TSP Poker Club

[FogSailing]

I know. I know. You're such a toughie...:smile:

FS

 

[userque]

You realize that is 1 of the 2 posts I quoted, yet you claimed wasn't part of the conversation, right? :blink:

I claimed you didn't post a conversation. A conversation would have included my post. So when you posted only your posts (and none of mine) AND claimed you didn't know what I was talking about; I knew you didn't post the conversation.

Why is that an issue, rather than the content of what I just posted?? LOL You guys are amazing!

 

[userque]

I don't think anyone (except maybe you) knew it was going to be 10 games longer. Originally you said it was just going to be 1 month longer, which would be about only 4 extra games.

I'm fine with 8, I'm fine with 10, I'm fine with 23. Lets not over analyze and make this a bigger deal than it really is. :laugh:

With how the spreadsheet was made, you can find how you did with any combination of the top-x games, for any given date range (independent of seasons).

Again, none of us knew that PS hardcoded the seasons. Let me know if you need me to post the conversation.

You guys are incredible!

 

[jpcavin]

So an NPD and an ODD walk into a bar......:laugh:

 

[alevin]

OK you guys, I missed this whole conversation post-last nights game til now. sometimes I actually do shut off my machine fairly early in the evening. blue light screen at night-interferes with sleep patterns, I need much more sleep than I've been getting, working to change habits that are detrimental to sleep objectives. changing habits is hard but not impossible, I just have to commit to being consistent with the behavioral change and establish new pattern.

So anyway, my 2 cents-no change to current season, please, it's been through an evolution and I'm happy with what we have for this season. As far as missing games, I've registered once where I ended up missing the game entirely due to out-of-town work day ending up being longer than expected. don't recall if its happened 2 times now, or just the recent game.

I lost chips that time for sure due to being registered. didn't know that being registered and not showing up would end up with me being counted as actually playing for the stats, until after the fact. I expected no credit since I didn't play, but it did cost me something to make the effort and somebody won my chips which increased their standings. I guess I'm ok with being counted as having played, for that reason. even if I ended up in last place because of it-for that particular game.

as far as going forward, best 10 of 13 would be fine with me, as long as those registered and who end up not playing despite best intentions, still get credit for having played that game, even if they get no points for it. am I making any sense or have I confused things even further? :nuts:

 

[userque]

Current voting status:

Raising Games per Next Season onward:
Current: 8

PRO: Eight is not representative of the player's poker skill. Please post to change/add to this argument.

CON: Increasing the number will be detrimental to the club in the long run. If a member can only make one day of the two, they are only able to play 6 or 7 games. They will not be able to compete with those whose stats include 10 games. Our purpose is not to compete with the WSOP. We must first be about fun. If everyone can play 6 games, why not only judge 6 games. It's not really that serious. Please post to change/add to this argument.

userque: 6
att: what ever the majority decides
FS: what ever the majority decides
JPC: 10
burro: 10
winter: 10

Make Any Change in the Games per Season for the current, almost over season:
Current: No

PRO: 8 in 23 is not representative of the player's poker skill. Please post to change/add to this argument.

CON: The matter was on the table to be changed earlier, but wasn't. Changing the rules of a contest near the end of the contest is not cool and will not inspire trust in the club going forward. It's simply bad business. Please post to change/add to this argument.

Q: No
winter: No


Give Points for Last Place:
CURRENT: No

PRO:
Last place should make more points than someone that doesn't even play. Please post to change/add to this argument.

CON:
Last place should not make more points than someone that doesn't even play. No 'participation points'. Everyone is GUARANTEED at least last place, if you enter. Plus, changing this would change the values for all other places as well. Please post to change/add to this argument.

Q: Yes
k0n: No

 

[k0nkuzh0n]

LOL...that's not the conversation we had regarding extending the '8.' BTW...it's not important to me that you dig it up. I could do that myself if I really wanted to. But, I'll speak on it if you dig up the 'wrong' conversation.

Obviously I was speaking to this piece... :blink:

I didn't care what you'd said; I was recalling what I had said, to remember why. Maybe you completely missed the purpose there...

 

[jpcavin]

Current voting status:

Raising Games per Next Season onward:
Current: 8

PRO: Eight is not representative of the player's poker skill. Please post to change/add to this argument.

CON: Increasing the number will be detrimental to the club in the long run. If a member can only make one day of the two, they are only able to play 6 or 7 games. They will not be able to compete with those whose stats include 10 games. Our purpose is not to compete with the WSOP. We must first be about fun. If everyone can play 6 games, why not only judge 6 games. It's not really that serious. Please post to change/add to this argument.

userque: 6
att: what ever the majority decides
FS: what ever the majority decides
JPC: what ever the majority decides
burro: 10
winter: 10

Make Any Change in the Games per Season for the current, almost over season:
Current: No

PRO: 8 in 23 is not representative of the player's poker skill. Please post to change/add to this argument.

CON: The matter was on the table to be changed earlier, but wasn't. Changing the rules of a contest near the end of the contest is not cool and will not inspire trust in the club going forward. It's simply bad business. Please post to change/add to this argument.

Q: No
winter: No


Give Points for Last Place:
CURRENT: No

PRO:
Last place should make more points than someone that doesn't even play. Please post to change/add to this argument.

CON:
Not clear. Please post a CON argument. Please post to change/add to this argument.

Q: Yes
k0n: No

My vote was for 10 which you acknowledged in previous posts. Please change my vote to 10!

If we are all throwing or two cents in, I like 10 of 13.

May those voting in this matter so indicate by announcing the number of games that should be included next season and beyond.

We have 10 of 13 by JPC
We have 75% by burro; however, I would ask that a clear number be submitted rather than a percentage.

Votes/Suggestions can be withdrawn/changed as the debate is ongoing.

Obviously, without a consensus, and with split votes, no changes should take place.

 

[alevin]

Cuda insinuated I was picking on, or bullying winter. I like winter.

When I play aggressively towards anyone, it is a show of respect towards them. A show of fear, healthy fear. There's only one person at our tables that I would give a break to. No comment as to who that is. Hint: It aint burro nor his sidekick. Hehe.

Winter was raising me like a pro early in the game; raising my blind--and all other manner of uncivilized poker. I don't know what books she'd been reading, but she had to go. The sooner the better. You run by a dog, it'll give chase. You keep raising me, expect a reaction.

I didn't know if winter had formed a study group with FS or what...it didn't matter. She earned a bead. I kept a bead on her. When I had a clear shot, I took it. That's it and that's all.

That's poker my dear friend.

no worries here, Q. I'm astonished that I suddenly became the laser focus target of your chip play, and flattered too, lol. FS and I have not teamed up, what studying I've done has been pretty basic, on preflop play, table position and some on bankroll management-on websites, and been playing plenty of micro-sized games on PS, learning by doing. learned enough, earned enough now to move up into the low-stakes games routinely the past week or so, and still keep enough to stay registered for our tourneys.

some of what I've learned from those just-the-basics-ma'am sites is working for me, other basics have not worked out so well when I've put them into practice on the cash games, so I am far more judicious about when I follow those rules of thumb. I guess my game is finally evolving into something I can recognize as my preferred strategy that works for me at certain tables at least, based on other players behaviors that I recognize fairly quickly from early interactions each game.

that said, I also recognize that sometimes I actually need to shift how I'm playing, but that recognition doesn't always come as quickly as it needs to. so on the ring games, I'll often lose the first game, reload with chips to stick with that table, and recalibrate how I play with those same players the second game-which usually goes much better. It helps when the games are back to back same day of course. so tournament play is still much different for me than the cash games. no second chances in the tournaments. :smile:

 

[k0nkuzh0n]

CON:
Last place should not make more points than someone that doesn't even play. No 'participation points'. Everyone is GUARANTEED at least last place, if you enter. Plus, changing this would change the values for all other places as well.

Give Points for Last Place:
CURRENT: No

PRO:
Last place should make more points than someone that doesn't even play. Please post to change/add to this argument.

CON:
Not clear. Please post a CON argument. Please post to change/add to this argument.

Q: Yes
k0n: No

 

[userque]

My vote was for 10 which you acknowledged in previous posts. Please change my vote to 10!

Please re-read my subsequent post asking you to clarify your position.

 

[jpcavin]

CON:
Last place should not make more points than someone that doesn't even play. No 'participation points'. Everyone is GUARANTEED at least last place, if you enter. Plus, changing this would change the values for all other places as well.

I urge EVERY club ,member to register.

 

[jpcavin]

Please re-read my subsequent post asking you to clarify your position.

I believe you got that one wrong too. That was in reply to burrocrat's 75%

 

[userque]

Please re-read my subsequent post asking you to clarify your position.

Nevermind. Once again, I've done the heavy lifting. LOL. What are you folks smoking?! Where's my puff? You folks are gubmint employees?

I think all games should count so 3 freebies is more than enough. No advantage here since counting all games would actually lower my standing. I personally don't try as hard when I know I can throw a few games.

I'm ok with whatever the majority decides. Just stating my preference.

Just to be clear. Are you voting for 10? Or are you not voting? Currently, as you've just stated you are only stating a preference (and that you are ok with whatever the majority decides), you are deemed not voting on the issue.

 

[k0nkuzh0n]

I believe you got that one wrong too. That was in reply to burrocrat's 75%

:nono:

 

[userque]

I believe you got that one wrong too. That was in reply to burrocrat's 75%

Ok. Lol

 

[k0nkuzh0n]

Alevin, what phase/step are we at now? Back at 1 ?!?:laugh:

So an NPD and an ODD walk into a bar......:laugh:

 

[jpcavin]

Nevermind. Once again, I've done the heavy lifting. LOL. What are you folks smoking?! Where's my puff? You folks are gubmint employees?

I already voted last night. I was not changing my previous vote. That is why I said 3 freebies is enough. If I wanted to change my vote I would say "I am changing my vote."

 

[FogSailing]

How bout them O's?.....:laugh:

FS

 

[userque]

I already voted last night. I was not changing my previous vote. That is why I said 3 freebies is enough. If I wanted to change my vote I would say "I am changing my vote."

You may say that. Others may not. That's why I asked for clarity. All you had to do is clarify. No need to get excited.