitcoin within the regular TSP. Maybe they could call it the B Fund.
Count me all in on any future "B Fund"!
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