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bmneveu said:
Couple things. The title says "CLOVID-19", and I don't see any evidence to back their main clam in the entire document, other than that they claim there is a virology research laboratory in Wuhan that is certified up to the level of COVID-19. There is no evidence to show that that lab is the only one in the country certified to that level, and there is no evidence that it was purposely leaked into society. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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No arguments from me; everything (positive and negative) about all of this should be researched thoroughly. Many articles are being written denying any connection to any lab at the same time others point to biological warfare.
Ignoring all the current headlines..., COVID-19 is simply a corona virus. This one is believed to have existed in bats for many decades but got the COVID-19 name (obviously) when it jumped into humans in China this past December. Many research locations around the world dig into corona virus's. The University of SC (I think it was them anyway; can't find the article I read last week) was doing research into cancer/antibody therapy involving several corona virus's in the mid '90s and a few strains were identified in bat populations that had the proper "binders" to be used in humans.
 
So why the Hype about corona when the Flu has been worst?

The flu has already killed 10,000 across US as world frets over coronavirus

The flu remains a higher threat to U.S. public health than the new coronavirus.
This flu season alone has sickened at least 19 million across the U.S. and led to 10,000 deaths and 180,000 hospitalizations.

At least 19 million people have come down with the flu in the U.S. with 180,000 ending up in the hospital, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The flu season, which started in September and can run until May, is currently at its peak and poses a greater health threat to the U.S. than the new coronavirus, physicians say.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/the...cross-us-as-world-frets-over-coronavirus.html
 
Latest update

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) released its U.S. Influenza Surveillance Report for the week ending March 14, with the total deaths this season at 23,000 and the highest number of children and people age 18-49 requiring hospitalization since the 2009 H1N1 pandemic.
“Hospitalization rates for school-aged children (5-17 years) are higher than any recent regular season but remain lower than rates experienced by this age group during the pandemic,” the report said.
Five influenza-associated pediatric deaths occurring during the 2019-20 season were reported this week. The total pediatric deaths for the season is 149.
CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 38 million flu illnesses, 390,000 hospitalizations and 23,000 deaths from flu.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/22/influenza-update-23000-u-s-deaths-more-children-18-49-year-olds-hospitalized-than-during-2009-h1n1-pandemic/

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Valkyrie said:
So why the Hype about corona when the Flu has been worst?

The flu has already killed 10,000 across US as world frets over coronavirus

The flu remains a higher threat to U.S. public health than the new coronavirus.
This flu season alone has sickened at least 19 million across the U.S. and led to 10,000 deaths and 180,000 hospitalizations.

At least 19 million people have come down with the flu in the U.S. with 180,000 ending up in the hospital, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The flu season, which started in September and can run until May, is currently at its peak and poses a greater health threat to the U.S. than the new coronavirus, physicians say.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/03/the...cross-us-as-world-frets-over-coronavirus.html
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Because COVID-19 just recently reached our country, and it just now started spreading like wildfire within the last 2 weeks. The flu season has been going since October ish, so about 180 days. 10,000 deaths over 180 days is 55 a day. We just had 112 COVID-19 deaths yesterday, and that number will keep climbing for the foreseeable future. You can't compare total numbers of a virus in its infancy to something that has been at maturity for 6 months.
 
Also, how many of the flu diagnosis were really Covid-19? It would be great if everyone quit trying to dismiss the seriousness of our situation. The more who deny the crisis, the longer it will last.

bmneveu said:
Because COVID-19 just recently reached our country, and it just now started spreading like wildfire within the last 2 weeks. The flu season has been going since October ish, so about 180 days. 10,000 deaths over 180 days is 55 a day. We just had 112 COVID-19 deaths yesterday, and that number will keep climbing for the foreseeable future. You can't compare total numbers of a virus in its infancy to something that has been at maturity for 6 months.
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weatherweenie said:
It would be great if everyone quit trying to dismiss the seriousness of our situation. The more who deny the crisis, the longer it will last.
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They are in the Denial stage of the market coaster. :D

(BTW, I deleted my previous post because that graphic was too darn large. Don't know why I could not just remove the graphic, though.)
 
its a cover up of the corrupt medical system run by corporations. corona can cause pneumonia which requires hospital stay and a respirator. they don't have enough beds and respirators. Decades ago when a new hospital was built they were required to have over capacity. that went away. nice plan to use for lockdowns. I've been inside new virtura hospitals, interiors like 500k-million plus homes, all from tax payer money and insurance rates. this is the result of corp greed and govt waving their requirements for the corps.
 
The seasonal flu still has worse fatality numbers, as does heart disease... There is no reason to crash the economy over this.
 
Governments across America already used the pandemic, and the media-stoked panic around the pandemic particularly, to limit, restrict or remove First Amendment freedoms of speech and free association, with officials complaining about the potential restraints the freedom of religion imposed upon them. Others denied or declared the right to deny Second Amendment rights of gun purchase for personal safety (at a time governments are issuing no-arrest and no-detention orders for a wide range of crimes in their community while publicly freeing inmates from jails and prisons). They want to coordinate with tech companies to surveil and spy on your everyday movements and activities, in violation of the Fourth Amendment and potentially waive, unilaterally, your medical right to privacy in multiple contexts. Stay-at-home orders deprive you of your profession, occupation, business and property, without any due process of law at all beyond an executive fiat in violation of the Fifth Amendment right to due process. Governments request the authority to involuntarily imprison any American on mere fear of infection without any probable cause of crime or clear and present danger of harm by that person’s volitional conduct, deny access to personal counsel in an unsupervised, un-surveilled manner in violation of the Sixth Amendment, and act as judge, jury and executioner in violation of the Seventh Amendment right to a trial by jury, as jury trials themselves get suspended around the country in the nation’s quieted courts and fear-muted public.
The real pandemic threat is here. It’s the panic that will quarantine our Constitution.

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/483758-coronavirus-constitutional-rights-government/
 
I would rather NOT let this highly contagious virus free reign. The measures being taken are not a nefarious plot for world domination. They are an attempt to keep the public safe. Occam's razor. [FONT=&quot]the simplest solution is most likely the right one[/FONT]


Whipsaw said:
The seasonal flu still has worse fatality numbers, as does heart disease... There is no reason to crash the economy over this.
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don't panic and be stupid

https://heavy.com/news/2020/03/chloroquine-phosphate-death-dangerous-fish-cleaner/

Chloroquine Phosphate: Arizona Man Dies After Self-Medicating With Fish Tank Cleaner
used it as a preventative.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/...nk-product-chemical-tested-COVID-19-drug.html

Magna CP-Medic
Sellers have made clear in their listings that the substance isn’t fit for human consumption.

https://www.themercury.com.au/coron...k/news-story/d0f4eccc6bec28d52c8c75155f24b439
 
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