Any Other Agnostics Out There?

[Miss_Piggy]

Any one else out there that shares my sense of humor and thinks this funny? Warning this might offend.

Bill Maher on the Daily Show​

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[tsptalk]

He is funny and I do want to see his movie - but the problem I have with him is that he "wants to live in a progressive European nation"?? Well, there are plenty of progressive European nations that he can choose from. Our forefathers left their socialistic european life to start anew in a free nation, one based on the people, not the government. And I do see the irony in that this site is geared toward government employees.

 

[James48843]

Sorry-

I can't support Bill Maher's view of the world.

I used to be agnostic, before I had an encounter with God.

I can tell you today that He is real.

You can believe, or not. That's your choice. After all, this is America.

But I can't support Maher's position.

I'll pray for him instead.

(P.S.- and I am not a Palin/McCain supporter.)

 

[Show-me]

I rather be a Christian and be wrong than a agnostic or atheist and be wrong. Things that make ya go hmmmm.

 

[Buster]

The Spark that started all this, came from the Hand of God..how it goes after that, is up to us..

 

[McDuck]

Miss Peggy, Would tell how you came to be an agnostic?

 

[KevinD]

She doesn't know. Get it? She doesn't know. LOL!!!

I crack myself up. :laugh:

 

[Birchtree]

I'm an agnostic. That's just the way it is.

 

[Callme_CO]

I completely agree with Show-me I would rather live a good (faithbased life) and be wrong then to be forever in damnation. I respect everyones beliefs and respect everyone on this board and consider you all friends regardless of religious or political beliefs.

 

[ChemEng]

There are many, many flaws to Pascal's Wager to be considered a valid argument.

I rather be a Christian and be wrong than a agnostic or atheist and be wrong. Things that make ya go hmmmm.

 

[Show-me]

There are many, many flaws to Pascal's Wager to be considered a valid argument.

Perhaps, but we won't know with 100% certainty until it is too late. Good luck!

 

[Buster]

The Spark that started all this, came from the Hand of God..how it goes after that, is up to us..

And I firmly believe we are not the only ones God is looking after either.

 

[Buster]

I'm an agnostic. That's just the way it is.

You need to read this book.. http://www.hardcoverdeals.com/rel/v2_viewupc.php?storenr=334&upc=0765316765&affnr=-2610

 

[Guest2]

I find Religion has a lot in common with Governmental Training Programs.
Ultimately, each one of us with be faced with the same conflicts;​

REALITY VS. EXPECTATIONS VS. TRAINING​

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[Mike]

I'm an agnostic but don't really like Maher. You could make a movie about any group of people and find enough idiots in that group to make fun of them in order to make a larger point about the group. That doesn't really make a movie funny or insightful - it just makes it selectively vicious and likely serves no constructive purpose whatsoever.

As for why I'm agnostic, I don't think you can prove to me that God exists. You also can't prove he doesn't. There simply isn't sufficient evidence.

 

[budnipper1]

I believe there is a God. I also believe that there are many things which are beyond man's capability to understand. For those things, faith must fill the void.
-P Doyle Brown/budnipper1

-Thomas Henry Huxley(1825 – 1895) came up with the word ‘agnostic’ while searching for a term to describe his own beliefs. He did not consider himself “an atheist, a theist, a pantheist; a materialist or an idealist; [nor] a Christian…” and while he had much in common with freethinkers, he wanted a term to describe himself more accurately. His difference with the people who gave themselves the above labels was that he did not feel certain of his knowledge- or ‘gnosis’- that he “had successfully solved the problem of existence.”

Huxley defined agnosticism as follows, and this is perhaps, the truest definition of the term today: “… it is wrong for a man to say he is certain of the objective truth of a proposition unless he can provide evidence which logically justifies that certainty. This is what agnosticism asserts and in my opinion, is all that is essential to agnosticism.” It is not merely a matter of whether or not one knows if God exists, but it is a matter of whether one can objectively define his belief, whether in God or in anything else.

No philosophical theory which I have yet come across is a radical improvement on the words of Genesis, that 'In the beginning God made Heaven and Earth'.
-C.S. Lewis


If God were small enough to be understood, He would not be big enough to be worshiped.
-Evelyn Underhill
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[James48843]

As for why I'm agnostic, I don't think you can prove to me that God exists. You also can't prove he doesn't. There simply isn't sufficient evidence.

You are right- I can't prove his existence to you. Only He can do that.
Ask Him to show you His evidence. You may be surprised. I know I was.


That said-

It is interesting we can discuss, with civil discourse here, the two major things you don't discuss with co-workers- God and Politics.

Both are topics that we should share with one another.

 

[Show-me]

Back to Maher, why don't he do a film on Hollywood or the Left Coast. Now there would be a film.

I'm an agnostic but don't really like Maher. You could make a movie about any group of people and find enough idiots in that group to make fun of them in order to make a larger point about the group. That doesn't really make a movie funny or insightful - it just makes it selectively vicious and likely serves no constructive purpose whatsoever.

As for why I'm agnostic, I don't think you can prove to me that God exists. You also can't prove he doesn't. There simply isn't sufficient evidence.

 

[Silverbird]

I am not an Agnostic. I belive there is a God, and Jesus Christ is his son. However, I also believe that those outside of my beliefs are not eternally dammed simply because they follow the Great Spirit, or Buddah, or any of the others who show a Way to a virtuous life that are not Jesus or if they are agnostic, as long as they follow a virtuous life. As one evangelical told me, we as Christians cannot say where they will go after death because we simply Don't Know (too bad I met him years ago when I was in High School or else I would have gotten his card!). For me to believe in eternal damnation would be for me to not honor my great grand-mother and father, and those before them who did not know of the Way, and for me that's breaking one of the 10 commandments. So I am Christian, but what I think is open thinking along the lines that the Bible have taught me, makes me heretical to many others to the point that I have not found a place.

 

[Mike]

You are right- I can't prove his existence to you. Only He can do that.

And if he doesn't exist, he can't do that.

Ask Him to show you His evidence. You may be surprised. I know I was.

Just out of curiosity, what was the evidence that you were shown, and why did you attribute it to an omnipotent deity as opposed to coincidence, nature, or some other readily available explanation? Or was it simply a chain of events you couldn't understand or comprehend, so it just got thrown into the realm of the Almighty? Or was it something entirely different? I'm not terribly interested in the "what" regarding others' beliefs; I'm much more interested in the "why" - because I believe "why?" is the most fundamental question of existence.

It is interesting we can discuss, with civil discourse here, the two major things you don't discuss with co-workers- God and Politics.

A lot of this has to do with who is participating in the discussion and what the mentality is. If you enter a discussion to express your opinion / belief *and* are willing to hear others' views without jumping down their throats and telling them they're morons, a healthy discussion can take place. I'm naturally curious about a lot of things (which is why I dwell in the realm of science), so it's difficult to have a knock-down / drag-out type of argument with me.

Both are topics that we should share with one another.

Agreed.