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UPDATE at 8:26 PM EDT: Several major stock markets in Asia are closed Monday, but where there’s trading there are losses. Australian stocks were under early pressure, with financials taking a pounding. The benchmark S&P/ASX 200 was down more than 1%; shares of investment bank Macquarie Group tumbled more than 9%.
UPDATE at 8:37 PM EDT: The Journal, citing bankers, reports that the Federal Reserve will expand its lending facilities, with the central bank expected to accept a wider range of collateral, including equities, for short-term loans. The moves are expected to be temporary.

UPDATE at 8:44 PM EDT: Bank of America has reached a deal to buy Merrill Lynch for $29 a share, sources tell the Journal. The boards of both companies have approved the deal.

WTH!!!! Is that how BAC is buying MER????? That explains the huge premium at $29/share...

Equities as collateral. In this market? I sure hope it's a very high ratio in favor of the Fed's. There goes more of our tax dollars if/when this market finally crashes! Crash we will. As 12 would say, bookmark this post. I'm calling a crash, soon!
 
Equities as collateral. In this market? I sure hope it's a very high ratio in favor of the Fed's. There goes more of our tax dollars if/when this market finally crashes! Crash we will. As 12 would say, bookmark this post. I'm calling a crash, soon!

ATCJeff,

If I understand this correctly (and I might have this all wrong), BAC buys MER for $29. MER was at $17. BAC takes MER equity to Fed discount window. BAC's net cost for acquiring MER = 29-17 = $12/share?
 
ATCJeff,

If I understand this correctly (and I might have this all wrong), BAC buys MER for $29. MER was at $17. BAC takes MER equity to Fed discount window. BAC's net cost for acquiring MER = 29-17 = $12/share?

This is with fed backings.....BAC is paying a premium to save the financial industry as a whole IMO . Things are really awful. If MER goes , so does BAC and others.

with no deal for Lehman, Merrill and the other investment firms would have been hit with a "run on the bank," as hedge funds and other clients withdraw funds and banks become reluctant to lend to them. Many of the investment banks rely on short-term loans to finance their day-to-day operations.

The cost of insuring financial firms' debt from default has been soaring. A rise in the cost of the insurance, known as credit default swaps, indicates debt holders believe there is a greater chance of default by the financial companies. Especially over the past week, those insurance costs have been increasing rapidly as more debt holders fear companies like Lehman Brothers and Washington Mutual Inc. could collapse and not be able to repay their debt.

BAC has more accounts then any other bank. It is in their best inyerest to save MER. They have the backing of all the best financial minds in the business.......BOTTOM LINE, THIS HAS TO BE DONE.

Now its time to put my money to work. Good time to be 99% in cash. :suspicious:
 
ATCJeff,

If I understand this correctly (and I might have this all wrong), BAC buys MER for $29. MER was at $17. BAC takes MER equity to Fed discount window. BAC's net cost for acquiring MER = 29-17 = $12/share?

I'm checking/reading. May not have a answer until tomorrow. Something just seems wrong. MER books can't be that good. They would not have sold.
 
Equities as collateral. In this market? I sure hope it's a very high ratio in favor of the Fed's. There goes more of our tax dollars if/when this market finally crashes! Crash we will. As 12 would say, bookmark this post. I'm calling a crash, soon!

Make it crash after October 1st! :nuts:
 
I'm checking/reading. May not have a answer until tomorrow. Something just seems wrong. MER books can't be that good. They would not have sold.

I was reading a NY times article and somewhere in there it said something to the effect that with the purchase of MER, BAC does not meet capital requirements?? Then, when I went back later to cite it, IT WAS NOT THERE??? I swear it was that article...but I could be wrong. It's almost as if it were removed...

There will be all kinds of ripple effects.
 
I was reading a NY times article and somewhere in there it said something to the effect that with the purchase of MER, BAC does not meet capital requirements?? Then, when I went back later to cite it, IT WAS NOT THERE??? I swear it was that article...but I could be wrong. It's almost as if it were removed...

There will be all kinds of ripple effects.

Exactly, BAC will now have to deal with MER's garbage. Also, BAC already has a hand in CFC. We all know CFC is a POS.
 
Your not wrong...I saw the article too describing that if BAC bought Merrill...then they didn't have enough capital to buy Lehman. Something smells very bad in Denmark. This has all the making of strike three+ (Lehman, Merrill, AIG, Yen Carrytrade Unwind) stock market "Monday" crash. Dangerous thin ice the market is on. Whatever the Fed does this time, the train has already been set in motion. Major sell off this week.

I was thinking S&P 1160 for short term rally point...then...down to 1120 for longer term recovery rally. My friend say he is thinking Dow 10500. I'm inclined to think that is to low...but in the last few months, I've been more inclined to consider a much lower point.
 
Your not wrong...I saw the article too describing that if BAC bought Merrill...then they didn't have enough capital to buy Lehman. Something smells very bad in Denmark. This has all the making of strike three+ (Lehman, Merrill, AIG, Yen Carrytrade Unwind) stock market "Monday" crash. Dangerous thin ice the market is on. Whatever the Fed does this time, the train has already been set in motion. Major sell off this week.

I was thinking S&P 1160 for short term rally point...then...down to 1120 for longer term recovery rally. My friend say he is thinking Dow 10500. I'm inclined to think that is to low...but in the last few months, I've been more inclined to consider a much lower point.

Fexlixthecat,
I'm glad to hear your view on this.

It seems like only yesterday your view was the FED had done everything right (that we hit the bottom and it can only go up). But then at THAT MOMENT both of us thought it was simply a "correction wave" and had every reason to expect better things to follow.

10,500 may appear too low - and the government/FED will do everything possible to settle things by the standard 'smoke and mirrors' tactics of the past: But the bottom line is a TRUE BEAR will not easily be defeated once he emerges and he is just emerging.
 
Rate cut coming!

Briefing.com: Fed funds futures rally in the wake of the financial market turmoil, now suggesting there is a strong possibility of a rate cut on Wednesday. Futures suggest a 74% of a 25 basis point cut to 1.75%, and a 26% chance of no change.
 
I was reading a NY times article and somewhere in there it said something to the effect that with the purchase of MER, BAC does not meet capital requirements?? Then, when I went back later to cite it, IT WAS NOT THERE??? I swear it was that article...but I could be wrong. It's almost as if it were removed...

There will be all kinds of ripple effects.

The MEDIA is even more powerful than the MARKETS.

Censorship and CONTROL or is there the possibility of FREE SPEECH - that is the question??? Or what is actually allowed to dominate as the news that carries the public and helps us form our views of various individuals, corporations, policies.

This will likely be one of the hardest times in history because the facts are so easy to retrieve and although the myth is easy to buy into and believe - the FACTS CAN NOT BE IGNORED.
 
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