TiCKed Account Talk

Several reasons:
- I always hated the F fund. Since it's at a relative high, I'm jumping out.
- Moved some I into the S. S may have the edge in up-side potential.

9th move this year....Hope i'm not confusing the trackers. :)

Made sense to me when I wrote it. :blink:

Oh, well. Probably gave away a % or so, but time can make any buy-and-hold move look good if you wait long enough. :cheesy:

By the way...not that it matters....but for some reason the trackers have me listed as having 11 moves. Double checked, and it really is only 9. (No big deal, except if someone is still doing Move vs. Performance correlation).

And you can consider this my quarterly indication that I'm still alive. ;)
 
Made sense to me when I wrote it. :blink:

By the way...not that it matters....but for some reason the trackers have me listed as having 11 moves. Double checked, and it really is only 9. (No big deal, except if someone is still doing Move vs. Performance correlation).

Ticked,

Sorry about that! The way I count (to save time) approximates the number of moves. However, there doesn't seem to be much excuse for being off by almost 25% for someone with 9 moves! I'll fix it next week.

Incidentally, there seems to be very little, if any, correlation between number of moves and returns - particularly if you miscount them.:cheesy:
 
Final Year Assessment:

The results for the year are in, and with all of my screwing around...(9 moves, anyway)....and all I did was tie the L2040. What's the point? :)
 
Final Year Assessment:

The results for the year are in, and with all of my screwing around...(9 moves, anyway)....and all I did was tie the L2040. What's the point? :)

You're not throwing in the towel, are you? I know how you feel, I earned less than you but beat my goal for the year. I think most important though, we stayed actively involved with our assets and came out ahead!
 
You're not throwing in the towel, are you? I know how you feel, I earned less than you but beat my goal for the year. I think most important though, we stayed actively involved with our assets and came out ahead!

No....Not throwing in the towel. With my less than active trading for the year, I'd have to go and actually FIND the towel first. :)

Just thought it was funny to exactly match the L2040.

Since my "goal" is averaging a meager 7% per year, I'm really quite a happy guy. :D
 
This applies to a FV discussion in the "Playing the I-Fund" thread. Basic thesis is that the Vanguard Total International Index Fund (VGTSX) isn't as aggressive in applying FV as the I-Fund:

VGTSX is set to track an "index" described as "Total International Composite Index*", with the note that:

"*Consists of the MSCI Europe Index, the MSCI Pacific Index, and the MSCI Emerging Markets Index."

Presumably, the constituent indexes are used in proportion to the holdings of the 3 funds making up VGTSX.

That said, my plots of both the I-Fund and VGTSX performance for 2006 track each other very closely. Both finished around +26% for the year. Any day-to-day variation may be from the Emerging Markets portion of VGTSX, other differnces in holdings....or possibly differences in FV calculations. The plots show that when they diverge for a few days, they eventually merge again later. (i.e., there really isn't much difference between the two in actual returns). Assumption we can jump to is that they aren't much different, and FV influence probably aren't that different either.

As for FV, today a healthy +14 cent FV was applied to the I-fund, while if we assume the MSCI EAFE applied to both (which is a big assumption as noted), VGTSX had more like an FV of +4 cents.

Again, much of the difference in FV may be due to other rules and penalty fees that apply to VGTSX that prevent frequent trading, and probably reimburse the fund for any losses from trades that do occur.

Only interesting if you REALLY enjoy the concept of FV, or own both indexes. (Few of us qualify). :)
 
Ticked,

Thank you for the explanation. With the majority of the weighting going to Europe and Asia, I would not be surprise if the EAFE and the Vanguard international fund are nearly identical, maybe 90%.
 
Just made my first IFT for the year:
From: To:
G:20......0
F: 0.......0
C:40.....45
S:20.....25
I:20.....30

Still trying to keep diversified, but "take advantage" of upside potential.

Of course, the SMART people are the ones who were out about 3-4 days ago. I don't qualify....and since I barely have time to read TSPTalk anymore, I don't know who you are, but congrats!

I nearly dumped to G yesterday, but glad I didn't! Whipsaw all the way.

Planning to stay in this allocation for awhile....several weeks. I'm still just an optimist. :)
 
Allocation change for COB 4/17/07:
From: To:
G: 0.....10
F: 0......5
C: 45....40
S: 25....20
I: 30....25

I got stuck in the last dip...(as I ALWAYS do), so I went high risk afterwards as a makeup, which worked out quite nicely. But it's time to get back to something a little more "normal" by my standards. Figure we'll go sideways for awhile as we poke at record highs.

Wish I had more time to play on TSPTalk, but life is rather complex right now. Maybe in 6 months or so. Until then, keep fighting the good (profitable) fight!!

Oh.....And GO DUCKS!!! :D
 
Since I don't read my account thread much, I missed your congrats. Please ignore my nasty PM. :D

Good luck to the Wings making it the Western Conference Finals....Too bad you have to lose there. :)
 
Same post just added to my account tracker thread:

Allocations remain as previously reported. (Periodic post to prove I'm alive).



(But now that I have the tracker's attention: If it will help you in your difficult task as tracker, I will volunteer to be dropped from the ranks of the tracked.

Being tracked is useful to me...but probably not that useful to the other membership since I rarely make moves, and rarely post anymore.

Your call....If it's useful to have a "non-trader" in the mix for comparison's sake, I will continue to post my limited moves and allocations. If tracking me is a burden with little benefit, feel free to remove me.)


DUCKS! Stanley Cup Champions!!! (Sorry...Had to do it). :D
 
TiCKED,

Its no trouble, or effort, to track your TSP moves since you seldom make allocation changes. Its good to have members like you in the tracker. This provides balance and shows others that one does not have trade frequently to do well. I say you stay in the tracker. Be carful and know when to DUCK to avoid those big market corrections.

But now that I have the tracker's attention: If it will help you in your difficult task as tracker, I will volunteer to be dropped from the ranks of the tracked.

Being tracked is useful to me...but probably not that useful to the other membership since I rarely make moves, and rarely post anymore.

Your call....If it's useful to have a "non-trader" in the mix for comparison's sake, I will continue to post my limited moves and allocations. If tracking me is a burden with little benefit, feel free to remove me.)


DUCKS! Stanley Cup Champions!!! (Sorry...Had to do it). :D
 
TiCKED,

Its no trouble, or effort, to track your TSP moves since you seldom make allocation changes. Its good to have members like you in the tracker. This provides balance and shows others that one does not have trade frequently to do well. I say you stay in the tracker. Be carful and know when to DUCK to avoid those big market corrections.

I copy. I'll continue to stay involved!

As for "ducking", that's my fatal flaw. I'm NEVER out when I should be. :)
 
Just replied to my quarterly warning to post to my account tracking thread, or risk being dropped from the tracker. :o

(Allocations the same since April....I think).

Seriously considered just letting my account lapse from the tracker. I'm obviously not DOING anything except the dreaded "Buy and Hold". And since the new tracker motto is "Friends don't let friends buy and hold", I figure I'm out of step!! :D

But, since I'm also in the top 1/3 of tracked accounts (just barely), and us just coming out of the type of volatility that SHOULD produce better returns for the traders, I thought I'd stick around to be a thorn in some sides for a little while. :embarrest:

I'll let my name fall into the category of "Where are they now" with the next warning. Life is getting too complex to even PRETEND I'm following my TSP account on a daily basis anymore.

The L funds will adequately serve as reminders to everyone that you don't have to trade to profit. :p
 
My motto is: Friends do let friends buy and hold. It takes a lot more brain power and creativity to stay long than it does to play bunny hop and cut and run. That's never been my style. Think longer term and be right and sit tight.
 
My motto is: Friends do let friends buy and hold. It takes a lot more brain power and creativity to stay long than it does to play bunny hop and cut and run. That's never been my style. Think longer term and be right and sit tight.

Oh, I don't know that I'd go that far. Some here have proven that they CAN play the market and come out ahead. The top 5 or 10% of TSPTalk members might fit into that category....although I was closely watching the Rokid "Long Term Tally" to really confirm that.

But what I really worry about is the large group of people here who are currently at a negative value, the larger group that are BELOW the G-Fund for annual return, and the MUCH larger group behind the L funds. I don't think they are being well served by the advice given here.

Believe me when I say I'm not trying to start a fight here....Honestly.

Fact of the matter is that it takes a lot of WORK to be successful trading, and many just don't have the time, background, experience to do it. (And I most definitely include myself in that category).

I came here about 2 years ago with dreams of becoming an active trader. But I can honestly say I have no plans to follow through with that now. Thus my bowing out.

Keep looking for great returns....but Investor, know thyself. :)
 
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