Windows 10

[userque]

Cool, but do I trust them>>>>>NO I DON'T!

I'm with you on that one!

 

[JTH]

Been using Win10 on multiple PCs since the release.

Single-handily, it is the most privacy invasive OS I've come across. It takes about 10 minutes to disable all the default sharing features, which would be a PITA for the average user. I don't trust the security of this OS, I've gone as far as encrypting separate partitions to protect my data (as much as possible).

Setting this aside, there are other continuing issues I've had to deal with, like driver fails (sound & WIFI) and unexpected reboots.

When it runs great, it runs great, but some things just don't add up. I have a tablet Full-Win10 with half the specs and it runs twice as fast as my Laptop?

If I had Win7 I'd use it, but upgrading from Win8 to Win10 is the better option, JMHO.

 

[airlift]

Been using Win10 on multiple PCs since the release.

Single-handily, it is the most privacy invasive OS I've come across. It takes about 10 minutes to disable all the default sharing features, which would be a PITA for the average user. I don't trust the security of this OS, I've gone as far as encrypting separate partitions to protect my data (as much as possible).

Setting this aside, there are other continuing issues I've had to deal with, like driver fails (sound & WIFI) and unexpected reboots.

When it runs great, it runs great, but some things just don't add up. I have a tablet Full-Win10 with half the specs and it runs twice as fast as my Laptop?

If I had Win7 I'd use it, but upgrading from Win8 to Win10 is the better option, JMHO.

JTH, it is clear that your knowledge of the operating systems is a plus for the informative wealth that you have shared. My most urgent problem with Windows 10 is that I want to open the main indexes and ETFs in a specific orderly 1,2,3 sequence that allows me to refresh at will the price and movements on an intraday basis. Significantly, however, when I put the p/c on sleep, upon my return, after lunch for example, I reopen Microsoft edge expecting to continue the intraday observations, but the sequence of the charts is changed without my request, to a different sequence order that I placed the indexes or symbols. I tried talking to Microsoft tech support, but they were not exactly successful in helping me. Can you or anyone else help me with this matter? Maybe, it could be that the Tech support people do not understand that there are different time periods/candlesticks, etc. I don't understand.... Please Help! Thank you.

 

[JTH]

JTH, it is clear that your knowledge of the operating systems is a plus for the informative wealth that you have shared. My most urgent problem with Windows 10 is that I want to open the main indexes and ETFs in a specific orderly 1,2,3 sequence that allows me to refresh at will the price and movements on an intraday basis. Significantly, however, when I put the p/c on sleep, upon my return, after lunch for example, I reopen Microsoft edge expecting to continue the intraday observations, but the sequence of the charts is changed without my request, to a different sequence order that I placed the indexes or symbols. I tried talking to Microsoft tech support, but they were not exactly successful in helping me. Can you or anyone else help me with this matter? Maybe, it could be that the Tech support people do not understand that there are different time periods/candlesticks, etc. I don't understand.... Please Help! Thank you.

Hey Airlift

Edge is a really fast browser, but this is partially due to the lack of features.

I haven't been using Edge, I use Chrome due to the ability in integrate many features I use, like sync, HTTPS, VLC-Downloader, Java popup blocker, Google voice, ect.

If using edge is important to you, then you may want to disable the sleep feature, or play a continuous youtube video in the background, to keep your PC awake.

 

[PessOptimist]

I receive multiple pop ups daily about upgrading to 10 while it is still free or some such language. I am tempted but not ready to spend the day or days that getting everything I use to work again and actually get it to start at a desk top and stop asking for a password for MSN, Google, Twitter, Skype and other stuff will take.

Please keep posting your experiences and knowledge.

Thanks again

PO

 

[JTH]

True story

A friend of mine was at a HS football game and decided to use his Win10 PC, using his phone as a hotspot. He had noticed his connectivity seemed very slow, even though his phone had all bars.

Then he looked at his data usage on his phone, over the past hour, it had uploaded Gigs of patches to other computers on a completely different network. His PC was using his phone to patch the school district's network!

Lucky for him he has a decent data plan, but if it had happened to me, I would have been charged hundreds of dollars for going over my 1GB data plan ;swear

"If WUDO is enabled, Microsoft can point others to locally-cached copies of updates and apps on users’ Windows 10 devices that are connected to the Internet. When that happens, a user’s Windows 10 PC acts as a substitute server for others, and any customer whose device is tapped for WUDO delivery has given Microsoft access to their upload bandwidth."

Windows 10 uses your bandwidth to send patches, updates to others

 

[PessOptimist]

Thanks JTH. What does "WUDO" mean? Windows Update Delivery Optimization. Sounds like "theft of service" to me in the circumstance you state. So updates come from any connection? Yet another hazard of "cloud computing". Share the wealth maybe too but that needs a * in the subject line. I am wondering if your friend password protected their hotspot or just left it open for convenience.

Thank you again for all the info about Win10.

PO

 

[JTH]

Thanks JTH. What does "WUDO" mean? Windows Update Delivery Optimization. Sounds like "theft of service" to me in the circumstance you state. So updates come from any connection? Yet another hazard of "cloud computing". Share the wealth maybe too but that needs a * in the subject line. I am wondering if your friend password protected their hotspot or just left it open for convenience.

Thank you again for all the info about Win10.

PO

That's the rub, this feature is enabled by default and it does not need a WIFI password to share patches with other networks. Somewhere in the background, there's some sort of network sharing going on, it's horrendous, it makes me sick just thinking about the potential exportation.

 

[PessOptimist]

Thanks JTH. Arrrrrgggggghhhhh. Isn't it great being an old fart who thinks beyond how great this all is and who might have to pay for it?

old fart

PO

 

[burrocrat]

That's the rub, this feature is enabled by default and it does not need a WIFI password to share patches with other networks. Somewhere in the background, there's some sort of network sharing going on, it's horrendous, it makes me sick just thinking about the potential exportation.

that is why i no longer keep nude photos on my phone. i keep them in my mind instead, and if they want to cloudshare that they are in for way more than they bargained for.

 

[JTH]

Been using Win10 on multiple PCs since the release.

Single-handily, it is the most privacy invasive OS I've come across. It takes about 10 minutes to disable all the default sharing features, which would be a PITA for the average user. I don't trust the security of this OS, I've gone as far as encrypting separate partitions to protect my data (as much as possible).

Setting this aside, there are other continuing issues I've had to deal with, like driver fails (sound & WIFI) and unexpected reboots.

When it runs great, it runs great, but some things just don't add up. I have a tablet Full-Win10 with half the specs and it runs twice as fast as my Laptop?

If I had Win7 I'd use it, but upgrading from Win8 to Win10 is the better option, JMHO.

Fkin MS10 is the Facebook of society (I shake my fist at you in disgust)

Aside from the numerous sound, WIFI & reboot issues I've been "tolerating" my UAC got corrupted after a VPN install (meaning my standard user account was unable to process "run as administrator" applications)

After exhaustive research and troubleshooting, the shortest route to a fix was a complete rebuild + reinstalling all the previous applications.

8+ hours of my life, wasted...

 

[nnuut]

I will definitely WAIT to Upgrade to Win 10, like 2 years!:yuck:

 

[JTH]

Fkin MS10 is the Facebook of society (I shake my fist at you in disgust)

Aside from the numerous sound, WIFI & reboot issues I've been "tolerating" my UAC got corrupted after a VPN install (meaning my standard user account was unable to process "run as administrator" applications)

After exhaustive research and troubleshooting, the shortest route to a fix was a complete rebuild + reinstalling all the previous applications.

8+ hours of my life, wasted...

I will definitely WAIT to Upgrade to Win 10, like 2 years!:yuck:

UPDATE: Thus far, the rebuild has gone better than expected.

On the originally build, I had to rollback the WIFI driver, because the current one offered by HP, was not able to split-allocate my bandwidth (meaning if I was streaming something like Netflix, the web surfing was brutally slow)

It seems they finally resolved this issue, I now have the most current WIFI driver and it is working properly.

I lost my backups a few months back, and was unable to revover the MS Office 2010 HUP, so I had to upgrade to MS Office 2016 HUP, it is working very well and the outlook was able to import my GMail account.

The VPN which broke the original build, is now working very well, (there are DNS leaks with Win10, but they appear to be resolved by disabling IPV6).

 

[k0nkuzh0n]

and was unable to revover the MS Office 2010 HUP, so I had to upgrade to MS Office 2016 HUP

If you still have the CD key, you can install a trial version and insert your CD key. I mentioned this early in this thread as I had to do it myself. Worked like a champ. Probably too late for you now, but if you have a 2nd computer or something, could always use it for that.

 

[JTH]

If you still have the CD key, you can install a trial version and insert your CD key. I mentioned this early in this thread as I had to do it myself. Worked like a champ. Probably too late for you now, but if you have a 2nd computer or something, could always use it for that.

Thanks, I did something similar for my dad once. Nope, the MS Office Link was no longer supported. I could have pulled the key out using a program (I forget the name) but in my haste didn't think of that.

 

[maui21ice]

I have it upgraded on 2 of my laptops (well, my wife's and then my wife's second one haha). We haven't noticed anything this big or even buggy really at all. It was a bit to get used to at first, but otherwise the glitches were un-noticed if there as any, and it's been smooth sailing for us. Now if only work computers would upgrade to it... :/

 

[PessOptimist]

I have it upgraded on 2 of my laptops (well, my wife's and then my wife's second one haha). We haven't noticed anything this big or even buggy really at all. It was a bit to get used to at first, but otherwise the glitches were un-noticed if there as any, and it's been smooth sailing for us. Now if only work computers would upgrade to it... :/

Arrrgh, arrrgh. Arrgh. They never even made legacy stuff work with XP before they upgraded to 7. It’s great if you use “standard” application to do “standard” things. Does anyone in any IT in any agency EVER think that there are others using computer applications than those sitting in offices at the HQ?
I should take to heart what I was told in a briefing earlier this year by a HQ type. “We are a government agency first, our purpose for existing and supporting that are secondary”.
Yeah, sure. Win10. Nothing works with 7 so why not? Who cares if we can do the job the agency was created to do?
PO

 

[maui21ice]

Arrrgh, arrrgh. Arrgh. They never even made legacy stuff work with XP before they upgraded to 7. It’s great if you use “standard” application to do “standard” things. Does anyone in any IT in any agency EVER think that there are others using computer applications than those sitting in offices at the HQ?
I should take to heart what I was told in a briefing earlier this year by a HQ type. “We are a government agency first, our purpose for existing and supporting that are secondary”.
Yeah, sure. Win10. Nothing works with 7 so why not? Who cares if we can do the job the agency was created to do?
PO

I'm going to be brutally honest with you PO, I can't tell if in your post you hate Windows 10, or love it... :laugh:

 

[JTH]

I have it upgraded on 2 of my laptops (well, my wife's and then my wife's second one haha). We haven't noticed anything this big or even buggy really at all. It was a bit to get used to at first, but otherwise the glitches were un-noticed if there as any, and it's been smooth sailing for us. Now if only work computers would upgrade to it... :/

Of the 8 PCs I've upgraded to windows 10, mine is the only one having problems, but I'm also the only one who does any "real" work on my PC

Since our last conversation, I've had to rebuild the PC again twice, after duplicating the original errors. The key error is "Extended attributes are inconsistent" with past windows versions, this is commonly tied to the UAC's sound, but I don't think this is the case in this situation.

One possibility, is the disk cleanup utility (and CCleaner) is stripping out the extended attributes across my file system, thus disconnecting my standard user account from being able to use the "run as administrator" feature. If so, this is not user error, this is a substantial flaw in the system.

The other possibility, when installing programs under the admin account, it is not connecting administrative type programs to the standard user account.

Normally I would troubleshoot extensively until I was 100% certain what is causing it, but I'm moving next week, and I've already lost 3 days messing with it, so for now it's up and running and working well.



On this latest install, I've installed all programs under the standard user login, using admin credentials.

 

[nnuut]

BUGS! I'm waiting for them to get the BUGS out! Is this thing in Beta or something?