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Or you can now use TapaTalk again!2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
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James48843
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I’m also hearing there are at least two different strains appearing right now, one more virulent than the other, and the less virulent being more deadly. Again, very little science yet to be able to verify those kinds of claims. So far much of it is simply extrapolation with insufficient hard data to confirm.
I’m also STILL hearing that there isn’t a commercial provider of verifiable testing kits yet- only a few thousand tests have been created, and there is not yet wide distribution in the USA of testing ability.
South Korea is testing far more people and getting far better data than the USA is. I guess having universal health care, as Korea (and almost the entire rest of the planet does) can help in times of needing quick, coordinated reaction.
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k0nkuzh0n
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This is the data from South Korea:
https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=a30402000000&bid=0030&act=view&list_no=366490&tag=&nPage=1
162k negative cases, 7134 confirmed cases. That makes 169k tests with results back already. The US has tested maybe 2k people.
Bullitt
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Or just the fact that there are more cases in South Korea than the US.
Universal healthcare did wonders to prevent the spread in Italy and Iran.
James48843
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They only KNOW about more cases, because they are able to test far more people. I’m hearing of lots of people here, showing symptoms, and not being tested, because nobody has the test protocol, the equipment, or the lab found who can test.
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Re: COVID-19; was 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
the novel coronavirus most closely relates to a severe case of the common cold.
https://www.accuweather.com/en/health-wellness/coronavirus-expert-says-the-virus-will-burn-itself-out-in-about-6-months/679415
n a private conference call organized last week by CLSA, a brokerage firm based in Hong Kong, investment analysts had a chance to ask Nicholls, one of the world's foremost experts on the topic, questions about the novel coronavirus. In the days since the call took place, details of Nicholls' analysis have surfaced on social media and elsewhere online, including a transcript of the call.
Nicholls responded to emailed questions from AccuWeather on Wednesday and confirmed his participation in the discussion, but emphasized that his remarks were made in “a personal capacity” and meant to remain “private.” He said the call was recorded “without my knowledge or consent” and then leaked on social media. When asked by AccuWeather, Nicholls did not dispute any of quotes attributed to him in the leaked transcript. CLSA has not responded to AccuWeather's request for a comment on the conference call.
The transcript of the call showed Nicholls believes weather conditions will be a key factor in the demise of the novel coronavirus. Referencing the SARS outbreak from 2002 and 2003, Nicholls said he thinks similar weather factors will also shut down the spread of the novel coronavirus.
"Three things the virus does not like: 1. Sunlight, 2. Temperature, and 3. Humidity," Nicholls said in response to a question about when he thinks confirmed cases will peak.
However, Nicholls also said that he doesn't consider SARS or MERS, a Middle Eastern novel virus that spread in 2012, to be an accurate comparison for this year's outbreak. Rather, the novel coronavirus most closely relates to a severe case of the common cold.
James48843
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Re: COVID-19; was 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
latest- Airlines cancelling flights now to Italy.
Latest numbers from Italy:
There are over 7,300 hundred cases of COVID-19 confirmed in Italy, of which 622 have since recovered and 366 people have died.
Delta suspending flights to Rome:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrap...-suspended-some-flights-to-rome/#14dc50c05f87
Dozens of other airlines either reducing schedules, or suspending flights entirely to China, Korea, Italy, Iran, and others:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...hts-due-to-coronavirus-outbreak-idUSKBN20W0NV
and
Israel bans all foreigners unless they can show they can be quarantined for 14 days.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...el-may-quarantine-some-u-s-arrivals-1.8638322
James48843
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Breakthrough: Chloroquine phosphate has shown apparent efficacy in treatment of COVID-19
This is exciting! Chloroquine is an old, cheap, and safe drug that's given for malaria.
The Chinese are using it in clinical trials to treat COVID-19 pneumonia in the sickest patients and it appears to be working! Blocks the infection.
If this holds up could be a game changer.
Here's the publication:
https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bst/advpub/0/advpub_2020.01047/_pdf
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James48843
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Guess who just ordered all Federal Agencies to make Corona Virus information "Classified "?
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Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources
By Aram Roston and Marisa Taylor
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.
The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.
Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.
“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”
The sources said the National Security Council (NSC), which advises the president on security issues, ordered the classification.“This came directly from the White House,” one official said.
More:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-white-house-told-federal-163043805.html
weatherweenie
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nnuut
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They were having top-level coronavirus meetings to determine what the Hell to do. When they have determined what needs to be done they will Put the results out!
James48843
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Virus begins to hit Feds- 3 TSA Screeners test positive at San Jose, California Airport- Union asks for N95 Masks for all Screeners, MGT says no.
More At Govexec.com:
https://www.govexec.com/management/...agencies-scramble-keep-employees-safe/163709/
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Without key personnel that didn't have the security clearance. How can you make proper decisions without key medical personnel in the room?
weatherweenie
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Precisely. Not to mention, the move to classify also prevents, temporarily, the evidence getting out that the handling of this crisis was severely bungled. Just a week or two ago Larry Kudlow famously said, 'we have the virus contained.' Right up there with W's 'you're doing a hell of a job Brownie'.
Bullitt
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Cases in Iran keep going up. But that's what happens when you act like a neanderthal and LICK the door of a highly infected location. (Video in link below)
https://nypost.com/2020/03/02/iranians-licking-religious-shrines-in-defiance-of-coronavirus-spread/
https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-51706021
k0nkuzh0n
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Italy numbers were pretty bad today. They were already bad, at 368, 349, and 345 deaths the past 3 days... but just reported 475 deaths in the past day. 4207 new cases, which previous peak was 3590. For reference, China peaked at about 150 deaths per day. Italy will pass China in total deaths tomorrow, with only half the total cases. Their Case fatality rate started off pretty typical, around 3.5%, but has been steadily rising. Now is at 8.3% (deaths / # cases). I don't really want to speculate... but I imagine the increase is at least partly due to their health care system being overrun.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
The entire country of Italy has been under quarantine.Similar threads
