The Big 3 - Bail out or Bust

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-(common sense still lives)

-Article by Cal Thomas-
General Motors made my first car. It was a 1955 two-tone Chevrolet with stick shift and black tires.

It had an AM radio and air-conditioning, if I hand-cranked the window down in summer. It came with bench seats, the better to have your date close to you. I bought it used (this was before cars were “pre-owned") in 1961. My Dad co-signed the $750 note, which I paid.


Those were the days when you could fill up for pocket change. Somewhere I have old Esso receipts that show a full tank of regular gas cost me $3 dollars.

Chevrolet, Buick, Pontiac and Cadillac were the mainstays of GM, as Fairlane, Crestline Skyliner, Falcon and later Galaxie were for Ford, some of which I would own as an adult. I would also own some Chrysler products, so I have contributed to the profits of all the “Big Three.”

Ford is fending for itself without a bailout from Washington, but GM and Chrysler have filed their restructuring proposals with the government to receive additional billions to keep them solvent.

On Tuesday, GM received the final $4 billion on a $13.4 billion federal commitment. Chrysler, also getting $4 billion, has already requested an additional $3 billion. The money is conditioned on GM and Chrysler coming up with comprehensive restructuring plans that will prove to the government that they have made “aggressive” progress since they pleaded with lawmakers last December for financial aid. Members of Congress told the company CEOs that everyone had to make sacrifices, including management, unions, suppliers, investors and bondholders.

Here’s a better idea: Let them die a slow death, with the emphasis on slow. Tell workers (management always seems to land on its feet) that they have a fixed amount of time to look for new jobs. Government will help them with training and education, but government cannot prop up companies that no longer make products people want to buy in large enough numbers for them to remain profitable.

There are many reasons the car companies are in trouble, all of which have been reported in the major media, but that is the past and it is way too late in the game to do much about guaranteed pensions and health care that ended up crippling GM, even after the company successfully negotiated with UAW members to decrease retirement benefits, which, honestly, is a little like quitting smoking after being diagnosed with lung cancer.

Some of the cars of my childhood are no more. Kaiser-Frazier was the biggest postwar challenger to the Big Three. Models included the 1949 Kaiser Custom Vagabond, the 1948 Frazer Manhattan four-door sedan, the Dragon sedans and Henry J coupes. In 1970, Kaiser, then known as the Kaiser Jeep Corporation, was sold to American Motors Corporation.

Other auto companies either went out of business or were bought. These included Packard (“ask the man who owns one”), Studebaker (“first by far with a postwar car”), and Hudson, which began making cars in 1909 and, like other automobile companies, in early 1942 was ordered by the U.S. government to stop making passenger cars and concentrate exclusively on fulfilling war contracts. In 1954, Hudson eventually merged with Nash-Kelvinator to become American Motors, a company that lasted in one form or another until 1987 when Chrysler gobbled it up.

None of these companies (and many more before them and after with names such as Tucker, DeLorean and Duesenberg) received government bailouts. If they couldn’t sell their products at a profit, they either sold out, or went bust. People who worked for them found other jobs. No one starved to death.

Americans have benefited from capitalism. Our government should not be undermining an economic system that has produced more prosperity for its citizens than any nation on earth. It cannot forever prop up companies that make products not enough people wish to buy. If a growing number of people prefer cars not produced by GM and Chrysler, how will a government rescue plan make them more likely to buy them?

The “going out of business sale” sign should go up now. Taxpayers should not be expected to underwrite dying companies, unless we get a free car for our money. But that only happens on “Oprah.”

http://columbiadailyherald.com/articles/2009/02/24/opinion/03thomas.txt
 
Thanks Bud. That article brings back some fond memories. I drove a Falcon and a '71 Ford PU for years. About 260K miles on the truck before it finally went to rest. All were maintainable for the most part by a backyard mechanic. A far cry from the majority of products auto marketeers push today. If they are not going concerns let 'em join the ranks of others in the history books.

GM posts deep loss, auditors may question viability
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN2653343220090226


DETROIT (Reuters) - General Motors Corp posted a loss of nearly $31 billion on Thursday for 2008 and said its auditors were likely to cast doubt on its viability as it seeks an expanded federal bailout to stay afloat.
GM burned through $5 billion in the fourth quarter and ended the year reliant on the first $4 billion in loans from the U.S. Treasury. Quarterly revenue plunged by more than a third to $30.8 billion.

The automaker, which asked for up to $30 billion of U.S. government aid, also warned that its pension plans were underfunded by about $12.4 billion as of the end of 2008.

GM's loss for 2008 was the deepest among Detroit-based automakers as industry-wide auto sales dropped to 16-year lows. Ford lost $14.6 billion. Chrysler, controlled by private equity firm Cerberus Capital Management, lost $8 billion.

The grim results came as GM Chief Executive Rick Wagoner and other executives met with members of the autos task force headed by U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and White House economic adviser Larry Summers.

"They are in fact-gathering mode right now, and so we are here in order to respond to their questions," GM Chief Financial Officer Ray Young told reporters on a conference call from Washington ahead of the meeting on GM's aid request.

Shares of GM, which have lost almost 90 percent over the past year, were down 1.6 percent at $2.51 at midday.

GM said it could receive a "going concern" notice from auditors when it files its annual report for 2008 with U.S. securities regulators by the middle of March.
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Dear Employees and Suppliers,


Congress and the current Administration will soon determine whether to provide immediate support to the domestic auto industry to help it through one of the most difficult economic times in our nation's history. Your elected officials must hear from all of us now on why this support is critical to our continuing the progress we began prior to the global financial crisis.


As an employee or supplier, you have a lot at stake and continue to be one of our most effective and passionate voices.. I know GM can count on you to have your voice heard. Thank you for your urgent action and ongoing support.


Troy Clarke - President General Motors North America
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Response from: Gregory Knox, Pres. Knox Machinery Company, Franklin , Ohio


Gentlemen: In response to your request to contact legislators and ask for a bailout for the Big Three automakers please consider the following, and please pass my thoughts on to Troy Clark, President of General Motors North America.

Politicians and Management of the Big 3 are both infected with the same entitlement mentality that has spread like cancerous germs in UAW halls for the last countless decades, and whose plague is now sweeping this nation, awaiting our new "messiah", Pres-elect Obama, to wave his magic wand and make all our problems go away, while at the same time allowing our once great nation to keep "living the dream". Believe me folks, The dream is over!

This dream where we can ignore the consumer for years while management myopically focuses on its personal rewards packages at the same time that our factories have been filled with the worlds most overpaid, arrogant, ignorant and laziest entitlement minded "laborers" without paying the price for these atrocities. This dream where you still think the masses will line up to buy our products for ever and ever.

Don't even think about telling me I'm wrong. Don't accuse me of not knowing of what I speak. I have called on Ford, GM, Chrysler, TRW, Delphi, Kelsey Hayes, American Axle and countless other automotive OEM's throughout the Midwest during the past 30 years and what I've seen over those years in these union shops can only be described as disgusting.

Troy Clarke, President of General Motors North America, states: "There is widespread sentiment throughout this country, and our government, and especially via the news media, that the current crisis is completely the result of bad management which it certainly is not."

You're right Mr. Clarke, it's not JUST management.

How about the electricians who walk around the plants like lords in feudal times, making people wait on them for countless hours while they drag ass so they can come in on the weekend and make double and triple time for a job they easily could have done within their normal 40 hour work week?

How about the line workers who threaten newbies with all kinds of scare tactics for putting out too many parts on a shift and for being too productive?

(We certainly must not expose those lazy bums who have been getting overpaid for decades for their horrific underproduction, must we?!?)

Do you folks really not know about this stuff?!? How about this great sentiment abridged from Mr. Clarke's sad plea: "over the last few years, we have closed the quality and efficiency gaps with our competitors." What the hell has Detroit been doing for the last 40 years?!? Did we really JUST wake up to the gaps in quality and efficiency between us and them?

The K-car vs. The Accord? The Pinto vs. The Civic?!?

Do I need to go on? What a joke!

We are living through the inevitable outcome of the actions of the United States auto industry for decades. It's time to pay for your sins, Detroit .

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
.............click link to read the entire letter. (text exceded board limits)

Gregory J. Knox, President Knox Machinery, Inc. Franklin , Ohio45005
 
Sadly, I must say bust. Thanks for the posting, BN1 - what a read that was!

I bought my first car in '86 ('73 Plymouth Satellite) for $1,000 cash, from a private seller; coming from a "Chrysler" family, whose cars were the object of both rust and repair, I was too pragmatic to further the family trend of waste and ignorance, so I bought a 1984 Honda Accord hatchback for $2400 in '89. I drove it for a couple of years, put a ton of miles on it, and was rear ended in '89 by a Dodge 3/4 ton pickup which totaled it. State Farm handed me a check for $2350...I never looked at Detroit since.

Four ('85, '88, '89, and '98) Accords later, and now thanks to Congress' stimulus package and the sales tax rebate on new autos, combined with aggressive pricing and rebates, I'm being wooed to purchase two new autos to replace my '94 Toyota Pickup (total strangers typically walk up and ask me to sell it to them) and the wife's '98 Accord (selling it to our eldest at 1/2 of market value). Almost jumped on an '08 Tundra (5K rebate!), but $5+ gas will be here soon enough...decisions, decisions. Prius? Odyssey? Corolla? Higlander? Accord? Tacoma? I'm going to do my part to neutralize the efforts of the Detroit big three's finest whining welfare recipients. Their "pay me now AND pay me later" attitude is simply disgusting...

Dear Employees and Suppliers,

Congress and the current Administration will soon determine whether to provide immediate support to the domestic auto industry to help it through one of the most difficult economic times in our nation's history. Your elected officials must hear from all of us now on why this support is critical to our continuing the progress we began prior to the global financial crisis.

We are living through the inevitable outcome of the actions of the United States auto industry for decades. It's time to pay for your sins, Detroit .
 
Setting the PR stage for another bailout.:(


http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKTRE52S0XT20090329

GM CEO forced out as U.S. readies autos aid
Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:20am BST
By John Crawley and Kevin Krolicki

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - General Motors Chief Executive Rick Wagoner resigned under pressure from the Obama administration on Sunday as the government prepared to announce a second bailout for the company and its smaller rival Chrysler.

Wagoner, a career GM executive and CEO since 2000, is stepping down as the top U.S. automaker struggles with a recession-fuelled sales implosion that has pushed GM and many of its suppliers and dealers to the brink of failure.

"For them to change captains right in the middle of the rapids is not something GM would have done, but now (President Barack) Obama or (Treasury Secretary Timothy) Geithner can say, we've asked them to make the ultimate sacrifice," said Aaron Bragman, an analyst with IHS Global Insight.

University of Maryland economist Peter Morici, a one-time critic of Wagoner who had called for him to resign but now believes he had "started to get it," said the administration has a "PR problem" regarding unpopular corporate bailouts.

"They are bailing out just about anybody that shows up and says they need cash. The public has grown weary of it and instead of throwing a banker to the wolves they have decided to throw Wagoner to the wolves," Morici said.

GM would not confirm the decision. A White House official, who spoke anonymously because the resignation had not been announced, said it was done at the request of the administration.

NO WORD ON SUCCESSOR
Fritz Henderson, GM's chief operating officer, is the No. 2 executive at the automaker and widely considered to the leading internal candidate as Wagoner's successor.

Obama last week cited mismanagement "over the years" for some of the auto industry's severe financial problems, a point that stung Wagoner since his counterparts at Ford Motor, Alan Mulally, and Chrysler, Bob Nardelli, are relative newcomers brought in from outside the industry.

GM has lost about $82 billion (57 billion pounds) since 2005 when its problems began to mount in the U.S. market. GM has lost about 95 percent of its value since Wagoner took over as CEO.

Wagoner was in Washington on Friday to meet with the White House-appointed task force on auto restructuring. Obama is expected to announce that panel's recommendations on Monday.

Together, GM and Chrysler have asked for another $22 billion in government loans to ride out the weakest market for new cars in almost 30 years. Ford, which is also struggling, is not seeking federal help.

Obama said earlier Sunday that GM and Chrysler have not done enough to save themselves since receiving a $17.4 billion bailout in December.
"They're not there yet," Obama said in a taped interview on the CBS-TV news program "Face The Nation."

GM and Chrysler have run through most of the initial bailout and are at risk of bankruptcy without immediate help.

Chrysler, which is also pushing to complete a tie-up with Italy's Fiat, has said it needs additional funding as soon as Tuesday to avoid a cash crisis.

But neither automaker has finished the cost-cutting overhaul dictated by the terms of the auto industry bailout launched by the Bush administration that set a deadline of March 31 for determining whether the companies can be saved.

Analysts say that presents a dilemma for the Obama administration. GM and Chrysler employ almost 160,000 U.S. workers and allowing the automakers to fail would cause widespread hardship, especially in the industrial-belt Midwest, at a time when the economy remains mired in recession.

As confidence has grown that the White House will not push the car companies into bankruptcy, it has also become more difficult to clinch cost-saving deals both GM and Chrysler need to reach with creditors and the United Auto Workers union.

Obama said the automakers had more work to do to win concessions from creditors, labour and other groups.

"We think we can have a successful U.S. auto industry. But it's got to be one that's realistically designed to weather this storm," Obama said, stressing that all parties must sacrifice.

GM and Chrysler have won pending contract concessions from the United Auto Workers intended to bring factory labour costs in line with those of Japanese automakers led by Toyota Motor that have operations in the United States.

But GM and Chrysler have failed to meet other targets set for them by the government in December. In particular, talks intended to cut debt at both companies have failed to produce results over the past six weeks.
 
Back to article BN1 posted - #1 in this thread... the question remains.

Last week, for my own curiosity, I stopped at a Buick/GMC truck dealership in Columbia, TN. I'd been hearing tall tales about prices on new pick-ups being slashed to the bone. I test drove a moderately-loaded GMC Sierra SLE extended-cab pickup with a window sticker price of about $33K. Spent about an hour talking with the salesman. I didn't buy one, but the best price he offered was $25K and change. Not too bad for an hour of casual negotiating, but nothing like the give-away prices I had heard the rumors about. Later that day, I talked to a local "insider" friend in the auto business who said that the dealership I visited only sold 3 vehicles last month and only 2 the month before. Before the bail-out $h!t hit the fan, they averaged 20 to 25 a month. He also said that recently they had fired the assistant sales manager, laid-off several people in the shop and the regular mechanics were having to take up the slack by doing clean-up and detailing work in the body shop. Also, the sales staff was cut and those left were put on straight commission. No sale, no pay. That dealership is about as old as I am, but I don't see how they could stay in business much longer at this rate. I plan to check back there again in a week or so to see if their "best price" has dropped any. :cheesy:

Another example of bad news:
A Nashville Dodge dealership was padlocked recently because of unpaid taxes owed to the state.
The owner is crying FOUL and saying that the non-payment of taxes was an "oversight". Sound familiar? :suspicious:
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090321/BUSINESS01/903210340/1003/NEWS01
 
Budnipper-

I can get you a window-sticker 31K extended cab Silverado, V8 flexfuel, trailer package, etc. for about 22K. But you have to take it this week.

How many would you like?
 
Budnipper-

I can get you a window-sticker 31K extended cab Silverado, V8 flexfuel, trailer package, etc. for about 22K. But you have to take it this week.
How many would you like?
HA! Many a salesmen have blew a sale to me with that line. What's so special about "this week"?:suspicious:
But your quoted price is in my ballpark. Since my test drive, I've read that a 6-speed automatic transmission has been added as an option since the 2009 model was first offered.
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More GM workers laid off as gov't deadlines loom
1,600 workers getting laid off as GM reveals $2.8M in lobbying costs, gov't deadlines loom
Tom Krisher, AP Auto Writer
Monday April 20, 2009, 6:26 pm EDT

DETROIT (AP) -- General Motors Corp. started firing 1,600 white-collar workers Monday, continuing its effort to slash costs and qualify for more government loans on the same day it revealed it spent $2.8 million in the first three months of this year to lobby federal lawmakers.

Meanwhile, Fiat's CEO left Italy to resume critical talks on an alliance with Chrysler LLC, as deadlines draw closer for GM and Chrysler to finish their restructuring plans.

Both automakers are living on a combined $17.4 billion in government loans and have said they'll need more money to survive. Chrysler must cut its debt and its labor costs and forge an alliance with Fiat Group SpA by April 30, or President Barack Obama says Chrysler won't get any more help.

If GM can swap much of its debt for stock and get concessions from the UAW and Canadian Auto Workers by June 1, the government says it will provide more loans to keep the company going. Bankruptcy financing also is possible if the company determines Chapter 11 is its best bet to achieve the cuts it needs.

GM's layoffs this week bring the automaker close to its goal announced in February to cut 3,400 U.S. salaried positions, spokesman Tom Wilkinson said. GM has about 29,000 salaried workers in the U.S.

The company has thousands of workers at several facilities in Ohio, including a major assembly complex in Lordstown, near Youngstown. The factories to be closed have not yet been identified.

"In these unprecedented times, GM is reinventing every aspect of our business, including our organizational size and structure, to create a lean and agile company," GM North America President Troy Clarke said Monday in an e-mail to employees obtained by The Associated Press.

Meanwhile, GM said in a government filing that it spent $2.8 million in the first quarter lobbying the U.S. government on a range of issues, including the economic stimulus package, and environmental, consumer safety and health issues.

"We're a part of arguably one of the most regulated industries and we provide a voice in complex policy discussions," GM spokesman Greg Martin said.

GM's lobbying costs fell 15 percent from the $3.3 million it spent in the fourth quarter of 2008, but they rose from the $2.7 million GM spent in the third quarter.

Chrysler and its parent company Cerberus Capital Management LP together spent just $550,000 lobbying during the first three months of this year, according to government filings. That's down more than 75 percent from what the two spent during the last three months of 2008.

GM has said it will eliminate 47,000 jobs worldwide by the end of 2009, but the cuts may go even deeper as the company moves toward its deadline. CEO Fritz Henderson has said the automaker will close more factories beyond five announced in February. The factories to be closed have not yet been identified.

"There is no question, as we look at our revised plan to go deeper and go faster in our operational restructuring, there will be further reductions in manpower, people, that are going to affect communities, affect plants and people, both on hourly and the salaried side of the business," Henderson told reporters Friday.

For GM to qualify for more government aid, the UAW must agree to take stock for part of the roughly $20 billion that GM owes to a union-run trust that will cover retiree health care costs starting next year. The UAW and CAW also must agree to cut labor costs.

GM must also persuade the holders of $28 billion in GM bonds to take stock in exchange for part of the debt.

For Chrysler, the next few days could be critical. Fiat CEO Sergio Marchionne arrived in the U.S. Monday to try and finish alliance talks with just over a week to go. The companies are discussing a deal that would give Fiat a 20 percent stake in the Auburn Hills, Mich., automaker in exchange for Fiat's small-car technology.

The CAW was scheduled to resume negotiations with Chrysler on Monday night, and CAW President Ken Lewenza seemed to soften his stance against deviating from a deal inked last month with GM.

Lewenza said the situation is "shifting enormously" and he's still waiting to see the outcome of negotiations between Chrysler and the UAW.

Meanwhile, the UAW told members and supporters in a mass e-mail Monday to contact the White House and "insist that workers and retirees must be treated in a fair and equitable manner in any restructuring plans."

"We need President Obama and his auto task force to stand up for the interests of workers and retirees in these restructuring negotiations," the e-mail said. "Please call or e-mail President Obama right away on this critically important issue."

White House spokeswoman Amy Brundage said in an e-mail that the auto task force "will continue to have an open door through this process and will continue to hear the views of all the stakeholders involved."

Although the backing of the UAW and other unions was key to President Barack Obama's election last fall, he nonetheless has called on the union to accept deeper concessions so the Detroit Three can better stand up to the foreign competition. Japanese and European automakers generally have lower labor costs and a nonunion work force at their U.S. facilities.

Associated Press Writers Dan Strumpf in New York, Stephen Manning and Julie Hirschfeld Davis in Washington, and Rob Gillies in Toronto contributed to this report.
 
HA! Many a salesmen have blew a sale to me with that line. What's so special about "this week"?:suspicious:
But your quoted price is in my ballpark. Since my test drive, I've read that a 6-speed automatic transmission has been added as an option since the 2009 model was first offered.

What was so special about "this week", twp weeks ago, is that you could have still gotten one then.

Can't now. Too late. GM is going down, and they are taking the deals with them into bankruptcy.

Sorry- too late now.

by the way- you should pass on the six-speed transmission. It doesn't really add anything at all to the value- and doesn't help MPG or anything either.
 
"The 3 P's of Motordom" .... where did they go?

Reflecting a bit this evening. My great grandfather worked for Pierce-Arrow for many years. Beautiful cars they were. The pride of Buffalo, NY.

Pierce-Arrow: The great depression was their death knell and they finally went insolvent in the late '30's.

Peerless: Built in Cleveland,OH. Beauties also. Exited the automobile business in the early '30's

Packard: Struggled along until the late fifties. Was that a Packard or a studebaker?:)

Ask most kids running the roads these days if they know the 3 P's of Motordom - most all will be stumped. I must be gettin' aged!
 
I refuse to morn the impending death of GM. In 1996 I had the misfortune of buying a 1995 Chevy Cavalier. I would rather have had a 1970 Pinto than that P.O.S.! GM simply made inferior cars and the autoworkers were too fat from their high pay and benefits to care enough to make a quality product! I will never purchase a GM vehicle made after 1986 again!

GOODBYE GM! GOOD RIDDANCE!

Not that I'm bitter or anything.:toung:
 
I refuse to morn the impending death of GM. In 1996 I had the misfortune of buying a 1995 Chevy Cavalier. I would rather have had a 1970 Pinto than that P.O.S.! GM simply made inferior cars and the autoworkers were too fat from their high pay and benefits to care enough to make a quality product! I will never purchase a GM vehicle made after 1986 again!

GOODBYE GM! GOOD RIDDANCE!

Not that I'm bitter or anything.:toung:
Too bad you have this narrow minded mentality..that is probably a lot of the reason with people like you that has caused the implosion of our US auto industry..granted, a few of your reasons I feel are sound..especially about the high paid workers..but you can blame unions for that mostly..

Anyway, GM products have improved greatly over the last 10 years or so..trying to keep up the quality end competeing with the Japanense/Asian models...You can't fairly compare GM of today with what GM was doing in the 80's and 90's...


On that note, check this out...
http://heavens-gates.com/usworkers/
 
Wait til CM gets a solid footing with Barney as CFO. This is what we get to look forward to. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAqPMJFaEdY



I'll hold on to my '31 Ford PU thanks - at least stupid me can fix it when it breaks down. It has an L4 engine with more horses than the CM car of the future and can even be converted to run on 'shiine.
 
TH..who or what is CM?:confused:


AP – FILE - In this Feb. 19, 2009
DETROIT – General Motors Corp. is planning to temporarily close most of its U.S. factories for up to nine weeks this summer because of slumping sales and growing inventories of unsold vehicles, three people briefed on the plan said Wednesday. Analysts say the company could be seeing sales decline because of talk about a potential bankruptcy.

The exact dates of the closures are not known, but the people said they will occur around the normal two-week shutdown in July when changes are made from one model year to the next. None of the people wanted to be identified because workers have not yet been told of the shutdowns.

GM spokesman Chris Lee would not comment other than to say the company notifies employees before making any production cuts public.

One of the people briefed on the plan said details are still being worked out. Some of the closings could be staggered between mid-May and the end of July, but the exact number of plants to be idled has not yet been determined.

Another person said a few plants that make more popular models could remain open for part of the shutdown period, but at reduced assembly line speeds.

Thousands of workers could be laid off but would still get most of their pay because their United Auto Workers union contract requires the company to make up much of the difference between state unemployment benefits and their wages. UAW officials at several factories said they have meetings scheduled Thursday and Friday with plant managers and GM human resource officials to discuss production changes.

The shutdown could be catastrophic to many auto parts suppliers that already are near bankruptcy due to previous production cuts. During the shutdown, suppliers couldn't ship parts to GM and would lose critical revenue.

"It's one of those things we've been dreading for a long time," said Jim Gillette, director of financial services at auto-industry consultant CSM Worldwide in Grand Rapids. "It's as bad as its ever been."

He said that many suppliers are making employee cuts or forcing workers to take furloughs to reduce operating expenditures.

GM is living on $13.4 billion in government loans and faces a June 1 deadline to cut its debt, reduce labor costs and take other restructuring steps. If it doesn't meet the deadline, the company's CEO has said it will enter Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

The Treasury Department declined to comment on any effect the plant shutdowns might have on GM's restructuring plans.

Separately Wednesday, GM announced that it may miss a $1 billion bond payment also due June 1 if its debt-for-equity exchange is still in progress by then. GM also could go into bankruptcy protection, which could make the company miss the payment as well.

The company plans to make the exchange offer soon to bondholders, perhaps as early as next week. GM has $28 billion in unsecured bond debt and is under government pressure to reduce that to solidify its balance sheet.

GM's sales were down 49 percent in the first quarter compared with the same period last year, and GM had a 123-day supply of cars and trucks at the end of March, according to Ward's AutoInfoBank. That's down from 162 days worth in January.

But as of March 31, the automaker had a more than six-month supply of several models including the Pontiac G5 compact and Chevrolet Silverado hybrid pickup truck. The lengthy shutdown likely means that GM doesn't see its sales rebounding anytime soon, said Tom Libby, an independent Detroit-area auto industry analyst.

"They must be forecasting a sales level that is low enough between now and the summer that they see their inventories building," he said. "It's sort of an ominous comment on what they see for the industry."

Libby also suggested that the company's sales may be declining because customers are concerned about the automaker possibly filing for bankruptcy protection.

GM CEO Fritz Henderson has said the company would prefer to restructure outside of court, but it is preparing for a prearranged bankruptcy as well as one in which good assets would be separated from underperforming ones.

"Just using the word bankruptcy, their (market) share is down a lot just because of this talk," Libby said. "They may be counting on a further decline."

The plant closures add to the onslaught of bad news coming out of GM, said John Clark, president of Avenue Chevrolet, a dealership in Batavia, Ill., near Chicago.

"Henderson making statements about bankruptcy sure doesn't help his cause, and all of the sudden we have this," he said. "I've been getting calls from customers about warranties. I can't see this as a positive move."

The government has said it would guarantee GM and Chrysler warranties as the companies restructure.

Libby did say GM should be applauded for not building too many vehicles and then having to spend big on rebates and other incentives to move them, something the Detroit Three have been guilty of in the past.

Other GM dealers said a shutdown of up to nine weeks is jarring, but not unexpected given the sales slump.

"Nine weeks seems like an awful long time, but the way business is, not an awful lot of cars are being sold anyway," said George Tasker, fleet manager at Martin Chevrolet in Torrance, Calif.

Tasker said the move wouldn't affect business, as dealers would "get together and trade more easily" to find the exact car a customer wanted.

Nearly all automakers with U.S. factories have closed plants or cut production to deal with the auto sales slump. Earlier this year, GM temporarily closed 20 factories across North America due to weak sales, some for the entire month of January. Chrysler LLC, also subsisting on government loans, closed all 30 of its manufacturing plants for a month in January to counter the auto sales downturn.

Ford Motor Co. also shut down 10 North American assembly plants for an extra week in January, and both Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co. have cut production.
 
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