350Z's I fund thread OCT 07

[Jonathan]

We're looking at a 2% loss today and you say that? :blink:

At least he's consistent, even if most observers looking at the data seem to think we're in for a lot more pain than he does.

 

[Jonathan]

We're down around .76% from 11:36 on the DJIA (-fv territory, if it doesn't improve).

 

[350zCommTech]

MSCI EAFE = -.905% or -23 cents.


I was way off today. The folks at MSCI are at it again.

 

[DCguy]

guys, tell me if I'm wrong...
If I fund tanks and you had 50% in I before it tanked, can I just move 50% I to G at the same price it was yesterday and the other 50% in other funds to I to buy at lower price to recover the loss?

 

[350zCommTech]

Here's how the -FV looks:

With the dollar falling in the afternoon, it makes it tough to predict.

1)If Barclay goes conservative, we could see a -20FV for a total of -43 cents.

2)If Barclay goes aggresssive, we could see a -27FV for a total of -50 cents.

3)If they decides to go with the MBS, we could see a -34FV for a total of -57 cents.


I'm betting on #2.

 

[James48843]

guys, tell me if I'm wrong...
If I fund tanks and you had 50% in I before it tanked, can I just move 50% I to G at the same price it was yesterday

Can you sell today at yesterday's value?

No.

Once the value goes down, it's down. The value vanishes. Period.


You can sell it NOW at Monday's COB price if you place your IFT between now and noon on Monday.

...and the other 50% in other funds to I to buy at lower price to recover the loss?

No.

You have to decide before noon which funds you are willing to buy, and which you are willing to sell. You place your order before noon, and whatever the value is that evening, that is the value (price) used to execute your trade. The next day you will find the number of shares your trade actually bought or sold, and what you are now holding.

Win some, loose some. The good thing is that time is on your side- the more years left to retirement, the more time you have to learn from your mistakes, and to save for your future.

 

[infodon]

WOW! what a disaster! Lesson Learned, don't second guess your instincts. I felt last Thursday Friday that the market was telling me things were too high and not to get greedy, but I didn't listen. Even yesterday I thought to get out but NOOOOOO! Did I listen!! Welcome to the house of pain! Guess I will be sititing here for a while until the I and S recover. I won't get greedy again I can tell you that!!

 

[easyrydr]

I must have done somthing good this week. I only lost a total of 370.00 for the whole week. I'm smilin

 

[easyrydr]

Infodon...... Dont get down on yourself it not like all of us have been hit with the perverbial STOCK Market Bat. hehe. I learned along time ago.

 

[The Great Pumpkin]

Don't feel bad "easyrydr", I lost alot this week on top of the $162 I droped somewhere...

 

[Eldritch Flatus]

WOW! what a disaster! Lesson Learned, don't second guess your instincts. I felt last Thursday Friday that the market was telling me things were too high and not to get greedy, but I didn't listen. Even yesterday I thought to get out but NOOOOOO! Did I listen!! Welcome to the house of pain! Guess I will be sititing here for a while until the I and S recover. I won't get greedy again I can tell you that!!

Ufff Da! Well my instinks stink. Most instinks stink. You will be greedy again, I betcha! Part of the world. You gotta have a plan and stick to it, or stick it and get another. So if you have enough room in that house of pain, move over please! Ooowtchhhh! (But no whining). (wimper)

 

[frokker]

19 Oct 07

G 12.17
F 11.71
C 16.85
S 20.39
I 25.13

 

[Corvette]

G fund 12.17

F fund 11.71

C fund 16.85

S fund 20.39

I fund 25.13

 

[350zCommTech]

I fund 25.13

That's a 22 cent -FV.

They went conservative because of the dollar.

 

[James48843]

You got guts, Dennis.

You COULD be right, but then again maybe not.

I still think the momentum is the other direction, and least for a couple of days.

We'll have to wait until Monday to see what happens.

 

[easyrydr]

Hea 350z where you gonna go for Monday. Let us in on a little scoop. :notrust:

 

[Robo5555]

Bad week...no worries!

 

[Robo5555]

Boston or Cleveland?

 

[350zCommTech]

ECB May Have to Raise Interest Rates, Weber Says (Update1)
By Gabi Thesing and Michael Wudonig

Oct. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Axel Weber, a member of the European Central Bank's governing council, said the bank may have to raise interest rates further to quell inflation as the euro- region's economy maintains its expansion.
``I don't believe that interest rates have to support the economy, which is currently growing at 2.5 percent,'' Weber said in an interview in Washington yesterday. ``Inflation risks have increased recently,'' and the bank will ``have to counter these risks should they materialize.''
Weber said there's a ``reasonable probability that inflation may end up above 2 percent in 2008 and possibly in 2009,'' and ``that is reason enough to examine closely if there is a need to adjust'' interest rates. The bank aims to keep inflation just below 2 percent.

Read the rest here:http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=amDwgMvJ10.M&refer=home

This is pure BS inflation controlling talk, but regardless, the European markets will not like this. But, it'll put even more pressure on the falling dollar.

 

[Birchtree]

Bloomberg recently reported that the hiring of commodity traders is up by 33%. That is hardly a sign of growing deflationary expectations (although one could argue it could be considered a contrary signal for the commodity markets).