Women oppose Pay-for-performance program

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From Govexec.com:

Women's group pushes overhaul of pay-for-performance programs

By Alyssa Rosenberg arosenberg@govexec.com
January 8, 2010

Federally Employed Women plans to lobby Congress and the Obama administration to make changes in pay-for-performance programs after a majority of FEW members said in a survey they did not support their agencies' alternative pay systems.

"We firmly believe that just pointing out problems does not help," said Sue Webster, national president of the employee affinity group. "We are also offering solutions on how to fix these problems, including more training, safeguards, data collection and required action plans."

A survey of 224 FEW members who work under pay-for-performance systems found that, 65 percent, or 146 respondents, did not back the alternative compensation systems. Most cited implementation issues, rather than the principle of linking pay to quality of work, FEW said. The organization's members highlighted issues such as a lack of training and instructions for managers, pay pool panels with no connections to the workers whose salaries they determine, and an emphasis on writing rather than presentation skills in evaluations.

FEW members did praise pay-for-performance systems for requiring annual meetings between employees and supervisors, giving workers a better sense of how their jobs fit into larger organizational efforts.

The survey results have prompted the group to seek a number of reforms for existing and future performance-based pay programs. First, FEW will argue for the establishment of outside, independent review boards to adjudicate employee appeals of negative evaluations. The organization suggested that the Office of Personnel Management create a pool of experts in performance evaluation to staff such panels.

And FEW wants to see the development of a governmentwide data collection program that would track raises, bonuses, and salary increases by race and gender.

"If the government moves to a new personnel system, then it is absolutely essential that as much data as possible be collected on employment trends and advancements," the group argued in a new position paper. "It is essential that it be closely monitored whether compensation is becoming biased against women or minorities as any new pay system is implemented."

FEW also plans to suggest procedural changes for performance evaluations, including staggering them throughout the year to avoid overburdening supervisors by requiring them to conduct reviews all at once; involving employees' peers in the evaluation process to provide more perspective on their performance; and allowing employees to submit oral statements on CD in lieu of written forms, to let them to document their work in the medium with which they are most comfortable.

Cecelia Davis, FEW's vice president for congressional relations, said she hopes the organization can have a productive role in implementing the proposed changes. Both OPM Director John Berry and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., have said the federal pay and employee evaluations system need reform, but it is not clear whether they will pursue governmentwide pay for performance.

"It is our assumption, because it is a stated goal of Director Berry's, that some type of government reform is coming down the pike," said Janet Kopenhaver, Washington representative for FEW. "Our goal was to offer some suggested solutions in anticipation of this reform...we do think that some type of pay-for-performance system will result."

Source: http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0110/010810ar1.htm?oref=todaysnews
 
Hoo boy, the whole oral vs. written thing. I had a grad school friend who had been educated in the Italian system for his first degree-testing was entirely oral. He came to the states where the tests were all written. Even tho his spoken English was pretty good, he really struggled with written tests, even tho he knew the material.

However, for employees to request a pass on describing their performance orally vs. written? what if part of the SKAs for their job involve proficiency in written communication? No pass for those folks in my book.
 
Ha. I'm against how it was implemented, at least where I work (it was a trial ballon project run in a different office). The Old Timers would get each other on the easiest, and/or most visible and funded projects and leave the **** ones to those who were not in the leet group (and if they didn't take them, they'd have nothing to do all day). And of course, the leets got all the successes, and no one else got any bonus or pay raises. If you think the current system is bad for new hires, this was the total you know what. They could have filmed it and pretended it was "The Office", except it definately was not funny.:sick: The corridor buzz had some of the worst rhetoric ever.

Oh, and the SKA's? If your project wasn't one of the priority ones, or didn't pan out, or if you happened to just be doing the scut work that needed to be done but wasn't a priority, it didn't matter what you wrote. If the keywords were not there, you didn't count. Oh, and as people quit, their scut projects would be dumped on the non-leets.
 
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Women's group pushes overhaul of pay-for-performance programs

Well, I can't blame them. :mad:

This 'pay for performance' is about the most demeaning aspect we have not only allowed -- but have forced many women into. Its sexist and demeaning.

What makes it a thousand times worse is that one has to strive to outdo the others .... but the payers easily become 'bored' and it seems something new and exciting has to be done.

Well a woman can only do so much -- and so in the end no matter how hard she tries and the extent she expends her energies -- the price always goes down; making her feel less valuable.

So I think an overhaul is long overdo ...... and things need to change.
 
From Govexec.com:

Women's group pushes overhaul of pay-for-performance programs

By Alyssa Rosenberg arosenberg@govexec.com
January 8, 2010

Federally Employed Women plans to lobby Congress and the Obama administration to make changes in pay-for-performance programs after a majority of FEW members said in a survey they did not support their agencies' alternative pay systems.

"We firmly believe that just pointing out problems does not help," said Sue Webster, national president of the employee affinity group. "We are also offering solutions on how to fix these problems, including more training, safeguards, data collection and required action plans."

A survey of 224 FEW members who work under pay-for-performance systems found that, 65 percent, or 146 respondents, did not back the alternative compensation systems. Most cited implementation issues, rather than the principle of linking pay to quality of work, FEW said. The organization's members highlighted issues such as a lack of training and instructions for managers, pay pool panels with no connections to the workers whose salaries they determine, and an emphasis on writing rather than presentation skills in evaluations.

FEW members did praise pay-for-performance systems for requiring annual meetings between employees and supervisors, giving workers a better sense of how their jobs fit into larger organizational efforts.

The survey results have prompted the group to seek a number of reforms for existing and future performance-based pay programs. First, FEW will argue for the establishment of outside, independent review boards to adjudicate employee appeals of negative evaluations. The organization suggested that the Office of Personnel Management create a pool of experts in performance evaluation to staff such panels.

And FEW wants to see the development of a governmentwide data collection program that would track raises, bonuses, and salary increases by race and gender.

"If the government moves to a new personnel system, then it is absolutely essential that as much data as possible be collected on employment trends and advancements," the group argued in a new position paper. "It is essential that it be closely monitored whether compensation is becoming biased against women or minorities as any new pay system is implemented."

FEW also plans to suggest procedural changes for performance evaluations, including staggering them throughout the year to avoid overburdening supervisors by requiring them to conduct reviews all at once; involving employees' peers in the evaluation process to provide more perspective on their performance; and allowing employees to submit oral statements on CD in lieu of written forms, to let them to document their work in the medium with which they are most comfortable.

Cecelia Davis, FEW's vice president for congressional relations, said she hopes the organization can have a productive role in implementing the proposed changes. Both OPM Director John Berry and House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., have said the federal pay and employee evaluations system need reform, but it is not clear whether they will pursue governmentwide pay for performance.

"It is our assumption, because it is a stated goal of Director Berry's, that some type of government reform is coming down the pike," said Janet Kopenhaver, Washington representative for FEW. "Our goal was to offer some suggested solutions in anticipation of this reform...we do think that some type of pay-for-performance system will result."

Source: http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0110/010810ar1.htm?oref=todaysnews

Thanks James, is very imformative....

Need to replace to the last post ;)
 
1/2 the employees here at my agency are retarded and don't want any standards for performance. I was hired as a GS-7 step 10, promoted to a GS-9 step 5 six months later and to a 12 two years after that. I got 2 step increases last year for performance and since I started here (2002) I have raked in about 6K in bonuses, I mean "monetary awards". People *itch all the time about me getting all these promotions and bonuses from a boss that hates my guts. But at least she is honest and rewards me for my high level of performance. I'm like stop *itching, you know she hates me yet I get all these bennies, obviously I am EARNING it!

Jason
 
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