Will the S Fund Rebound?

[ctkling192]

I've been a fed employee for about 8 years now and only changed my allocations rarely. I have been following this board since the end of Jully and have found a wealth of information. Just wanted to say thanks guys.

 

[Ed_the_Fed]

I have been sitting back watching the action lately. I remain 60 S 40C. Will probably move to 100S COB Friday. I think next week might be a good one.

 

[Wolverine]

I was wondering that myself, looking at the Nasdaq and then the Yahoo chart here. I couldn't believe the difference between the two.

 

[Frixxxx]

I think the S closed in the green.. +.25%...am I wrong?

yes, 0.25%

 

[Robo5555]

I went back to the I fund. I know this fund looks good due to being behind but not to sure about a big pop from now to years end. Then again in this market we are not even sure of today...

 

[ContrarianJeff]

It looks like small-caps are outperforming large-caps big time today. Besides oversold rebounds, this is the first I've seen that in a long time. Maybe we're seeing the beginnings of a break out for the S-Fund.

 

[hessian]

It looks like small-caps are outperforming large-caps big time today. Besides oversold rebounds, this is the first I've seen that in a long time. Maybe we're seeing the beginnings of a break out for the S-Fund.

Hey Contrary,
I wanted to say I've been wondering the same thing. In addition to seeing moves you mention, today of all the stock funds, S was the ONLY one to close higher! Stiil maybe a little early to say for sure, but personally I am going to start giving it my biggest play!!

 

[nnuut]

Hey Contrary,
I wanted to say I've been wondering the same thing. In addition to seeing moves you mention, today of all the stock funds, S was the ONLY one to close higher! Stiil maybe a little early to say for sure, but personally I am going to start giving it my biggest play!!

The rotation between higher gains between the "C" and the "S" funds changes depending on the state of the Market. You have to Analise the Market on a daily basis to predict which fund is HOT and which fund is NOT!

 

[chezhoy]

I wish they would create one for the NASDAQ. I know some of the NASDAQ stocks like Apple are in the S&P 500. Am I missing something?

 

[hessian]

Hi Paladin,
Hope my response today in my new AcctTalk was adequate. It was just that a bunch of folks all hit asking questions at once...

To your qustion, I found out (the hard way) that different sources have different lookup symbols for the same Funds/Indexes (or often similar, but incorrect!!). You will find the correct symbol on SharpCharts for S is $EMW. On Yahoo, I believe DWCP (but don't quote me, because I've learned to pick one source and stick with it). Its likely yet a symbol with other sources like Google (no idea why).

To illustrate, 350 just informed me that on SharpCharts, I should have used $NDX for the Nasdaq 100 Index (not $COMPQ -"NASDAQ Composite" was the name given there). Well, at least I continue to learn! -I'll try to be more careful in future.

To see how confusing it can be, go to this SharpCharts link... http://stockcharts.com/symsearch?nasdaq at the top use its search - notice that I got 79 hits for NASDAQ!!! [Which would you have selected? >try the search >at the "Style" dropdown >select "Lookup Symbol", then at >"Symbol" choose something to enter (if you're unsure just enter NASDAQ, or any of your choice). Now honestly, how is anyone to know which one without help?!
Hope this helps!
VR

 

[Birchtree]

The year 2007 will be the first time since 1998 that small-cap stocks have posted lower returns than large stocks. That would end an 8 year streak of outperformance for small stocks, second only to a 10-year run from 1974 through 1983. These market cycles are not short lived.

 

[Show-me]

VXF is a ETF that tracks it also.

 

[alevin]

I tried to use both EMW and VXF in Big Charts. VCF will work, EMW does not. I finally have something useable besides DWCFP to keep backtrack on S longer than 5 days! thank you Show-me.

VXF is a ETF that tracks it also.

 

[justbizness45]

I posted this on my thread but wanted to ask the question here also"

I am thinking about changing my stock exposure from 50/50 C/S to 100C based on the credit lockup. Small businesses are probably having a hard time getting credit (I saw this on someone elses thread but I don't remember who to give credit to). I would appreciate any thoughts from other members on the validity of a strong "S" bounce or not.

 

[Fivetears]

S fund has lost $4.83 in share value over the last 12 days. :blink:

 

[Guest2]

I tried to use both EMW and VXF in Big Charts. VCF will work, EMW does not. I finally have something useable besides DWCFP to keep backtrack on S longer than 5 days! thank you Show-me.

Put a $ sign in front of EMW ,,,,,,, or $EMW
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$emw
http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$EMW&p=D&b=5&g=0&i=t86131371262&r=3043

 

[InvertedNyBot]

See
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^DWCPF&t=5d

this 5-day chart should include Fri Oct 3. (day of interest).

Notice the __400 Million__ share spike in the morning before the market sold the news about the Bailout passing Congress.

Is this a multi-billion dollar short position?

Seeing this makes me want to stay clear of the S fund for several quarters at least -- I don't care how low it goes, even less than $10.

--
Mark

 

[Braveheart]

I posted this on my thread but wanted to ask the question here also"

I am thinking about changing my stock exposure from 50/50 C/S to 100C based on the credit lockup. Small businesses are probably having a hard time getting credit (I saw this on someone elses thread but I don't remember who to give credit to). I would appreciate any thoughts from other members on the validity of a strong "S" bounce or not.

Only the Strong Shall Survive - C Fund vs. S Fund = C Fund at least for the next month IMO. The small caps need money which they don't have to stay in business. The small caps were loaded in hedge funds who are dumping right now since their market has been called by the Banks and the panic sells.

When you see BAC drop and Goldman drop huge the past 2 days that would make me worry about all stocks esp. the S Fund. If you notice the past 2 days the S Fund has dropped much more than the C Fund.

I also heard a very large Hedge Fund dumped at a loss yesterday 4 million shares of stocks.

 

[mick504]

I don't have any fancy charts, analyzeeeeze info to say but I figure that since the financials were and are being beat up or down if you prefer the most, and they are in the C mostly; I would say (they)....the C will come back the fastest! However the difference between the S and C in the climb may not differ substantially over time. When I decide to move from the G...which may be soon....I'm puting in all in the C. Good Luck in your choice.

 

[Birchtree]

In 2003 the S fund had a 43% gain off that triple bottom - I don't believe they (small caps) will outperform this time around. C fund has been my choice since 2004.