TSP Poker Club

i notice that the new tsptalk poker club is missing a couple members that have played in the old club: firedog and berrycuda. has anyone sent them new 'join club' info so they can continue playing if they wish? and there are several that joined the old club but have not yet played a game so i wonder if they are still interested? also it appears there may be some more new members that might join we haven't seen before so that is good. the more the merrier.

Yep, PM'd cuda and firedog at the same time I did the others.
 
... I think silver should wait for new season, ...

I'm replying to this now because I'm not sure I indicated that the Silver Prize will be offered for each 3 month Season![SUP]1 [/SUP]So I'll also use this reply to also provide a disclaimer, as I understand there to be one. :)

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[SUP]1[/SUP] Subject, at any time, to supplies, availability, and Tom's independent willingness, and/or ability to supply such prizes.
 
I've been researching this. Poker Stars uses a different calculation for home games:
https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/home-games/faq/

Also, in light of the fact that we are now playing for the Silver. I believe it is fair to begin anew, rather than trying to import the old stats. We weren't playing for Silver before.

However, if the body insists on continuing the old tourney, rather than start fresh, then we should continue with the original prize: bragging rights. :) And save the silver for the next tourney, three months away....just my opinions.

:)

If people want to start playing for silver now, then we should start afresh. If people want to finish out a 3-month season tourney already started, and keep existing stats for bragging rights, then I think we should hold off on silver until the next 3-month term and finish this one out with existing stats, start run for silver next round with fresh stats. My personal opinion

I can go either way the group wants to go, as I have no expectation of bragging rights or silver either way. happy to leave final answer to those already in the market for bragging rights and/or silver.
 
Free TSPtalk Poker Club Tourney Tonight, 8pm ET.

PM me or another willing member for the "invite" information.
(Or ask generally in this thread, and someone will PM it to you.)

:)
 
If people want to start playing for silver now, then we should start afresh. If people want to finish out a 3-month season tourney already started, and keep existing stats for bragging rights, then I think we should hold off on silver until the next 3-month term and finish this one out with existing stats, start run for silver next round with fresh stats. My personal opinion

I can go either way the group wants to go, as I have no expectation of bragging rights or silver either way. happy to leave final answer to those already in the market for bragging rights and/or silver.

I can wait as well.

We can see how the PS stats hold up (while continuing with k0n's stats) and get things polished and clarified during this first season. We still have questions that I'll be presenting to the membership to vote upon in individual voting threads. :)
 
Ya I had already read this, back when we were trying to figure out the points for 8-player game that didn't get recorded. They don't provide the actual formula. All you can do is go to OTHER home club's and look at their results. Thats what Gata found out. I used that to fill up a table up to 15 players. And that was the table I posted for comparison, where the 1st place points didn't make any sense.
I've been researching this. Poker Stars uses a different calculation for home games:
https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/home-games/faq/

"How are points awarded for Club Standings?

The total points awarded for a qualified tournament are exactly equal to the number of players in the tournament. So a 20-player tournament awards 20 points and a 50-player tournament awards 50 points. The points awarded are spread across the top third of participants, with a higher proportion going to higher placements in the finish order. (Rounding may occur to ensure that total points equal total players and top third of players is a whole number.)"

Additional sites:
Poker Leagues & Point Systems - Home Poker Tourney
Poker League Rules & Points Systems*-*Home Poker Tourney Forums
Poker League Points Systems - Home Poker Tourney
Poker League Points Systems - Home Poker Tourney

Poker stars does the top third, which is reasonable. We have a unique situation here where we have few players, along with a very wide variance in skill level. Skewing the point system to make the curve 'look' more normal may not be the proper solution...there may not even be a problem.

Imo, I think would should see whether the stats are working after today, then go from there.
 
I've been researching this. Poker Stars uses a different calculation for home games:
https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/home-games/faq/

Also, in light of the fact that we are now playing for the Silver. I believe it is fair to begin anew, rather than trying to import the old stats. We weren't playing for Silver before.
So I'm against 'Starting over', but I completely agree, for whatever counts towards prizes, should definitely start new.

I never intended to start the stats over for every season, especially every 3 months. I intended to keep it as an entire history. If I have time, I'll see what I can do in duplicating the output to where it only includes a specific range of games, so we can see both. No promises tho!
 
So I'm against 'Starting over', but I completely agree, for whatever counts towards prizes, should definitely start new.

I never intended to start the stats over for every season, especially every 3 months. I intended to keep it as an entire history. If I have time, I'll see what I can do in duplicating the output to where it only includes a specific range of games, so we can see both. No promises tho!

:) Thanks either way.
 
... I never intended to start the stats over for every season, especially every 3 months. I intended to keep it as an entire history....

You kinda have to start over to give new members a fair chance, and old members a do-over. It would be no fun to be down one million points because you were learning when the one and only season started 10 years ago. :)

All major sports have ... seasons.




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we can cross that bridge when it happens. Its a good thing we've got a cat in the club because I think we are already on our 2nd or 3rd life :laugh:
 
we can cross that bridge when it happens. Its a good thing we've got a cat in the club because I think we are already on our 2nd or 3rd life :laugh:

Well, if there are to be prizes, it would be fair to participants to know when the contest ends. The alternative is for there to be some unknown arbitrary ending point...determined by I-can't-imagine. Do we end when I'm in the lead, or when cuda is in the lead? Vote? Who's going to vote to end when they're not in the lead?

Nevertheless, we can add this to the things we need to decide and vote on:

* Have set, predetermined seasons of a length that allows the frequent addition of new members and frequent winning of prizes or bragging rights, or;

* Have one, never ending season, that will end somehow when we cross that bridge. :) Where new members will have to wait for an undetermined amount to time to join and be on fair footing; Where no one knows if they'll be alive to collect the prize, even though they've been the point leader for five years straight, for example.

Full Disclosure: The above is biased as I support the first option. :)
 
As always, feel free to post opinions (pro/con) and supporting arguments. We may find that we have a consensus on many topics without having to take an official :) vote.
 
I'm definitely against knockouts counting as points. There is no value in knocking someone out beyond bragging points. The only knockout that matters is the last one.
 
I'm definitely against knockouts counting as points. There is no value in knocking someone out beyond bragging points. The only knockout that matters is the last one.

I can go either way. In the long run, it probably doesn't change much. My original thought was that it increased the buy-in amount, as it was only 530 or so before adding the KO. It increased it but still kept it under 1,000.

Again, we'll add it to the list of things to vote on.
 
Well, if there are to be prizes, it would be fair to participants to know when the contest ends. The alternative is for there to be some unknown arbitrary ending point...determined by I-can't-imagine. Do we end when I'm in the lead, or when cuda is in the lead? Vote? Who's going to vote to end when they're not in the lead?

Nevertheless, we can add this to the things we need to decide and vote on:

* Have set, predetermined seasons of a length that allows the frequent addition of new members and frequent winning of prizes or bragging rights, or;

* Have one, never ending season, that will end somehow when we cross that bridge. :) Where new members will have to wait for an undetermined amount to time to join and be on fair footing; Where no one knows if they'll be alive to collect the prize, even though they've been the point leader for five years straight, for example.

Full Disclosure: The above is biased as I support the first option. :)
Sure, of course. I'm not handling anything to do with prizes, so I'm not personally concerned with that. I wasn't speaking on season, or prizes. I was speaking purely of displaying of stats.

You know, sports have career stats too
 
Sure, of course. I'm not handling anything to do with prizes, so I'm not personally concerned with that. I wasn't speaking on season, or prizes. I was speaking purely of displaying of stats.

You know, sports have career stats too

Right, the keeping or not of career stats doesn't affect anything with regard to the contests. We have to keep seasonal stats to know who won the season. Your original point was you didn't plan on keeping seasonal stats or dividing it up. Thus, my posts.

So, I take it you agree that we need seasons, and as such, seasonal stats...so we don't (yet :) ) have to put this question to a vote?
 
I won't be playing tonight. Good luck to everyone.. Hopefully I'll be back next Sunday.
 
Right, the keeping or not of career stats doesn't affect anything with regard to the contests. We have to keep seasonal stats to know who won the season. Your original point was you didn't plan on keeping seasonal stats or dividing it up. Thus, my posts.

So, I take it you agree that we need seasons, and as such, seasonal stats...so we don't (yet :) ) have to put this question to a vote?
My original point was my original intention. I can't go back in time and change my thoughts :laugh:.

Yes, I had already agreed it made sense to have seasons for prizes. And I agree there should be a specific start time and length/end date. For prizes. I don't think stats should just be wiped clean every 3 months. Points that count towards a given prize, yes they should start at 0 for each season; I don't consider those two one in the same.

If you want to use the spreadsheet to determine the winner of the prize, currently its a matter of whether you take a snap shot at the beginning, and the end, and subtract the two, or whether you're able to select just a range. Currently obviously you get everything, non-selectable, as I never had intended to chop it up, so I didn't build it in. I think I can add the functionality in to make it more user-friendly, but that's TBD. That's all
 
My original point was my original intention. I can't go back in time and change my thoughts :laugh:.

Yes, I had already agreed it made sense to have seasons for prizes. And I agree there should be a specific start time and length/end date. For prizes. I don't think stats should just be wiped clean every 3 months. Points that count towards a given prize, yes they should start at 0 for each season; I don't consider those two one in the same.

If you want to use the spreadsheet to determine the winner of the prize, currently its a matter of whether you take a snap shot at the beginning, and the end, and subtract the two, or whether you're able to select just a range. Currently obviously you get everything, non-selectable, as I never had intended to chop it up, so I didn't build it in. I think I can add the functionality in to make it more user-friendly, but that's TBD. That's all

That'll work. Thanks :)
 
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